# Should Sharia Law have any influence in the Western world? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 4, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165 "2012-07-04T01:02:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/21 "2012-07-04T01:53:17Z")
> [@the\_apples\_fell](#): > > And no, it stated “The judge then refused to issue a restraining order against the man, leaving the woman vulnerable to repeated rape attempts with no legal protection of any kind.” That was the trial decision, overturned on appeal, as your own cite states. So the law in New Jersey is “No.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/22 "2012-07-04T02:07:49Z")
> [@the\_apples\_fell](#): > > But the question is “SHOULD” Sharia Law ever take precedence. Even if it hasn’t, should it be able to? You’re moving the goalposts - that wasn’t the premiss of your OP, which asserted that individuals had not been prosecuted - a clear assertion of fact. Now that you’ve not been able to provide a case in support of that premiss, you’re moving the debate to “Should”. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/23 "2012-07-04T02:11:11Z")
> [@the\_apples\_fell](#): > > No. But if Sharia Law is applicable here in the US, as some think it should be, then it would give people to whom it concerns the ability to get away with things that US law prohibits on the grounds of their faith. What matters is what the law _is_, not what “some think it should be.” unless you are one of those advocating for such a change, I wouldn’t worry about it. Rereading what you wrote, quoted above, I’m more confused. If Sheria Law was passed in the US, then people wouldnt be “getting away” with things that are illegal, those things would now be legal. Not going to happen, of course, but it solves your problem. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/24 "2012-07-04T02:35:52Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > You’re moving the goalposts - that wasn’t the premiss of your OP, which asserted that individuals had not been prosecuted - a clear assertion of fact. Now that you’ve not been able to provide a case in support of that premiss, you’re moving the debate to “Should”. I’m so glad I found this place! even though I can’t post LOL cats…😛 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/25 "2012-07-04T02:41:26Z")
Since this poll and thread are based on a false premise, i’m just gonna go ahead and vote “yes” now, and further demand that the OP be executed for apostasy. ---
**Author:** ![MrDurden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@MrDurden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/26 "2012-07-04T02:44:05Z")
Still wondering where that case of some guy beating his wife that gets dismissed because of Sharia law is… anyone, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/27 "2012-07-04T02:46:44Z")
[QUOTE=the apples fell] And no, it stated “The judge then refused to issue a restraining order against the man, leaving the woman vulnerable to repeated rape attempts with no legal protection of any kind.” [/QUOTE] Plus, there is nothing in that story which supports the underlined portion of the statement: namely, that the police and the criminal law of assault and rape would not be available. A civil decision on an application for a restraining order does not affect the prosecution of the criminal law. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/28 "2012-07-04T02:50:41Z")
So, in other words, “There are no instances in which male Muslim immigrants in the US have not been prosecuted by law for behavior considered illegal (beating one’s wife, for instance and other forms of domestic abuse) because in Islamic law, this is acceptable behavior for a Muslim male. But _should there be?!_” Answer: No. We done here now? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/29 "2012-07-04T02:58:42Z")
> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#): > > So, in other words, “There are no instances in which male Muslim immigrants in the US have not been prosecuted by law for behavior considered illegal (beating one’s wife, for instance and other forms of domestic abuse) because in Islamic law, this is acceptable behavior for a Muslim male. But _should there be?!_” > > Answer: No. > > We done here now? Next up-Should merry-go-round operators be allowed to slaughter chickens while the ride is in motion? I don’t actually have a cite for this happening, but _should_ they? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/30 "2012-07-04T04:07:08Z")
Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala! That’s either the sound of me rejoicing in the Constitution being rendered obsolete by Sharia law, or me sticking my fingers in my ears and not wanting any part of this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/31 "2012-07-04T04:40:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Next up-Should merry-go-round operators be allowed to slaughter chickens while the ride is in motion? I don’t actually have a cite for this happening, but _should_ they? Well this raises questions. Is the operator a Muslim? Are their state or federal laws governing chicken slaughtering on merry-go-rounds? I don’t think you should throw questions like that out there without specifics. I mean, the real question is, _should_ you? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/32 "2012-07-04T04:50:43Z")
All religious law is barbaric. None of it applies to a decent society. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/33 "2012-07-04T05:23:18Z")
Quick someone pass a law to combat this non-existent problem. Oh right thanks Kansas you saves us all… ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/34 "2012-07-04T05:45:04Z")
What does Sharia Law have to say about multiple repeated spelling mistakes on internet message board postings? I might be able to get on board if the answer is the right one. ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/35 "2012-07-04T06:33:05Z")
Why is Sharia such a big deal, when Beth Din and Ecclesiastical Courts are essentially the same things with the same power over the law of the state (i.e. none.)? Should Beth Din take precedence? Should the Ecclesiastical Courts? Should any religious court? Why limit the question to Sharia? Because Islam is scary? ---
**Author:** ![greenslime1951](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9bcb4/32.png) [@greenslime1951](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greenslime1951)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165/36 "2012-07-04T06:35:29Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > What does Sharia Law have to say about multiple repeated spelling mistakes on internet message board postings? I might be able to get on board if the answer is the right one. It’s my understanding that there are only three punishments under Sharia law: 1. Someone cuts off your hand. 2. Someone rapes your sister. 3. A whole bunch of people stone you to death. Obviously, #3 should apply, as this is an internet _community_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-sharia-law-have-any-influence-in-the-western-world/627165.md?page=1)