# Should the U.S. attack Hamas now?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 24, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059 "2004-03-24T02:44:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![legion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@legion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legion)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/41 "2004-03-25T11:57:09Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> OP asked, “Should we attack Hamas now to keep them from carrying out their threats?”
> 
> You answered, “That guy who has no nukes, no army, no navy, no air force, no spy satillites said he is gonna kick our arse…I know, let’s attack, attack, attack?”
> 
> Please explain the connection.  
> P.S. “We” is the royal “I”. Kings use it all the time. I am King, I think…

No. You work it out. I’m sure it’s not beyond you.

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**Author:** ![sinical\_brit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@sinical\_brit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinical_brit)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/42 "2004-03-25T14:38:23Z")

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Well, i agree with Binarydrone.

Adle - your bitterness ( even when you appear to be agreeing with the majority of posters) is getting in the way of a good debate. Lighten up and tell me things i should now about Hamas and the infomation comming out of the Middle East.

Banging on about the media is pointless.

Back to the OP:

I really dont think that US will do anything to Hamas. Why would they get their hands dirty? Israel is doing fine perpetuating the stalemate. I wonder if Sharon actually wants and end to any of this. It seems that whenever things calm down to a background level of violence, Sharon ups the ante a bit. I rekon he feels " at home ".

An aside:  
quote " Israeli bombs are jusy as accurate as American bombs". No Shit Sherlock - I think you may find they ARE American bombs…

sin

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/43 "2004-03-25T15:57:04Z")

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Oh well… There is a lot of denial and accusation that Israel made the whole thing up.

Most people here are so out on getting “cites”, so permit me to have some fun with giving you what you want:

> **[Breaking News, World News and Video from Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/)**
>
> News, analysis from the Middle East & worldwide, multimedia & interactives, opinions, documentaries, podcasts, long reads and broadcast schedule.

Such an easy thing to do… I might get adduicted to this…  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/44 "2004-03-25T16:00:14Z")

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Sorry, the above is for an other thread…

See what this “cite” game does to me ?. I’m having that much fun with giving you your “cites” that I’m already throwing them around at random.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/45 "2004-03-25T16:08:54Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
>
> Oh well… There is a lot of denial and accusation that Israel made the whole thing up.
> 
> Most people here are so out on getting “cites”, so permit me to have some fun with giving you what you want:
> 
> [Breaking News, World News and Video from Al Jazeera](http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8C7BCBC3-CA2C-4F33-B27D-80AF0AF830E2.htm)
> 
> Such an easy thing to do… I might get adduicted to this…  
> Salaam. A

[Aldebaran]It had to be Jews,  
It had to be Jews…  
They wandered around  
And finally found  
A retarded stoooooge…[/Aldebaran]

😃

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/46 "2004-03-25T16:21:43Z")

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> [@sinical brit](#):
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> your bitterness ( even when you appear to be agreeing with the majority of posters) is getting in the way of a good debate.

Sorry, but you made me smile because: What “bitterness” ??  
I can assure you that I have no reason whatsoever to be bitter about anything considering my situation or my life.

> [@](#):
>
> Lighten up and tell me things i should now about Hamas and the infomation comming out of the Middle East.

No problem at all. But you first need to formulate your questions.

But if you want my opinion about this assasination order as the latest move of Sharon: I consider Ariel Sharon to be a fanatical lunatic, like there are several in this world today (and were in the past). But he is an intelligent, ruthless and calculating murderer. One can’t say that -especially the first - from every other murderous lunatic who walks around these days and vie his political power influences the course of history.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/47 "2004-03-25T16:25:27Z")

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Malthus,

Reading your post above, I must conclude that you belong to the group who identify themselves with the “cites” they bring up or cry for.

That is your choice, but if you don’t mind: Please be so kind not to project that habit of yours onto me. Thank you.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/48 "2004-03-25T16:30:55Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Malthus,
> 
> Reading your post above, I must conclude that you belong to the group who identify themselves with the “cites” they bring up or cry for.
> 
> That is your choice, but if you don’t mind: Please be so kind not to project that habit of yours onto me. Thank you.  
> Salaam. A

Reading your post, I must conclude you either don’t get the reference or don’t have a sense of humour. 😛

The original was “It had to be you”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/49 "2004-03-25T16:50:58Z")

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> [@sinical brit](#):
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> An aside:  
> quote " Israeli bombs are jusy as accurate as American bombs". No Shit Sherlock - I think you may find they ARE American bombs…
> 
> sin

Maybe, maybe not; Israel is, after all, the fifth largest arm exporter in the world, with a particular strength in missile technology. Those may have been U.S. Hellfires (greatly improved by Israeli electronics, of course), but they may have been Israeli [Popeyes or Nimrods.](http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons_missile_systems.html)

U.S. military support for Israel is greatly overestimated.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/50 "2004-03-25T17:05:43Z")

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Malthus,

Sorry, but no, I have no idea what you talk about.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/51 "2004-03-25T17:31:01Z")

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**Aldebaran** , Psst: I am still waiting for you to answer my questions. If my ego was not so well shored up, I might almost conclude that they were making you uncomfortable and that you were avoiding engaging me.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/52 "2004-03-25T17:40:26Z")

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BD

May I ask you to look here:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4682312#post4682312](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4682312#post4682312)

post #59.  
Salaam A

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/53 "2004-03-25T17:59:57Z")

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After the atrocity of 9/11, I think that ANY terrorist group that makes open and direct threats against the USA, or its allies, should NOT be surprised if they get flattened! Sorry, but words matter…you can criticize the president of the USA all day, but the minute you actually threaten him, don’t be surprised-you will shortly get a visit from law enforcement.  
I think the practice of (not answering open threats) emboldens terrorists-this waspart of what drove the Al-Queda operations.  
So, to those contemplating harming the US and its citizens, rant and rave…but one day , remember what you said.  
It would be nice to see one of these bastards on TV one day, mouthing threats…then next day seeing his headquarters reduced to a heap of smoldering ashes! 🙂

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/54 "2004-03-25T18:28:56Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> OP asked, “Should we attack Hamas now to keep them from carrying out their threats?”
> 
> You ( **legion** ) answered, “That guy who has no nukes, no army, no navy, no air force, no spy satillites said he is gonna kick our arse…I know, let’s attack, attack, attack?”
> 
> Please explain the connection.

> [@legion](#):
>
> No. You work it out. I’m sure it’s not beyond you.

I can’t. Please help. Pretty, please…

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-u-s-attack-hamas-now/236059/55 "2004-03-25T18:41:14Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> After the atrocity of 9/11, I think that ANY terrorist group that makes open and direct threats against the USA, or its allies, should NOT be surprised if they get flattened!

Which would be nice if you could:

a) Specifically identify the guy/organization  
b) Specifically identify the building used by them  
c) Stop them from moving somewhere else  
c) NOT kill the innocents they hide among

To take your presidential analogy for a spin you’ll note that law enforcement doesn’t gun down a whole city block for 1 suspect.

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