# Should Trump get credit if there's a Gaza peace deal? \[+Will the Deal Hold and will Trump continue to support it?\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 6, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708 "2025-10-06T00:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/41 "2025-10-10T13:46:25Z")
What did Trump do to get the ceasefire? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/42 "2025-10-10T13:59:41Z")
Better luck next year, Donnie. Maybe it’ll help if you threaten to bomb Oslo. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/43 "2025-10-10T17:35:39Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > But they could tell him he can still get one posthumously. Like next year. I think a case could be made that the…_uh_… _absence_ of trump from the world scene would definitely advance the cause of world peace. Heck, world peace, domestic peace, economic stability, immigrants’ rights, reconciliation of ancient enemies, reversal of hair loss, and regular bowel movements for all! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/44 "2025-10-10T18:06:37Z")
I found it ironic yesterday when I heard Trump, in one breath talking about how miraculous it was that he had instituted full and lasting peace, and in the next breath griping that he wished Israel would stop dropping bombs to make things easier. Sure, a ceasefire was “in the works”, but this is like celebrating the touchdown before the first play of a drive is over. Likewise, a “peace deal” that lasts a couple of days isn’t anything that people should get too excited about. Let’s see what everything looks like a year from now. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/45 "2025-10-10T18:20:41Z")
And after providing the weapons Netanyahu used to level Gaza and starve its people, Trump has apparently been a party to negotiating a conditional surrender by Hamas. Yay. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/46 "2025-10-10T19:49:21Z")
Information in an _Al Jazeera_ article from yesterday: > **[Will Hamas agree to hand over its weapons as part of a Gaza ceasefire deal?](https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/10/9/will-hamas-agree-to-hand-over-its-weapons-as-part-of-a-gaza-ceasefire-deal)** > > Negotiations over Hamas's disarmament may emerge as a key obstacle to securing a permanent end to Israel's war on Gaza. It points out that while Hamas has at least been receptive to the idea of some kind of disarmament (in theory, so far), they are unlikely to completely give up all of their weapons. They might give up their missiles but hang onto other weapons out of fear of Israel taking advantage. The article also points out that while Hamas is the largest group in Gaza fighting Israel, it’s not the only one, and even if Hamas truly does stop its fighting that doesn’t guarantee peace in the area. It may just create a vacuum filled by someone else. Ironically, there is a suggestion that Hamas should be used to protect people against other groups who often act like more like gangs than a military, and could be something of a peacekeeping force. > Many Palestinians in Gaza believe Hamas should preserve some military capabilities to stop these gangs from exploiting a possible power vacuum, Taghreed Khodary, an analyst on Israel-Palestine who is from Gaza, told Al Jazeera. > > “Israel created gangs and gave them weapons and guns to kill their own people [in Gaza]. Now Israel wants to expel Hamas, but Hamas is needed to maintain internal security,” she said. > > “Hamas is very good at providing security,” she stressed. Of course, these are just ideas of what to do moving forward, assuming this deal actually works. There’s a possibility that the war will just continue if things break down, such as one side going back on its promises or being unsatisfied and starting the conflict again. And Hamas might be very resistant to keep peace if peacekeeping might too closely resemble suppression of other groups resisting Israeli abuses. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/47 "2025-10-10T20:02:51Z")
Hamas would be nuts to hand over weapons. Just sayin’. > [@Atamasama](#): > > There’s a possibility that the war will just continue if things break down… Most likely scenario. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/48 "2025-10-12T05:46:49Z")
As a side note, after the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland, it took years for [most of] the IRA to give up their weapons - and that was with a guaranteed political structure they could work peacefully within. This might be an opportunity for a longer-term, maybe even lasting, settlement - if it isn’t approached with the expectation that there’ll be a quick, easy and photo-opped deal just waiting to be imposed. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/49 "2025-10-12T07:28:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hamas would be nuts to hand over weapons. Just sayin’. Hamas could smile and hand over every weapon in the joint, down to their nail clippers, and be back in business by the following Friday. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/50 "2025-10-12T12:21:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hamas would be nuts to hand over weapons. Just sayin’. Israel would be nuts to leave Hamas armed. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/51 "2025-10-12T13:16:16Z")
And neither side is nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/52 "2025-10-12T13:20:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And neither side is nuts Hamas is absolutely nuts, if not bananas. But they’re the wrong sort of nuts - the sort that thinks that _not_ disarming is a good idea because if hostilities resume they have some kind of chance. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/53 "2025-10-12T14:27:16Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Israel would be nuts to leave Hamas armed. Just sayin’. John Oliver’s show a few weeks ago about Netanyahu (bottom line: he’s an evil and corrupt m.f’er) made an extraordinary claim that I’d never heard before: he’s been funding Hamas. He likes to have a strong Hamas as a counterbalance to the Palestinian Authority, thereby dividing Palestinian loyalties. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/54 "2025-10-12T21:38:24Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > the sort that thinks that _not_ disarming is a good idea because if hostilities resume they have some kind of chance. That seems pretty sane to me. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/55 "2025-10-13T09:46:55Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > an extraordinary claim that I’d never heard before: he’s been funding Hamas I’ve seen that reported several times, albeit rather more nuanced than suggesting N funded the entire Hamas operation. > **[For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/)** > > The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from [https://www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/](https://www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/) > **[A brief history of the Netanyahu-Hamas alliance | Opinion](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000)** > > \*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/56 "2025-10-13T18:31:27Z")
Since neither a representative from Israel nor Hamas were apparently present at the signing, I have to wonder which details they helped to iron out. I’m trying to be optimistic but don’t want to be naive. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/57 "2025-10-13T18:49:57Z")
Seriously. How can there be a peace summit without the warring principals? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/58 "2025-10-13T18:58:33Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > How can there be a peace summit without the warring principals? Is this a “peace summit”? The negotiations happened previously and elsewhere and the agreement that was reached is already being carried out. This wasn’t a summit where world leaders meet up to sign a deal, this was a Trump photo op. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/59 "2025-10-13T19:28:40Z")
The hostages were all released, so yeah, he gets credit for that. Maybe this means a ceasefire for sometime, ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/60 "2025-10-13T19:49:23Z")
Trump is a vulture. He swoops in after 2 years of carnage (that he and his predecessor abetted), Hamas is wiped out, 67000 civilians are dead, the entire country is reduced to rubble, and proposes terms that Hamas has no choice but to accept. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=4)