# Should the USA annex Alberta?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 24, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094 "2014-12-24T14:07:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/1 "2014-12-24T14:07:09Z")

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Alberta is the Texas, the Kentucky, possibly the Venezuela, or maybe the Saudi Arabia of Canada: a petro-state where the Conservatives always win elections.

Of all of Canada, Alberta seems the most in line with mainstream US-American culture, which is to say very right-wing, Christianist, GOP-style, anti-environmentalist, and Reaganite. It attracts great numbers of Yanks to work in its oil industry.

Ted Cruz, who is either a parody of a don’t-mess-wit’-Texas conservative or in actuality an extreme form of one, was born there. Steve Harper, the Ronald Reagan of Canada, is from there.

Alberta is either the great bulwark keeping Canada from becoming, y’know, a European social democracy, or culturally a part of the USA in Canada by mistake.

So, I ask you: Should the USA annex Alberta? This is a serious question.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/2 "2014-12-24T14:08:35Z")

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I say yes. Because this will affirm both Ted Cruz and Steve Harper as the Americans they really are. Hey, Steve Harper could even be President!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/3 "2014-12-24T14:10:08Z")

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No. One Texas in the U.S. is enough.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/4 "2014-12-24T14:12:22Z")

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Also, this looks more like a poll than a debate. If a debate (as opposed to just squabbling) does not occur, soon, this will be moved to IMHO.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/5 "2014-12-24T14:16:30Z")

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Does Alberta want to be annexed? Does Canada want to get rid of it? I doubt we want to waste hundreds of dollars and tens of men in a war with Canada.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/6 "2014-12-24T14:21:40Z")

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No thankyou!!!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/7 "2014-12-24T14:32:12Z")

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The U.S. would destroy itself in trying to take any part of Canada by force.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/8 "2014-12-24T14:37:42Z")

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We have to fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/9 "2014-12-24T14:53:24Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Alberta is the Texas, the Kentucky, possibly the Venezuela, or maybe the Saudi Arabia of Canada: a petro-state where the Conservatives always win elections.
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> Of all of Canada, Alberta seems the most in line with mainstream US-American culture, which is to say very right-wing, Christianist, GOP-style, anti-environmentalist, and Reaganite. It attracts great numbers of Yanks to work in its oil industry.  
> So, I ask you: Should the USA annex Alberta? This is a serious question.

Perhaps we should annex the maritimes. Of all of Canada, they seem most in line with New England culture.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/10 "2014-12-24T14:59:41Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> We have to fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here.

Sometimes you have to destroy a nation (or steal a little piece of it anyway) to save it. We’d be doing it for God, Baseball and APPLE PIE AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF ALL THAT OIL!!! I LOVE this plan!

😛

(There isn’t a serious answer to this…not only doesn’t Alberta want to be part of the US, we don’t really want to expand either, and our relationship with Canada is about as close as to any nation on earth, so I doubt there is anything that either country would want to do to jeopardize that)

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/11 "2014-12-24T15:01:08Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> We’d be doing it for God, Baseball and APPLE PIE AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF ALL THAT OIL!!!

You forgot to mention Hot Dog Sandwiches.

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**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/12 "2014-12-24T15:01:57Z")

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Didn’t work out so well in Iraq - except for investors in some US stocks - so hell yeah, got to get it right some time.

Let me just adjust my portfolio first.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/13 "2014-12-24T15:04:07Z")

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They’re not even a real country anyway!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/14 "2014-12-24T15:05:10Z")

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I hope the US tries to invade in winter. It’ll be their Stalingrad.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/15 "2014-12-24T16:20:33Z")

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Sorey, I came to this thread late. Can anyone tell me what it is all aboot, eh?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/16 "2014-12-24T16:20:40Z")

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We already have a barren, frigid petro-state of our own (North Dakota), so it’s not worth our while to invade Alberta.

Besides, I hear those Mounties fight dirty.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/17 "2014-12-24T16:21:39Z")

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How, invade?

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/18 "2014-12-24T16:22:38Z")

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Why would we do that to the people of Alberta?

They’d be begging Canada to take them back damned quick once people got an ER or hospital bill.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/19 "2014-12-24T16:30:00Z")

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With their hockey hullabaloo, and that bitch Anne Murray, too!

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-usa-annex-alberta/708094/20 "2014-12-24T16:37:27Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Of all of Canada, Alberta seems the most in line with mainstream US-American culture…So, I ask you: Should the USA annex Alberta? This is a serious question.

By your logic, should Canada annex Washington state or Vermont? Those two states are similar to Canada.

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