# Should this veterinarian lose her license to practice?

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**Created:** [April 29, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833 "2015-04-29T18:46:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/1 "2015-04-29T18:46:26Z")

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[Sidewalk Dog](http://www.sidewalkdog.com/)is a Twin Cities based service which provides a directory of events, places, and services for the urban dog. It’s been good to find out what stores allows dogs or restaurants with pup friendly patios, and all the rest.

Unfortunately, they have been lately promoting on their facebook page a [Homeopathy for Pets and Their People](http://www.sidewalkdog.com/blog/2015/04/one-day-only-class-homeopathy-at-home-for-pets-and-their-people/) class by Dr Jessica Levy.

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> We’ve all been there: Something’s not quite right with your pup, but you aren’t sure how to help. Is there something you can do for your dog at home during that “waiting and watching” stage — you know, that time before you pick up the phone and call your vet?
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> Turns out, the answer is yes!
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> And that, my darlings, is why we’re bringing you this one-day-only class, co-hosted by a veterinarian and homeopath (see bios below), at a deep discount: so you can learn about homeopathy and how to choose and administer the correct home remedy for your pet (and for yourself!). It’s not an “either/or” situation, but a “both/and” scenario: Homeopathy can supplement the care your pet would get from a vet (or your loved ones would get from a doctor), and there are tons of great things you can do at home. [Sold? BUY DISCOUNT TIX HERE.]
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> Here’s another way to think of it: If you had a sore throat, you might gargle salt water, eat chicken soup, and rest up. Then, if that didn’t help enough, you’d go to the doctor, who would recommend antibiotics if they find strep. But back at home, you’d still keep napping, eating soup, and gargling salt water – because you know these things help you get better faster. So think of homeopathy as an additional tool you can use to care for your family — both human and canine — and think of this class as a crash-course.

After a lot of protesting on their previous announcement on facebook, Sidewalk Dog adding the following:

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> [Editor’s Note: Homeopathy is meant to supplement your regular vet care, not supplant it. This is a “both/and” situation, not an “either/or.” To be clear: Sidewalk Dog also loves ourselves some modern medicine.]

That said, they’re still promoting the B.S.:

> [@](#):
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> In addition to all the knowledge we’ll be dropping during the event, we’ll also be dropping gift bags into the paws of our attendees. That’s right: it just wouldn’t be a proper Sidewalk Dog event if there weren’t plenty of giveaways, so you’ll get to take home a goodie bag full of awesome stuff for you and your pet, including a free vial of **Arnica 30c (the #1 remedy for injuries and bruises)**, Wapiti Labs all-natural mobility supplements, and Sojos pet food!

[What is Arnica 30c?](http://www.amazon.com/Boiron-Homeopathic-Medicine-Montana-Pellets/dp/B0006NYI7C)

> [@](#):
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> • A homeopathic medicine that works naturally  
> • No side effects, no drug interactions, no contraindications, and no “masking” of symptoms  
> • Regulated as a OTC (Over the Counter) drug by the FDA

So, they’re claiming the #1 rememdy for injury and bruises also doesn’t cover any of the symptoms. Because what’s the purpose of a remedy for an injury if it doesn’t stop the pain or the bruising or …OK, I really just don’t understand the purpose of Arnica 30C.

But wait, this gets even crazier. The vet-and it pains me to use that word for her- who is running this class also runs a clinic that eschews things like vaccines.

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> [Homeoprophylaxis is now available for puppies and adult unvaccinated dogs.](http://www.holistic-vet-care.com/therapeutic-tools.html)
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> Homeoprophylaxis is the use of homeopathic remedies in the prevention of disease. This avoids the side effects of vaccines, while improving the dogs’ health. This is appropriate for puppies who have had an initial puppy shot or none, and for adult dogs who have not had any vaccines. If your dog has been vaccinated, you will need different homeopathic remedies and detailed homeopathic case-taking to treat the effects of vaccination.

Frankly, I’m not sure how she does this as [cities require dogs to be licensed. And to be licensed, the owner has to show proof of vaccination for rabies.](http://www.ci.blaine.mn.us/index.cfm?id=901627) (This is where the vet has her office.)

And before it’s all over, let’s talk about those bad subluxations that chiropractic care will resolve in your dog:

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> The bodywork that I do is a combination of Veterinary Spinal Manipulation and deep tissue massage. Physical manipulation restores normal spinal integrity, and releases patterns of body holding that can lead to stiffness, pain, and adverse effects on internal organs.
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> I completed the Veterinary Spinal Manipulation program at the Healing Oasis in Sturtevant, WI, in 2012, and in 2013 completed Phase I of Rolfing at the Rolf Institute in Boulder, CO. These two therapies together **help to resolve spinal subluxations,** postural issues, and abnormal movement patterns.

To me, if an adult of sound mind wants to believe in homeopathy and subluxations for themselves. Fine. Be stupid. But it’s only their own body and wallet that they’re damaging. However, when an animal who can’t voice their objections or needs is being preyed about by this charlatan bullshit, I want to bring the hammer down.

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/2 "2015-04-29T18:58:41Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> [Sidewalk Dog](http://www.sidewalkdog.com/)is a Twin Cities based service which provides a directory of events, places, and services for the urban dog. It’s been good to find out what stores allows dogs or restaurants with pup friendly patios, and all the rest.
> 
> Unfortunately, they have been lately promoting on their facebook page a [Homeopathy for Pets and Their People](http://www.sidewalkdog.com/blog/2015/04/one-day-only-class-homeopathy-at-home-for-pets-and-their-people/) class by Dr Jessica Levy.
> 
> After a lot of protesting on their previous announcement on facebook, Sidewalk Dog adding the following:  
> That said, they’re still promoting the B.S.:
> 
> [What is Arnica 30c?](http://www.amazon.com/Boiron-Homeopathic-Medicine-Montana-Pellets/dp/B0006NYI7C)  
> So, they’re claiming the #1 rememdy for injury and bruises also doesn’t cover any of the symptoms. Because what’s the purpose of a remedy for an injury if it doesn’t stop the pain or the bruising or …OK, I really just don’t understand the purpose of Arnica 30C.
> 
> But wait, this gets even crazier. The vet-and it pains me to use that word for her- who is running this class also runs a clinic that eschews things like vaccines.
> 
> Frankly, I’m not sure how she does this as [cities require dogs to be licensed. And to be licensed, the owner has to show proof of vaccination for rabies.](http://www.ci.blaine.mn.us/index.cfm?id=901627) (This is where the vet has her office.)
> 
> And before it’s all over, let’s talk about those bad subluxations that chiropractic care will resolve in your dog:
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> To me, if an adult of sound mind wants to believe in homeopathy and subluxations for themselves. Fine. Be stupid. But it’s only their own body and wallet that they’re damaging. However, when an animal who can’t voice their objections or needs is being preyed about by this charlatan bullshit, I want to bring the hammer down.

I would say that people are free to treat their pets in any way until that treatment becomes abuse. If there is no distress and no major illness then treat away with homeopathy. If there is distress or observable illness thenand recognised veterinary medicine should be used. Dog remains healthy, no problem, dog suffering from lack of veterinary attention by use of homeopathy as a replacement, then it becomes a public issue in the same manner that simple failure to treat would be.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/3 "2015-04-29T19:11:01Z")

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> [@Pjen](#):
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> I would say that people are free to treat their pets in any way until that treatment becomes abuse. If there is no distress and no major illness then treat away with homeopathy. If there is distress or observable illness thenand recognised veterinary medicine should be used. Dog remains healthy, no problem, dog suffering from lack of veterinary attention by use of homeopathy as a replacement, then it becomes a public issue in the same manner that simple failure to treat would be.

You don’t think purposefully not vaccinating for things like:  
_Rabies  
Distemper  
Parvovirus_  
isn’t abuse?

[Parvovirus is extremely contagious and can be transmitted by any person, animal or object that comes in contact with an infected dog’s feces. Highly resistant, the virus can live in the environment for months, and may survive on inanimate objects such as food bowls, shoes, clothes, carpet and floors. It is common for an unvaccinated dog to contract parvovirus from the streets, especially in urban areas where there are many dogs.](http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/parvo-parvovirus-dogs)

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/4 "2015-04-29T20:10:47Z")

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Any vet who prescribes homeopathy, or other disproven treatments, is ripping off her patients. That’s fraud.

And it doesn’t matter if quack treatments are in addition to scientific medicine. Charging thirty dollars for diluted water doesn’t become ethical if you also charge them a hundred bucks for the office visit. If the vet wants to prescribe a placebo, then she prescribes something free.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/5 "2015-04-29T20:30:04Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> You don’t think purposefully not vaccinating for things like:  
> _Rabies  
> Distemper  
> Parvovirus_  
> isn’t abuse?
> 
> [Parvovirus is extremely contagious and can be transmitted by any person, animal or object that comes in contact with an infected dog’s feces. Highly resistant, the virus can live in the environment for months, and may survive on inanimate objects such as food bowls, shoes, clothes, carpet and floors. It is common for an unvaccinated dog to contract parvovirus from the streets, especially in urban areas where there are many dogs.](http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/parvo-parvovirus-dogs)

I didn’t say that. Not vaccinating dogs is abuse. I was talking generally.

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**Author:** ![mrldii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@mrldii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrldii)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/6 "2015-04-29T20:42:34Z")

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You bring up interesting considerations and contradictions with this Vet’s ideas/promotions, OP.

Most jurisdictions DO require (at least) rabies vaccinations. Most jurisdictions also still view pets as “property”; the rights a “property” has are much more limited than a human’s rights - including the rights of minors. If one is able to get out of vaccinating a child due to one’s religious/personal beliefs, are they similarly able to get out of county-mandated vaccinations of animals?

On the rest of it, I’m mixed; I can see a benefit (actual or psychological) to pet owners’ _supplementing_ medical care with homeopathic care. I can even see someone being SO against Big Pharm/Big Medicine that they’d prefer ONLY homeopathic care/natural remedies.

Lose her licensing? I dunno. It reads to me like she’s simply given her name/prestige to a latest business venture…_like_ Dr. Oz is wont to do - and for which he’s been under fire, lately. Dr. Oz is making big bucks off his product endorsements - and those ARE products for human consumption.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/7 "2015-04-29T20:46:05Z")

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> [@mrldii](#):
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> On the rest of it, I’m mixed; I can see a benefit (actual or psychological) to pet owners’ _supplementing_ medical care with homeopathic care.

What actual benefit can come from supplementing real medical care with homeopathetic care?

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**Author:** ![mrldii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@mrldii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrldii)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/8 "2015-04-29T21:08:08Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What actual benefit can come from supplementing real medical care with homeopathetic care?

A personal example and experience: my 6-year old dog has epilepsy; he was born with it and had his first seizure at 2 months old. Unmedicated, he averages about one seizure every 3 weeks; each one lasts approximately 7 minutes (unusually long for a dog, according to his vet).

The treatment is expensive pills, taken daily which are supposed to lessen the frequency/duration/strength of his seizures. While on them (for over 3 years), he once went 7 weeks without a seizure; it was still as violent and lasted just as long.

Unfortunately, a side effect of the medication is liver damage, so 2 sets of (expensive) blood panels are taken each year to measure the rate of damage. His liver damage was on the high end. My choice was to either let an epileptic seizure kill him, or let the liver damage and/or an epileptic seizure do it.

A couple of years ago, I took him off the [expensive] meds. I’ve recently been introduced to positive results derived from natural dosages of Omega-3s in human epilepsy patients; I’m currently trying that.

It’s too soon to see if it’s working. If the medical field introduces an operation/therapy/treatment that is better than what they’ve currently got, I’ll be happy to try it.  
Oh, and my chiropractor suggested I bring my dog in for sessions, as he claimed treatment can work wonders on epilepsy. I didn’t notice any difference, other than the $35/session out of my wallet…and the odd feeling I got while sitting in his office that I was becoming one of _those_ pet owners.

:mad:

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/9 "2015-04-29T21:10:32Z")

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> [@mrldii](#):
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> A personal example and experience: my 6-year old dog has epilepsy; he was born with it and had his first seizure at 2 months old. Unmedicated, he averages about one seizure every 3 weeks; each one lasts approximately 7 minutes (unusually long for a dog, according to his vet).
> 
> The treatment is expensive pills, taken daily which are supposed to lessen the frequency/duration/strength of his seizures. While on them (for over 3 years), he once went 7 weeks without a seizure; it was still as violent and lasted just as long.
> 
> Unfortunately, a side effect of the medication is liver damage, so 2 sets of (expensive) blood panels are taken each year to measure the rate of damage. His liver damage was on the high end. My choice was to either let an epileptic seizure kill him, or let the liver damage and/or an epileptic seizure do it.
> 
> A couple of years ago, I took him off the [expensive] meds. I’ve recently been introduced to positive results derived from natural dosages of Omega-3s in human epilepsy patients; I’m currently trying that.
> 
> It’s too soon to see if it’s working. If the medical field introduces an operation/therapy/treatment that is better than what they’ve currently got, I’ll be happy to try it.  
> Oh, and my chiropractor suggested I bring my dog in for sessions, as he claimed treatment can work wonders on epilepsy. I didn’t notice any difference, other than the $35/session out of my wallet…and the odd feeling I got while sitting in his office that I was becoming one of _those_ pet owners.
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> :mad:

What did any of that have to do with homeopathy??😕

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/10 "2015-04-29T21:34:52Z")

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> [@mrldii](#):
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> A couple of years ago, I took him off the [expensive] meds. I’ve recently been introduced to positive results derived from natural dosages of Omega-3s in human epilepsy patients; I’m currently trying that.

This has at least a possibility of working. Homeopathy is just water.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/11 "2015-04-29T21:42:16Z")

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States should have laws requiring certain vaccinations. As long as the vet is not recommending against those I don’t see grounds for removing the vet’s license. However I would not take my best friend to see that vet.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/12 "2015-04-29T21:50:24Z")

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A vet who offers “homeopathic vaccines” for pets should be sanctioned by his/her board of veterinary medicine, in my opinion. Such “vaccines” ([also promoted by quacks for humans](https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/homeopathic-vaccines/)) are useless.

> [@](#):
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> What is Arnica 30c?
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> > [@](#):
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> > • A homeopathic medicine that works naturally  
> > • No side effects, no drug interactions, no contraindications, and no “masking” of symptoms  
> > • Regulated as a OTC (Over the Counter) drug by the FDA

A 30C solution is so highly diluted as it make it extremely unlikely that a single molecule of the “active” substance remains in the product. Naturally, this also makes side effects and drug interactions extremely unlikely as well.

> [@Pjen](#):
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> I would say that people are free to treat their pets in any way until that treatment becomes abuse. If there is no distress and no major illness then treat away with homeopathy. If there is distress or observable illness thenand recognised veterinary medicine should be used.

Newsflash: dogs (some breeds in particular) are good at hiding pain, so an owner (and even vet) may not be aware of just how badly they are suffering. Offering ineffective treatments in such an instance (i.e. chiropractic or homeopathy for degenerative arthritis) is an abuse of the pet.

Charging for ineffective treatments smacks of fraud.

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**Author:** ![mrldii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@mrldii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrldii)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/13 "2015-04-29T21:57:57Z")

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@Czarcasm:  
@Telemark:

My bad. I was responding to the Vet’s use of “homeopathic” in its generally and colloquially used sense nowadays of meaning alternative/natural treatments, not in its dictionary definition:

"ho·me·op·a·thy /ˌhōmēˈäpəTHē/

noun

noun: homeopathy; plural noun: homeopathies; noun: homoeopathy; plural noun: homoeopathies

the treatment of disease by minute doses of natural substances that in a healthy person would produce symptoms of disease."  
Obviously, treating a disease WITH a disease _would_ require a Vet/Doctor to administer it, so the whole idea of teaching people how to homeopathically administer diseases to their pets withOUT the necessary licensing to do so would simply be illegal.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/14 "2015-04-29T22:49:06Z")

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It gets people more in tune with their dog then they otherwise would and that helps their dog.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/15 "2015-04-29T23:43:38Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> It gets people more in tune with their dog then they otherwise would and that helps their dog.

What? No. That doesn’t even make sense.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/16 "2015-04-30T00:37:12Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> It gets people more in tune with their dog then they otherwise would and that helps their dog.

But I already give water to my pet.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/17 "2015-04-30T00:48:00Z")

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> [@mrldii](#):
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> "ho·me·op·a·thy /ˌhōmēˈäpəTHē/
> 
> noun
> 
> noun: homeopathy; plural noun: homeopathies; noun: homoeopathy; plural noun: homoeopathies
> 
> the treatment of disease by minute doses of natural substances that in a healthy person would produce symptoms of disease."  
> Obviously, treating a disease WITH a disease _would_ require a Vet/Doctor to administer it, so the whole idea of teaching people how to homeopathically administer diseases to their pets withOUT the necessary licensing to do so would simply be illegal.

I don’t think you’re quite getting the picture yet. When something is homeopathically diluted, it is sometimes to the point _where a molecule from the original substance no longer exists in the solution itself._ Using homeopathetic “medicine” in addition to real medicine is an incredible waste of money, and using it _instead_ of real medicine is dangerous.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/18 "2015-04-30T00:52:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I don’t think you’re quite getting the picture yet. When something is homeopathically diluted, it is sometimes to the point _where a molecule from the original substance no longer exists in the solution itself._ Using homeopathetic “medicine” in addition to real medicine is an incredible waste of money, and using it _instead_ of real medicine is dangerous.

To put it into context, the Homeopathic “treatment” given away at the event by the sponsor is called: Arnica 30c. This is referred to as “the #1 remedy for injuries and bruises”. [So what does that 30 c part exactly mean in homeopathic terms?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathic_dilutions)

> [@](#):
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> Dilution advocated by Hahnemann for most purposes: on average, this would require giving two billion doses per second to six billion people for 4 billion years to deliver a single molecule of the original material to any patient.

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**Author:** ![mrldii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@mrldii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrldii)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-this-veterinarian-lose-her-license-to-practice/718833/19 "2015-04-30T00:55:16Z")

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@Czarcasm:  
Again, I took the use of “homeopathic medicines/therapies” as used when quoting this Vet (within the OP) to be in the context to be referring to “natural and organic” as opposed to its _true_ meaning of ‘introducing controlled amounts of a disease to fight the disease’ within a pet.

As I stated earlier, she can’t very well hold DIY classes on how to inject diseases into one’s pet if, _to get ahold of the disease to begin with_, one has to have the proper [medical] licensing.

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The 30C in the name of the drug is homeopathy-speak for a dilution of one part in 100^30 (or one part in 10^60). Another way to express that, besides the one by StPauler, is that this is about a teaspoon of active ingredient diluted by a cube of water 100 light years on a side.

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