# Should Trump get credit if there's a Gaza peace deal? \[+Will the Deal Hold and will Trump continue to support it?\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 6, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708 "2025-10-06T00:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/61 "2025-10-13T20:18:55Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > This might be an opportunity for a longer-term, maybe even lasting, settlement - if it isn’t approached with the expectation that there’ll be a quick, easy and photo-opped deal just waiting to be imposed Trump is just utterly incapable of under playing his hand. He could have presented this as a hopeful first step on which to continue building a just peace, and he would have deserved some credit for that. But no, he’s got to get up there and brag about solving “3000 years of violence”, and creating a peace that will last forever. I’d say that when it blows up on him, it would cost him, but we all know it won’t. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/62 "2025-10-13T20:37:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The hostages were all released, so yeah, he gets credit for that. Maybe this means a ceasefire for sometime, I have read that Netanyahu is expected to be back in court three days a week (to make up for lost time) as of November. So I’d expect the ceasefire to hold until about Oct 31st at the latest. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/63 "2025-10-13T20:52:32Z")
As far as I’m aware, this “deal” is not that dissimilar to what hamas had proposed to release the hostages quite some time ago but Israel would not agree to releasing the Palestinian prisoners. Trump has perhaps twisted arms enough (and Gaza is in ruins anyway) that it’s now more palatable. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/64 "2025-10-13T21:39:13Z")
I agree with the jist of your post, except for the part about Israel wiping out Hamas, which was Israel’s ostensible mission. They never did get around to that. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/65 "2025-10-13T21:45:23Z")
> [@Mallard](#): > > As far as I’m aware, this “deal” is not that dissimilar to what hamas had proposed to release the hostages quite some time ago but Israel would not agree to releasing the Palestinian prisoners. Hamas proposed amnesty in return for their committing to peaceful coexistence and decommissioning weapons ([point 6](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-trumps-20-point-proposal-to-end-the-war-in-gaza))? When was that? See: [A Coordinated Squeeze Play Forced Hamas to Accept a Deal It Didn’t Want](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-coordinated-squeeze-play-forced-hamas-to-accept-a-deal-it-didn-t-want/ar-AA1Ok1Su?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=88dd8d9a8cc941a48793b69c89b0257d&ei=12) > [@](#): > > But two days later, Hamas came back to Arab mediators with a yes. The deal hadn’t changed. The pressure on Hamas had. > > Egypt and Qatar told Hayya the deal was his last chance to end the war, according to the officials. > > . . . if Hamas didn’t approve the plan it would be stripped of all political and diplomatic cover; Qatar and Turkey would no longer host the group’s political leadership In five or ten years when memoirs and some of the early histories have been published, I predict we’ll find out that Trump was a noisey bystander while Hamas lost the war. Am I sure? No. I think there’s more to learn. What proportion of Hamas prisoners in Israel were released? Did Hamas get the people it wanted most? World leaders need to give Trump credit because he’s too dangerous a man to anger. But it is easy to overestimate the U.S. role here. ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/66 "2025-10-14T01:49:33Z")
Fair enough, I apologize. I thought my comment was still relevant but I see now how I was mistaken. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/67 "2025-10-14T13:00:49Z")
So…is there going to be a Palestinian diaspora where they’re all shipped to some 3rd party country? Wasn’t that the trump plan, to turn it into a resort? According to trump, afa Gaza is concerned, he doesn’t have to buy it, because there’s nothing there. Worthless land. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/68 "2025-10-14T13:08:36Z")
Mike Huckabee, US Ambassador to Israel and associate of an alarming number of pedophiles, is upset that anyone other than the Golden Calf he worships is getting credit for the Gaza ceasefire: > > > Sky News @SkyNews However, Steve Witkoff, the US Special Envoy to the Middle East, says otherwise: > **[UK played 'vital role' in Gaza peace deal, says Trump aide, after minister...](https://news.sky.com/story/uk-played-key-role-in-gaza-peace-deal-but-no-uk-troops-on-ground-minister-says-13448889)** > > America's envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, insisted Britain had played a key part in securing Gaza peace deal, contradicting the US ambassador to Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/69 "2025-10-14T13:30:51Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > So…is there going to be a Palestinian diaspora where they’re all shipped to some 3rd party country? Wasn’t that [pretty much what they did with them way back when all this started?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee_camps) I seem to recall it didn’t work out so well. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/70 "2025-10-14T14:04:43Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > So…is there going to be a Palestinian diaspora where they’re all shipped to some 3rd party country? No. That isn’t in any way part of this particular agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/71 "2025-10-14T14:34:27Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > So…is there going to be a Palestinian diaspora where they’re all shipped to some 3rd party country? Nope. > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Wasn’t that the trump plan, to turn it into a resort? That was the Trump TikTok video; I don’t think there was ever any actual plan other than this one. The purpose of putting out a video like that and sabre rattling about casinos was to threaten Hamas with something that would actually scare them. Did it work? I highly doubt it; I think the largest factor was the diplomatic work with Qatar. Trump gave Qatar a [security guarantee;](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/assuring-the-security-of-the-state-of-qatar/) and of course he gave them access to that airbase for training. Those are the carrots. The stick, it sounds like, was a threat to pull US bases out of Qatar, which could potentially leave Qatar vulnerable to the Saudis or Emirates who have had their eyes on the tiny nation for decades. I don’t think whether Hamas is on board or not matters much for these or any other negotiations. You need to convince the adults in the room - that being the Qataris in this case, though first you have to drive the other adults (Iran) _out_ of the room. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/72 "2025-10-14T14:40:36Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The purpose of putting out a video like that and sabre rattling about casinos was to threaten Hamas with something that would actually scare them. From _Trump?_ No; for Trump it’s always about _him._ It was about him trying to rationalize some way he could profit from the situation. He’s a malignant narcissist, everything he says and does is about him, and only him. _Nothing_ Trump does or says is going to be motivated by any concern for Israel or the Palestinians; they are not Trump, and therefore are _only_ of worth insofar as they can be used to profit and glorify him. Assuming he’s on your side is a mistake, no matter what side that is; he’s only on _his_ side. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/73 "2025-10-14T14:42:47Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > From _Trump?_ You think the video came _from Trump_? You think he knows how to prompt AI, cut together separate videos that came from separate prompts, etc? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/74 "2025-10-14T14:45:24Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > You think the video came _from Trump_? You think he knows how to prompt AI, cut together separate videos that came from separate prompts, etc? He has minions for that. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/75 "2025-10-14T14:50:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > _Nothing_ Trump does or says is going to be motivated by any concern for …anyone not named Donald John Trump Sr. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/76 "2025-10-14T14:57:37Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He has minions for that. Yes, exactly! Minions who know “Trump wants the credit that comes with a peace deal” and who, being smarter than Trump, can figure out how to get that. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/77 "2025-10-14T15:02:22Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Yes, exactly! Minions who know “Trump wants the credit that comes with a peace deal” and who, being smarter than Trump, can figure out how to get that. No; minions who know Trump only cares about himself, and so will present any proposal in a way that looks like it will profit him. So, casinos. Do you think he actually _cares_ about peace? Of course not. If he could make some money from it or a Noble Peace Prize, he’d happily see the entire region reduced to a heap of ash. No one there is Trump, so they are of no value. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/78 "2025-10-14T15:03:57Z")
It has been suggested that the current ceasefire is basically the same one previously negotiated by Biden and Blinken: > **[Deal between Israel and Hamas was ready a year ago, says negotiator | Caliber.Az](https://caliber.az/en/post/deal-between-israel-and-hamas-was-ready-a-year-ago-says-negotiator)** > > A Gaza ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas, which began its first phase this week, could have been implemented over a year ago, an independent Israeli negotiator... > [@](#): > > Baskin said that while Hamas accepted the deal in writing and in voice messages, the Israeli government, led by then-Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, refused to act. “This deal could have been done a long time ago,” Baskin wrote, noting that American officials also failed to push for its adoption. > > According to Baskin, U.S. negotiators, including Brett McGurk, were frustrated in their attempts to convince the Biden administration to consider the plan. “In Doha, the Qataris said they could do nothing more without the American adoption of the plan; the obstacle was Israel,” he added. > > Baskin said that Israeli officials had no intention of concluding a deal before a U.S. administration change. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/79 "2025-10-14T15:05:23Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No; minions who know Trump only cares about himself, and so will present any proposal in a way that looks like it will profit him. So, casinos. That would make sense if, for example, Trump was currently pursuing the Casino plan. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Do you think he actually _cares_ about peace? Of course not. I think he cares about giving himself credit for peace. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/80 "2025-10-14T15:07:04Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It has been suggested that the current ceasefire is basically the same one previously negotiated by Biden and Blinken: Did the prior plan include the disarmanent of Hamas? If not, it’s really not the same plan at all, is it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=5)