# Should the NFL enact Affirmative Action (hire more white players) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 22, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913 "2016-01-22T22:01:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![NorthernStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c77e96/32.png) [@NorthernStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NorthernStar)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/141 "2016-02-01T11:08:26Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > In other countries, opportunity is substantially diminished, although when descendants from west african gene pools do find enough opportunity, they are overrepresented in exactly the same kind of athletic endeavors. Feel free to look around majority white nations which participate vigorously in the 100 yeard dash(for example) and take a peek at their Olympic hopefuls. It is interesting that the 100 m sprint - likely the simplest and most straightforward (no pun intended) of all athletics events - came up in this thread. If anything, the black sprinters are not merely “overrepresented” at the highest level, they have virtually monopolized it. The [IAAF all time list for men](http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/men/senior) lists 119 sprinters with a PB of 10.00 seconds or better. While at first glance the list seems to be dominated by Americans and Jamaicans, there are quite a few sprinters from various European, Caribbean and African countries. Still, I counted only six non-black athletes - and the 10.00 cutoff is very generous to them, since half of them have run exactly this fast. Christophe Lemaitre is the fastest (9.92) non-black sprinter, tied for 39th overall all time. The other five are Patrick Johnson (who is half Aboriginal), Marian Woronin (Poland) and three Asians - Ito (Japan), Su and Zhang (both China). Given that Lemaitre and Woronin, unlike many others on the list, both had the advantage of 2.0 m/s tailwind (maximum legal for record consideration and, according to [this site](http://www.brianmac.co.uk/sprints/altwind.htm), giving at least a 0.1 second advantage over still conditions), then, depending on how one defines “white”, one could theoretically argue that no white man, unlike numerous black sprinters, has ever broken the 10 second barrier. To the OP: no, it shouldn’t. Aside from the fact that I am not a fan of race based policies in general (including the Rooney Rule), I don’t think there is a bias against non-black players in the NFL that should warrant such a policy. If there exists a racial/ethnic bias in advising young players to develop skill sets for certain positions - and I think there may well be, given the stereotype of “traditionally black” positions - it happens much earlier in their careers. Mandating “white quotas” for the NFL in any shape of form will do little to compensate for that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/142 "2016-02-01T14:11:16Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > I take it you are hoping to reduce every situation worldwide to black and white 🙂 binary choices. It must be all genes or it must be all culture. No, I thought that was what you were doing… if I’m wrong, and you believe that culture plays a role, and outcomes aren’t solely determined by genetics, then I apologize. > [@](#): > > Give it up. No one buys that simplistic strawman, nor have I ever either promoted it or implied it. Nurturing and culture do play a role in outcomes, but what genes do is establish a ceiling for outcome despite maximum nurture. An individual homozygous for ACTN3 577X has a less than trivial chance of being a world class sprinter, and as I mentioned earlier, blacks of west african descent have a much lower chance of being 577XX. This is not a complete genetic story. But it’s a clear example where gene frequency variation by race for putatively important genes corresponds exactly with what we observe empirically. It’s not as if gene evidence is all over the place…with every passing year we find more and more evidence that genes influence success and that gene variants vary by frequency among self-identified race groups. The genetic science is not proceeding in the direction of a young earth creationist view where genes don’t evolved and where their has not been sufficient time for separation. > > You would be better served showing there is no genetic difference for key factors such as muscle types, bone strength, resistance to fracture, muscle mass and armspan between self-identified blacks, whites and asians at various sports for which those are advantageous. > > Have at it, and get back to me with the results of your research. Another dumb “creationist” jab – when are you going to drop that strawman? I’ve never said or implied that human genes haven’t or don’t evolve. There may well be, on average, genetic differences between various populations for some physical characteristics. I’m just not ready to conclude such broad, sweeping things like “black people are better sprinters” when different groups have dominated differing athletic categories at different times. I don’t believe that NOW is special – I think the same biases from the past may still be active, to varying degrees. And I don’t think the sprinting records tell us much – sure, most of the top sprinters are black (in the sociological grouping called “black” by most Americans), but most of them probably have European ancestry as well. Why would anyone be so ready to conclude, with certainty, that it’s just the African ancestry that is involved? It seems like there could be so many other explanations: the combination of African and European ancestry provides an advantage; something about the culture (diet as well as sports culture, among other things) of Caribbean islands provides an advantage; or a million other possibilities. In short, it’s entirely possible that there is some group of “great sprinting genes” that show up more often in some populations then others. But I’m not ready to conclude that this is so, with certainty, and I don’t see why anyone should. ---
**Author:** ![NorthernStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c77e96/32.png) [@NorthernStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NorthernStar)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/143 "2016-02-01T18:17:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m just not ready to conclude such broad, sweeping things like “black people are better sprinters” when different groups have dominated differing athletic categories at different times. I don’t believe that NOW is special – I think the same biases from the past may still be active, to varying degrees. They may be, but certainly the world as a whole, in terms of race and ethnic origin, is more “equal opportunity” now than it was in the 1960s or the 1930s. And, given present trends, it will likely be even more so, say, 30 years from now. What we have experienced so far is that the more we have dismantled systemic discrimination, the more extensive the non-white dominance in certain sports has become. > [@](#): > > And I don’t think the sprinting records tell us much – sure, most of the top sprinters are black (in the sociological grouping called “black” by most Americans), but most of them probably have European ancestry as well. Why would anyone be so ready to conclude, with certainty, that it’s just the African ancestry that is involved? Well, we are mostly splitting hairs here. If the “X” factor that makes one a top class sprinting talent is genetic in nature AND is more prevalent in a certain subgroup of black people, no matter how wide or small said subgroup is, then it is of little importance whether it is “purely African” or a very specific African/European combination. The real world outcome is the same either way. > [@](#): > > It seems like there could be so many other explanations: the combination of African and European ancestry provides an advantage; something about the culture (diet as well as sports culture, among other things) of Caribbean islands provides an advantage; or a million other possibilities. In short, it’s entirely possible that there is some group of “great sprinting genes” that show up more often in some populations then others. But I’m not ready to conclude that this is so, with certainty, and I don’t see why anyone should. But what could be this alleged unique culture that has led to an absolute dominance of blacks in speed/explosiveness sports and appears to be shared by blacks born and training in so many different countries and regions? In what way are black sprinters from US, France, Great Britain and Nigeria so similar that they have been frequently breaking the 10 second barrier in 100 metres dash since 1968, while white sprinters had to wait a whopping 42 years until Lemaitre became the first athlete of purely European descent to do it? The short sprint is perhaps the most accessible of all athletics events and has been among its most popular events for over a hundred years. Yet even Soviet Union and East Germany, all-time athletics superpowers in terms of Olympic medal count (including sprint events!) but virtually non-black countries, failed to ever produce a single athlete to run a sub-10 short sprint. I can understand (though not necessarily agree with) the reluctance to acknowledge the genetic factor and ancestry, if for no other reason than avoiding vindicating racists (“see, we always said there was _something_ innate about these people!..”), but even a purely statistical research suggests something interesting has been going on in the speed/explosiveness sports for several decades. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/144 "2016-02-01T18:28:47Z")
> [@NorthernStar](#): > > They may be, but certainly the world as a whole, in terms of race and ethnic origin, is more “equal opportunity” now than it was in the 1960s or the 1930s. And, given present trends, it will likely be even more so, say, 30 years from now. What we have experienced so far is that the more we have dismantled systemic discrimination, the more extensive the non-white dominance in certain sports has become. > Well, we are mostly splitting hairs here. If the “X” factor that makes one a top class sprinting talent is genetic in nature AND is more prevalent in a certain subgroup of black people, no matter how wide or small said subgroup is, then it is of little importance whether it is “purely African” or a very specific African/European combination. The real world outcome is the same either way. > But what could be this alleged unique culture that has led to an absolute dominance of blacks in speed/explosiveness sports and appears to be shared by blacks born and training in so many different countries and regions? In what way are black sprinters from US, France, Great Britain and Nigeria so similar that they have been frequently breaking the 10 second barrier in 100 metres dash since 1968, while white sprinters had to wait a whopping 42 years until Lemaitre became the first athlete of purely European descent to do it? The short sprint is perhaps the most accessible of all athletics events and has been among its most popular events for over a hundred years. Yet even Soviet Union and East Germany, all-time athletics superpowers in terms of Olympic medal count (including sprint events!) but virtually non-black countries, failed to ever produce a single athlete to run a sub-10 short sprint. > > I can understand (though not necessarily agree with) the reluctance to acknowledge the genetic factor and ancestry, if for no other reason than avoiding vindicating racists (“see, we always said there was _something_ innate about these people!..”), but even a purely statistical research suggests something interesting has been going on in the speed/explosiveness sports for several decades. The doublethink comes from the fear of eugenics. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/145 "2016-02-01T20:36:51Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Okay, maybe not. So segregation is gone and anyone can go to any school they want. The only thing left to ask is whether you feel comfortable with a system that sustains the results of segregation after it is gone. In what way do HBCUs “sustain the results of segregation”? Are there any HBCUs that restrict admissions or give priority to admissions based on race? Are there any that have ANY racially-based policies (formal or otherwise) relating to admission or retention of students? It is also worth noting that most of the HBCUs take students who have lower grades, lower test scores, and less academic preparation than those admitted to flagship universities. That means that many HBCU students would NOT be admitted elsewhere, would NOT be able to go to any school they want. Shutting down the HBCUs would serve what purpose, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/146 "2016-02-01T20:49:18Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Finally, if we look at cultural motivation, it is very hard to find a case that whites and asians who are skilled at football and basketball or sprinting abandon those dreams at any point for any reason before it becomes obvious they are not going to make the big leagues. Stardom and money are almost always first choices for putative careers. Back in post #42, I linked to a youth sports survey. Among the surveyed children who stopped participating, only 15% quit because they weren’t a good enough player. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/147 "2016-02-02T03:28:19Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Well these 2 articles, supplied to me by another poster claim that biologists/evolutionists claim that a few hundred years is not time enough to substantially change the whole gene pool via selective selection. [1](http://www.salon.com/2012/07/25/michael_johnsons_gold_medal_in_ignorance/), [2](http://quinxy.com/politics/why-slavery-didnt-make-african-americans-superior-athletes/) Yeah, but 70,000 years and exposure of at least one source pool to even more ancient lineages is obviously enough time to diverge gene variants and their frequencies. The proof is that we can measure both the gene frequencies and the empiric outcomes! ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/148 "2016-02-02T03:30:58Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Back in post #42, I linked to a youth sports survey. Among the surveyed children who stopped participating, only 15% quit because they weren’t a good enough player. Lemme guess…the rest coulda been a pro star, had they wanted. Walked away from fame and fortune to be car salesmen. LOL ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/149 "2016-02-02T03:44:07Z")
I think porn actresses are too white, while porn actors are increasingly too colored. For immediate rectification. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/150 "2016-02-02T14:21:21Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > What about a historically black college - shouldn’t AA for whites be part of a remedial measure for its student body? And what injustice have whites suffered as a result of historically black colleges? Or are you saying that more whites at historically black colleges would somehow address injustices suffered by the black colleges or their students? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/151 "2016-02-02T14:25:23Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > They didn’t (not formally at least) but they were part of the overall discriminatory system. They existed due to discrimination against blacks, and having schools that don’t have disproportionate numbers of one race - either one - is part of the overall goal of ending a discriminatory system. > > If you think that’s just about “diversity,” fine. I think it shows that the line between remedying past discrimination and diversity as its own goal is blurry. No, the line is not blurry. Liberal academics pretend it is but its not. There is no real reason that we cannot apply affirmative action as a remedial measure but we don’t. We give preferences to latinos. We give preferences to all sorts of other minorities that were not historically victims of slavery or genocide. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/152 "2016-02-02T14:35:26Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > No, the line is not blurry. Liberal academics pretend it is but its not. There is no real reason that we cannot apply affirmative action as a remedial measure but we don’t. We give preferences to latinos. We give preferences to all sorts of other minorities that were not historically victims of slavery or genocide. The line is obviously very blurry. The idea that you can declare that past racial discrimination only affected on particular part of scociety or people’s lives and didn’t extend into any other is nonsense. > [@](#): > > There is no real reason that we cannot apply affirmative action as a remedial measure but we don’t. We give preferences to latinos. We give preferences to all sorts of other minorities that were not historically victims of slavery or genocide. Slavery or genocide are not the issue. Past discrimination, of any kind, is. I am also very skeptical of AA, like you. I don’t think it should be used lightly either. But you can’t say put everything in silos like you’re trying to do. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/153 "2016-02-02T14:37:04Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > A distinction without a difference. > > If segregation hadn’t existed, HBCUs wouldn’t exist. > > Do you also think we should keep blacks-only beaches, and clubs, and water fountains, and public schools too? Because they were a “response” to discrimination? Those weren’t responses to discrimination. That WAS the discrimination. I think I see where you are getting confused. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/154 "2016-02-02T14:42:29Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > The line is obviously very blurry. The idea that you can declare that past racial discrimination only affected on particular part of scociety or people’s lives and didn’t extend into any other is nonsense. > > Slavery or genocide are not the issue. Past discrimination, of any kind, is. > > I am also very skeptical of AA, like you. I don’t think it should be used lightly either. But you can’t say put everything in silos like you’re trying to do. **lance** , you never responded to my last post in our discussion. If you care to, here it is: > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is nonsensical, and akin to comparing the NAACP to Jim Crow. One was a system designed to harm black people, and one was a response to try and protect/help black people. > > There are many things I’m uncomfortable with, but HBCUs are not one of them. Why would they be? Again, how do they harm anyone at all, and how would anything or anyone be better without them? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/155 "2016-02-02T14:45:19Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > The line is obviously very blurry. The idea that you can declare that past racial discrimination only affected on particular part of scociety or people’s lives and didn’t extend into any other is nonsense. The line is pretty fucking clear. If your ancestors weren’t slaves then we don’t need to remedy past discrimination. If THAT were the criteria, we would still be giving Asians a preference. There are only TWO bases for affirmative action: the legacy of slavery and the legacy of genocide. Anything beyond that is blurry and is usually better described as diversity rather than affirmative action. Any other effects of past discrimination are better addressed by socioeconomic preferences rather than racial ones. > [@](#): > > Slavery or genocide are not the issue. Past discrimination, of any kind, is. No, slavery and genocide are the sole bases for affirmative action as it was first implemented. it has since BECOME blurry as more and more rationales and groups bet thrown into the mix. > [@](#): > > I am also very skeptical of AA, like you. I don’t think it should be used lightly either. But you can’t say put everything in silos like you’re trying to do. Of course you can, we just don’t. We let these preferences bleed over into other areas because it is an effective tool to confer advantages whether those advantages are warranted or not. BTW, I am not skeptical of affirmative action. I just think that people have appropriated the term to give advantages to other groups that don’t really warrant it. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/156 "2016-02-02T14:54:09Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The line is pretty fucking clear. If your ancestors weren’t slaves then we don’t need to remedy past discrimination. OK. Got a list? > [@](#): > > There are only TWO bases for affirmative action: the legacy of slavery and the legacy of genocide. > > […] > > No, slavery and genocide are the sole bases for affirmative action as it was first implemented. it has since BECOME blurry as more and more rationales and groups bet thrown into the mix. What are you basing this conclusion on? Doesn’t sound like the history of affirmative action I’m familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/157 "2016-02-02T15:07:25Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Lemme guess…the rest coulda been a pro star, had they wanted. Walked away from fame and fortune to be car salesmen. > > LOL That’s just handwaving inconvenient data. There’s no fame and fortune at the youth sports level. It’s many years and thousands of hours removed from any material benefit to the players, and players - even really talented ones - quit all the time for reasons like trying to improve their grades, dissatisfaction with coaches, and not having fun. If you think there’s no one who could have been a pro athlete had they stuck with it past age 8 or whatever, you’re mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/158 "2016-02-02T20:13:48Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > So racial discrimination is okay. Apparently so. [Connecticut | Mediaite](http://www.mediaite.com/online/uconn-introduces-separate-dorm-for-those-who-identify-as-african-american/) ---
**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/159 "2016-02-02T23:51:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Apparently so. [Connecticut | Mediaite](http://www.mediaite.com/online/uconn-introduces-separate-dorm-for-those-who-identify-as-african-american/) Why didn’t you scoot on down to the comments to see [this](http://www.snopes.com/blacks-dorm-uconn/)? > [@](#): > > The claim that UConn was constructing a special dorm for black students only was false: The learning community ScHOLA²RS House is only one of many such academic communities on campus, participants aren’t required to be black, and it is open to anyone who wants to be a part of it. Imagine that! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913/160 "2016-02-02T23:52:30Z")
> [@piepiepie](#): > > Why didn’t you scoot on down to the comments to see [this](http://www.snopes.com/blacks-dorm-uconn/)? > > Imagine that! If true I stand corrected. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-nfl-enact-affirmative-action-hire-more-white-players/743913.md?page=9)