# Should the democrats distance themselves from Hollywood? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 17, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268 "2018-06-17T17:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/41 "2018-06-18T12:16:59Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > To say this at a time when the Republicans are openly embracing somebody as vile and repugnant as Trump, is laughable. Pretty much. Any republican who is worried about democratic impropriety along the lines of “Fuck Trump” is pretty clearly being disingenuous or incredibly hypocritical, as if they cared about that level of impropriety, one would imagine they would not have voted for or continued to support the man accused of sexual assault 18 times who bragged about being able to grab women by the pussy and who paid hush money to a porn star he cheated on his wife with. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/42 "2018-06-18T13:05:34Z")
The Democrats can’t afford to distance themselves from Hollywood. Hollywood gives them too much money, attention, and propaganda support. It would be like the GOP abandoning the NRA. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/43 "2018-06-18T13:40:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The Democrats can’t afford to distance themselves from Hollywood. Hollywood gives them too much money, attention, and propaganda support. It would be like the GOP abandoning the NRA. > > Regards, > > Shodan Don’t forget the homophobes, misogonists, and bigots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/44 "2018-06-18T13:49:48Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I don’t think the Democrats distancing themselves from Hollywood would make a damn bit of difference to anything. > > OTOH, I’d really like celebrities to stop using their brief moments in front of the global media to hold forth on whatever’s on their minds, particularly if it’s nothing constructive. I’m torn between: “God forbid celebrities have opinions,” and “God forbid they share those opinions when someone is listening.” Or maybe it’s “God forbid anyone say anything that **Gyrate** doesn’t find ‘constructive’.” 😃 . ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/45 "2018-06-18T13:57:23Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I’m torn between: > > “God forbid celebrities have opinions,” and > > “God forbid they share those opinions when someone is listening.” > > Or maybe it’s “God forbid anyone say anything that **Gyrate** doesn’t find ‘constructive’.” > > 😃 > . How about “God forbid celebrities do the presenting jobs they’re up on stage to do and just read the damn prompters rather than interrupting the show to insert their own impromptu editorials”. They have plenty of other opportunities to talk to the press or express their views over social media. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/46 "2018-06-18T14:01:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Hollywood gives them too much money, attention, and propaganda support. It would be like the GOP abandoning the NRA. Or Trump abandoning Russia. Just ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/47 "2018-06-18T14:08:03Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Sodomy is probably a good bit more welcomed by the people on the other side of the aisle. Only Republicans practice sodomy. Democrats just have butt sex. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/48 "2018-06-18T14:08:35Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > If a conservative suggests that liberals should zig, then the sane course for liberals is always to zag. Conservative: Liberals ought to breathe air that contains oxygen… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/49 "2018-06-18T14:10:52Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Or Trump abandoning Russia. Just ain’t gonna happen. That analogy with Hollywood doesn’t really work. One is a vast, corrupt, ideologically rigid oligarchy seeking to extend its influence over the world, and the other is run by Putin. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/50 "2018-06-18T14:13:24Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Conservative: Liberals ought to breathe air that contains oxygen… Or maybe “whatever you do, Br’er Fox, don’t throw me into that briar patch!” Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/51 "2018-06-18T14:15:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This might actually be meaningful if you didn’t support someone who’s said far worse things about his political opponents, and been credibly accused of sexual assault (as well as bragging about sexual assaulting both adult and teenage women/girls), as President. **Further, Deniro and Hollywood are in no sense running any state, running the Democratic party, or likely to do so in any way whatsoever**. I will have to disagree with your last line. No, they dont “run” the party. But, they do do alot of fundraisers for the party and make appearances at conventions and stoop for candidates. For example Hillary had Beyonce headlining her rallies. [HERE](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-gets-support-from-hollywood-heres-whos-backing-her_us_55a926ace4b0896514d1202f) is an article discussing celebrities who either donated to democratic candidates or hosted fundraisers in their homes. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/52 "2018-06-18T14:17:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > How about “God forbid celebrities do the presenting jobs they’re up on stage to do and just read the damn prompters rather than interrupting the show to insert their own impromptu editorials”. They have plenty of other opportunities to talk to the press or express their views over social media. Better idea: make a movie about an issue they care about. Gotta admit this is what Micheal Moore did. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/53 "2018-06-18T14:29:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That analogy with Hollywood doesn’t really work. One is a vast, corrupt, ideologically rigid oligarchy seeking to extend its influence over the world, and the other is run by Putin. The main reason that it doesn’t work is that celebrities are bound by campaign finance laws, and Putin is not. According to [this](http://time.com/4084807/hollywood-political-donors-hillary-clinton/), Hollywood raised $5 million of the $1 billion spent by Clinton in the 2016 campaign. On the other hand, Trump personally made $50 million — [according to himself](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html) – by selling it to a Russian oligarch who is under “[sanctions not sanctions](http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/30/news/russian-oligarchs-treasury-trump/index.html)” for Russian election meddling, and was [arrested for murdering his business partner.](https://medium.com/@V7Monika6/russian-oligarch-dmitry-rybolovlev-accused-of-murder-a92acc229873) But maybe that’s just me, going on another witch hunt. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/54 "2018-06-18T15:22:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > How about “God forbid celebrities do the presenting jobs they’re up on stage to do and just read the damn prompters rather than interrupting the show to insert their own impromptu editorials”. They have plenty of other opportunities to talk to the press or express their views over social media. Isn’t that between them and their employers? . ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/55 "2018-06-18T15:32:36Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Conservative: Liberals ought to breathe air that contains oxygen… You’re crediting conservatives with way too much intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/56 "2018-06-18T15:38:15Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Isn’t that between them and their employers? > . It is. And I’m not starting a campaign to insist that they stop or getting my pet media to spread stories about how they are being disrespectful to the flag and veterans and puppies by doing so and secretly love illegal aliens. I just find it really fucking annoying. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/57 "2018-06-18T15:51:20Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Better idea: make a movie about an issue they care about. Gotta admit this is what Micheal Moore did. As a man who shares a first name with Mr. Moore, I implore you to learn how to spell “Michael.” Here’s a handy reference guide for you to consult on occasions when it gives you trouble: **M I C H A E L** Thank you for your attention to this matter. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/58 "2018-06-18T15:55:10Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Conservative: Liberals ought to breathe air that contains oxygen… > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > You’re crediting conservatives with way too much intelligence. _You’re_ both crediting radicals (of the reactionary persuasion) with being conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/59 "2018-06-18T17:35:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > _You’re_ both crediting radicals (of the reactionary persuasion) with being conservatives. As if there are actual conservatives in the Republican party anymore. They’ve all been purged by the fascists or they’re kowtowing to them out of fear. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268/60 "2018-06-18T18:30:37Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > _You’re_ both crediting radicals (of the reactionary persuasion) with being conservatives. Trump has up to 90% approval in the Republican party. And he’s not even close to the line. The rest of the party is arguably [crazier](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831). There is only one Republican Party. And it hasn’t changed in decades, except to become more overt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-democrats-distance-themselves-from-hollywood/816268.md?page=4)