It’s not the “Armored” part of an AFV that’s the impediment; it’s the “Fighting” part. Machineguns, light cannon, or even heavy cannon are typically “demilled,” or rendered inoperative with a hard, permanent barrel plug of some sort.
Most of the actual, operational, privately-owned AV’s I’ve seen have been in the nature of restored WWII era relics like an M3 Half-Track. Some have mounted demilled machineguns, but most often they’re just painted wooden mock-ups.
But what about the war of 1812 when the well armed citizenry of DC took off running and let the dread Redcoats burn the capitol?
also, my dad worked for a rich Texas oilman back in the sixties who bought a half track with a working 50 cal and one of those little marine howitzers (you have to be a rich texas oilman or a subsidized egyptian islamist to afford the ammo) and i regret to this day they wouldn’t let me go out to the ranch with them and destroy old barns and trees, the pics were great…
That USAF guy didn’t say anything about spiking the guns, which I might be able to live with.
That leaves us with the mortars, artillery, etc. Must be ammo possession is illegal. It better be. And oh yeah- SAMs, Stingers and whatnot- where do they fit it?
Ugh. Just ugh.
And I guess the TX wacko got some kind of waiver or exemption on the “impediments” mentioned in post #21.
I think you are seriousy kidding yourself if you think scorched earth would be necessary for the government to stay in power. I might even try to help the government out, you know, like infiltrate the ranks of the bozarts and the yahoos and then put a slug in one or more of them they aren’t expecting it. Why would I do that? Because this, my beloved country, still the best place for the most people which has ever existed, is worth killing for.
The Rich Law Waiver is probably the one he had, laws are for the 47%.
We ought to worry about changing our way sick culture stead of the 2nd amendment, United States of Americans are the 1st people in history to love violence for it’s own sake, I mean my countrymen wallow in fantasy mayhem 24/7 then holler willie willie when somebody rubs their face in the real thing.
What do you think the Romans did in the coliseum?
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It’s not necessary to find a cite giving permission as they were never actually banned, just classed in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms Act of 1934 by the powers that be. That’s like asking me for a cite where the government has given me permission to own a shotgun. It doesn’t exist.
??? I thought for sure shoulder-launched SAMs like the Stinger were illegal.
Well if that’s true, it should be changed. Stinger missiles, RPG’s, Anti-tank weapons and Patriot systems should be freely available to any citizen. There should be no government interference with freedom to bear arms. There should be no tracking or registration of these sort of personal defense systems, otherwise the government could come and take them away.
Everyone should be free to buy whatever they feel is an appropriate defense system for their home.
The 2nd amendment should protect the right to own any sort of arms.
It took me about twenty seconds to discover that such things are in fact illegal in many states, and anywhere in the USA take a lot more than just cash to legally acquire.
It took me less than 20 seconds to find out that weapons not specifically banned are perfectly legal, and I didn’t say anything about acquisition, just possession.
Surely the 2nd amendment is about acquisition just as much as possession. Otherwise, it would be a toothless provision.
If the restrictions/hoops to jump through currently in place on Destructive Devices* are not in breach of the 2nd amendment, couldn’t similar restrictions/hoops to jump through be applied to firearms in general and still not be in breach of the 2nd amendment?
*Capialized here to avoid confusion because it’s a term of art.
You didn’t say anything about acquisition?
What does “get” mean again?
It means that if you have the cash you don’t care that they’re banned in California because you can buy them from your residence in Pennsylvania. If you can get them legally they are by definition not banned. Are they cost-prohibitive? Absolutely. Is the government required to sell them to you? Absolutely not. But, to repeat, if you can get your hands on one it’s perfectly legal.
So, in fact, you did say something about acquisition. That’s what “get” means.
But that said, I am baffled by your apparent belief that if you can just acquire something legally it’s never illegal to possess it. Again, this stuff is not hard to find; in a matter of minutes I almost at random found state after state that make it specifically ILLEGAL to possess things classed as Destructive Devices. They are illegal to possess in California, New Jersey, Missouri…
One other thing… with rights come responsibilities, am I right? So it stands to reason that folks should not only have the right to bear arms, but should have the responsibility to bear arms.
Every citizen should be issued with a handgun, preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable and can take a clip of 33 with no problem. I was going to say that everyone over 15 should get one, but given recent shootings in elementary schools, this should be reduced to 10 years old.
Citizens can take training courses if they desire, but under no circumstances should they be forced to. This would go against their freedoms.
Citizens would be required to carry their pistol at all times, full loaded. Police would be able to give tickets to scofflaws who fail to comply.
This would make for a very safe society.
I thought that things like SAM’s were manufactured by private industry, not by “the government”. I should be able to buy whatever I want from a private company. The Stinger FIM-92 is made by Raytheon, not by “the government”.
Yes, but the government has something of a vested interest in making sure it, and only it, is handing out Stingers to people who might use them in ways we don’t like.