# Should Trump get credit if there's a Gaza peace deal? \[+Will the Deal Hold and will Trump continue to support it?\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 6, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708 "2025-10-06T00:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/81 "2025-10-14T15:10:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Maybe this means a ceasefire for sometime, Who had “less than a week”? > **[Trump hints at 'action' if Hamas doesn't return hostage bodies](https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-live-updates/?id=126446763)** > > Hamas committed to returning all living and deceased captives being held in the strip as part of the ceasefire deal reached earlier this month. Full headline: # Israel-Gaza live updates: 5 Palestinians killed in Gaza City for alleged ceasefire violation, IDF says ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/82 "2025-10-14T15:13:21Z")
He sold bombs to Israel and allowed them to bomb innocent people in Gaza. He prevented the UN from providing food and medical supplies. He allowed hospitals to be destroyed under the pretense that they’re “Hamas.” I predict his next step is a big rebuilding plan, paid for largely by the US with money that will be funneled to Trump’s companies. And the new inhabitants will not be the Palestinians whose homes have been destroyed. The immediate next step is for Israel to use some pretense to start killing again. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/83 "2025-10-14T15:18:34Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That would make sense if, for example, Trump was currently pursuing the Casino plan. But _at that time_ it was what his sycophants came up to please him. By now Og knows what he’s imagining should eventually happen. > [@Babale](#): > > I think he cares about giving himself credit for peace And if it all falls apart he’ll insist “ _ **I** _ got peace. YOU weak losers screwed it up.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/84 "2025-10-14T15:18:43Z")
So Trump took an old plan, crossed off “Biden” and wrote in “Trump” (in sharpie), and said “Gimme my Nobel Prize!”? I believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/85 "2025-10-14T15:24:28Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > So Trump took an old plan, crossed off “Biden” and wrote in “Trump” (in sharpie), and said “Gimme my Nobel Prize!”? > [@Babale](#): > > Did the prior plan include the disarmanent of Hamas? If not, it’s really not the same plan at all, is it? > [@jsc1953](#): > > I believe it. If you ignore the details of the prior plan and current plan, I guess you can squint and pretend that they’re identical. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/86 "2025-10-14T16:08:38Z")
On the one hand we have the word of an experienced Israeli negotiator literally involved in the peace negotiations. On the other hand, we’ve got…yours. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/87 "2025-10-14T16:10:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > On the one hand we have the word of an experienced Israeli negotiator literally involved in the peace negotiations. Really? You have the word of an experienced Israeli negotiator literally involved in the peace negotiations and he said that the Biden plan involved Hamas disarming? Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/88 "2025-10-14T16:13:58Z")
I have the word of an experienced Israeli negotiator literally involved in the peace negotiations that the two ceasefire agreements are fundamentally the same, and I’ve already offered a cite for that. Were you not capable of reading it? But please keep dragging those goalposts off to the horizon. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/89 "2025-10-14T16:17:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I have the word of an experienced Israeli negotiator literally involved in the peace negotiations that the two ceasefire agreements are fundamentally the same, and I’ve already offered a cite for that. Were you not capable of reading it? The cite didn’t say that Hamas had agreed to disarm when Biden was president, and since that was the red line that Israel didn’t agree to violate, I don’t see how it’s relevant. If you keep refusing the food I offer you because I’m offering you breaded pork cutlets, and then I storm off in frustration and someone else comes up to you and offers you breaded chicken cutlets which you accept, I’d be pretty fucking stupid if I whined about how I offered you something that was “fundamentally the same”. Especially if the reason you were refusing the pork cutlets is because you’re a Muslim and consider pork Haram. The difference between now and then is that then Qatar was telling Hamas “don’t worry, keep holding out, we aren’t going to force you to accept disarmanent”, and now they changed their tune. Whether they changed their tune because they actually intend to force Hamas to accept defeat, or as a play to win favor with Trump, remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/90 "2025-10-14T16:41:20Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The cite didn’t say that Hamas had agreed to disarm when Biden was president, and since that was the red line that Israel didn’t agree to violate, I don’t see how it’s relevant. [Yeah, about that](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/oct/14/gaza-ceasefire-israel-hamas-palestine-hostages-detainees-truce-live-news-updates)… > [@](#): > > - **Hamas disarmament** > > Disarmament is a central tenet of the Trump plan – but on Saturday a senior Hamas official [told Agence France-Presse](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hkr1yb00tlg) that disarmament was “out of the question”, adding: “The demand that we hand over our weapons is not up for negotiation.” Even as the hostages were released on Monday, there were [images of armed fighters in parts of Gaza](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/13/hamas-deploys-armed-fighters-and-police-across-parts-of-gaza), an apparent attempt by Hamas to reassert its authority. [And also..](https://news.sky.com/story/if-hamas-and-israel-agree-on-a-peace-deal-it-will-be-donald-trumps-success-13443923). > [@](#): > > Within minutes, the US president had posted the Hamas response on his own social media. It was clear from the wording of the Hamas statement that it was by no means an unequivocal acceptance of the 20-point plan. > > But then, via his press secretary, again on social media, a clear indication that the US president was reading the Hamas statement as an acceptance of his deal even though, in black and white, it falls short of that. > [@](#): > > Mr Trump and his team know that the Hamas response does not yet commit to disarmament and it does not yet agree to fully disband - both conditions of the 20-point plan. [Even FoxNews is saying the same thing](https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-accepts-trump-peace-plan-ending-2-years-war-gaza-returning-hostages): > [@](#): > > Hamas appeared to agree to part of the original terms presented by the Trump administration. But it also signalled over the weekend that it had concerns over its disarmament and the trustworthiness of Israel not to re-engage with its military ambitions once the hostages are returned. How’s that “red line” looking? Seems like what Hamas agreed to under Biden _is_ the same thing they’ve agreed to so far under Trump. > [@Babale](#): > > If you keep refusing the food I offer you because I’m offering you breaded pork cutlets, and then I storm off in frustration and someone else comes up to you and offers you breaded chicken cutlets which you accept, I’d be pretty fucking stupid if I whined about how I offered you something that was “fundamentally the same”. Especially if the reason you were refusing the pork cutlets is because you’re a Muslim and consider pork Haram. Are you somehow under the impression that this analogy applies here? > [@Babale](#): > > The difference between now and then is that then Qatar was telling Hamas “don’t worry, keep holding out, we aren’t going to force you to accept disarmanent”, and now they changed their tune. Whether they changed their tune because they actually intend to force Hamas to accept defeat, or as a play to win favor with Trump, remains to be seen. Or they haven’t changed their tune at all. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/91 "2025-10-14T16:55:49Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > How’s that “red line” looking? Seems like what Hamas agreed to under Biden _is_ the same thing they’ve agreed to so far under Trump. The red line looks great. That’s all part of Phase 2. Before, Hamas wouldn’t agree to implement Phase 1 (ceasefire and hostages) without a guarantee that Israel would agree to its part of the second phase (full withdrawal from Gaza) without Hamas agreeing to disarm. This time around, Israel _did not_ agree to implement any part of Phase 2 until Hamas agrees to disarm, and despite this Hamas did agree to implement Phase 1. That’s great - hostages have been released, aid is coming into Gaza, and the people get a much needed break from serving as Hamas’ human shields. Phase 2 is still on the table but Hamas has to disarm if they want to implement it. If not, we can go right back to fighting. I suspect that this is precisely Hamas’ plan: to use this as a break to rearm, fight some of their internal opponents, and prepare for another round of fight. That’s fine; Israel is capable of a lot more prep than Hamas is. The difference is that Biden did not manage to strongarm Hamas into implementing Phase 1 without a guarantee that Israel will violate its red line and allow Hamas to remain armed, but Trump (or more realistically Kushner) did. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Are you somehow under the impression that this analogy applies here? Yep! Biden wasn’t able to get Israel to agree to guarantee that they’ll tolerate an armed Hamas in Phase 2; Trump didn’t have to, because he convinced Hamas to implement Phase 1 without a guarantee that Phase 2 will allow them to remain armed. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Or they haven’t changed their tune at all. Qatar hasn’t changed their tune at all? That is incorrect: [https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-coordinated-squeeze-play-forced-hamas-to-accept-a-deal-it-didnt-want-7753f9c8?gaa\_at=eafs&gaa\_n=ASWzDAi89aUIJA4Soi-xhr5bAaMJwU\_TDeoSahNya4dzKOyw9EgPkexWoLxWOosfV3c%3D&gaa\_ts=68ee8365&gaa\_sig=imbNll7RsQaSQptyUDrfDngHjk0MDAEPyoB-\_9\_kPr4ozddXG0OqXxQZ4NgXGJOz5pyhY3ZIpzhygXhNUEaAhQ%3D%3D](https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-coordinated-squeeze-play-forced-hamas-to-accept-a-deal-it-didnt-want-7753f9c8?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAi89aUIJA4Soi-xhr5bAaMJwU_TDeoSahNya4dzKOyw9EgPkexWoLxWOosfV3c%3D&gaa_ts=68ee8365&gaa_sig=imbNll7RsQaSQptyUDrfDngHjk0MDAEPyoB-_9_kPr4ozddXG0OqXxQZ4NgXGJOz5pyhY3ZIpzhygXhNUEaAhQ%3D%3D) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/92 "2025-10-14T17:01:37Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The red line looks great. > > That’s all part of Phase 2. Before, Hamas wouldn’t agree to implement Phase 1 (ceasefire and hostages) without a guarantee that Israel would agree to its part of the second phase (full withdrawal from Gaza) without Hamas agreeing to disarm. > > This time around, Israel _did not_ agree to implement any part of Phase 2 until Hamas agrees to disarm, and despite this Hamas did agree to implement Phase 1. That’s great - hostages have been released, aid is coming into Gaza, and the people get a much needed break from serving as Hamas’ human shields. > > Phase 2 is still on the table but Hamas has to disarm if they want to implement it. If not, we can go right back to fighting. I suspect that this is precisely Hamas’ plan: to use this as a break to rearm, fight some of their internal opponents, and prepare for another round of fight. That’s fine; Israel is capable of a lot more prep than Hamas is. > > The difference is that Biden did not manage to strongarm Hamas into implementing Phase 1 without a guarantee that Israel will violate its red line and allow Hamas to remain armed, but Trump (or more realistically Kushner) did. So in other words, Hamas didn’t agree to disarmament under Biden and hasn’t agreed to disarmament now, but has agreed to a ceasefire and hostage release as it was willing to do when Biden was president. Exactly like the Israeli negotiator said. And all the rest of this is irrelevant. What has **Hamas** agreed to that they hadn’t agreed to before? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/93 "2025-10-14T17:07:07Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Seems like what Hamas agreed to under Biden _is_ the same thing they’ve agreed to so far under Trump. Israel got back all the living hostages after only pulling out of half, or a little less, of Gaza: [Center for American Progress](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/peace-in-gaza-hopefully-but-not-assuredly/) > [@](#): > > As of October 10, 2025, Israel and Hamas have both conditionally [accepted](https://v/) U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. Negotiations on the implementation arrangement [produced](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/08/us/politics/trump-mideast-visit-israel-gaza.html) an October 9 agreement on “phase one” of the plan, during which all Israeli hostages will be released in exchange for Palestinian prisoners and detainees, Israel will withdraw to an initial line that leaves it in control of [53 percent](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-to-retain-control-over-53-of-gaza-after-deal-is-ratified-officials-say/) of Gaza, and humanitarian assistance to Palestinians will be scaled up dramatically. Here’s what [PBS says about the 53 percent](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/gazans-and-israelis-celebrate-ceasefire-deal-with-hopes-for-lasting-peace): > [@](#): > > Over the next 24 hours, the Israeli military will withdraw to this yellow line inside of Gaza, giving them control of 53 percent of the Strip. Within 72 hours after that, Hamas must release all 48 living and deceased hostages, 20 of whom are believed to still be alive. > > Israel has also agreed to release nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners. The deal was sealed overnight in an Egyptian conference room with representatives from Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, and Hamas. Do you have a link showing Hamas agreeing “under Biden” to put off Israel leaving most (or any) of Gaza until after the hostage/prisoner exchange? I do not recall that. P.S. The yellow line map that Hamas was forced by Qatar to agree to (and that did not AFAIK exist during the Biden administration) can be seen in this link, as can mention of the next two agreed withdrawal stages (40 percent, then 15 percent): [Foreign Affairs](https://www.cfr.org/article/guide-trumps-twenty-point-gaza-peace-deal) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/94 "2025-10-14T17:18:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > So in other words, Hamas didn’t agree to disarmament under Biden and hasn’t agreed to disarmament now, but has agreed to a ceasefire and hostage release as it was willing to do when Biden was president. Uh, what? No, not at all. Before they would only agree to implement Phase 1 if Israel guaranteed ahead of time that it would implement its part of Phase 2 without Hamas disarming. Now they agreed to implement Phase 1 and negotiate Phase 2 later. > [@Gyrate](#): > > What has **Hamas** agreed to that they hadn’t agreed to before? Releasing the hostages without a guarantee that they’ll be allowed to stay armed. Before, they would not agree to anything unless part of that agreement was that the war would end with them armed. Now, they agreed to release the hostages and have a ceasefire without any such guarantee. I’m really lost as to what is unclear about this. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/95 "2025-10-14T17:35:39Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I’m really lost as to what is confusing about this. This claim that the same agreement was available “under Biden” appears to me an evidence-free instant progressive orthodoxy. I can only guess that it feels to some that if you admit that something different was available “under Trump,” you just made an enormous admission that Trump is a Peace-Prize deserving wonderful guy, In reality, the Middle East does not revolve around who is POTUS. Trump is going to claim credit for any peace move in the world, as illustrated by his statements about having ended eight wars this year. During the Biden administration, some of the Palestinians released yesterday were not yet held by Israel. This is only a small detail if you are not one of the parties. Circumstances changed, as did terms being discussed, or not discussed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/96 "2025-10-14T19:33:29Z")
So, as i see it, Hamas has not agreed to disarm, and Israel has not agreed to pull out of Gaza. What’s new this time is that Hamas was willing to return the remaining hostages in exchange for a partial, and probably temporary, Israeli withdrawal. And i suspect that’s at least partly because the hostages have become a liability to them. There is a segment of “support for Israel” that’s really about “getting the hostages back”. Without those hostages still in Hamas’ hands, Israel actions against Gaza look less and less justified to many outsiders. (Outsiders who have been supporting Israel.) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/97 "2025-10-14T20:08:26Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > So, as i see it, Hamas has not agreed to disarm, and Israel has not agreed to pull out of Gaza. Correct. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > What’s new this time is that Hamas was willing to return the remaining hostages in exchange for a partial, and probably temporary, Israeli withdrawal. Also correct. Hamas is, of course, completely in control of whether this withdrawal by Israel will be permanent or temporary. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > And i suspect that’s at least partly because the hostages have become a liability to them. There is a segment of “support for Israel” that’s really about “getting the hostages back”. That was all true on Oct 8. If that was how Hamas thought, they’d have released the hostages immediately. Hamas agreed to release the hostages because of immense pressure from Qatar and Turkey. The question now is whether Trump has enough international support to implement the next phase of the plan: creating an interim governing board and the ISF and having Israel start handing over control of Gaza to this new body. If he can actually make that happen, it really doesn’t matter if Hamas agrees to disarm or not. Israel can slowly displace Hamas and replace it with the ISF. The real question is, how on board with are Turkey, Qatar, and Egypt? If they’re actually willing to cut off Hamas and lend manpower to the ISF, then not only could this war finally be over, but this could be the biggest step towards a two state solution that’s happened in my lifetime. If they were willing to play along and pressure Hamas to accept a ceasefire, but no more - then this is sure to drag on. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/98 "2025-10-14T20:09:01Z")
There is now sporadic fighting between Hamas and non-Hamas Gazan militias. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/99 "2025-10-14T20:15:13Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Full headline: I followed the link, but I cant find that story. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708/100 "2025-10-14T20:40:48Z")
That’s basically all there was at the time. According to NBC News Radio, IDF issued a Xit claiming responsibility for the deaths of some Palestinians who had violated a … whatever the warfare equivalent is of a restraining order is. ETA: IDF has also been telling Gaza residents (paraphrased) to stay the hell away from them. ETATA: [here’s an article.](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/amid-ceasefire-israeli-forces-killed-6-palestinians-gaza-civil-defence-9456225) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-trump-get-credit-if-theres-a-gaza-peace-deal-will-the-deal-hold-and-will-trump-continue-to-support-it/1023708.md?page=6)