# Should we attack Iran? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 15, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775 "2012-09-15T07:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/261 "2012-09-29T00:31:52Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Is “yes” supposed to be the wrong answer here? I was also confused by the references to North Korea. I think most of us think preventing North Korea from getting nukes would be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/262 "2012-09-29T00:44:25Z")
Well, after seeing this impressive illustration of [**the bomb Iran’s about to get**](http://media.salon.com/2012/09/netanyahu_un_bomb_cartoon_2012_09_28-460x307.jpg), I can certainly understand why Israel’s P.M. is shitting his pants. That’s some “sooper-doooper-secret-inside-Mossad-intel” you’ve got there, Bibi! You made this [**this guy**](http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/6/colin-powell.jpg) look like a rank amateur. Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/263 "2012-09-29T12:31:59Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > You made this [**this guy**](http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/6/colin-powell.jpg) look like a rank amateur. Fool me once, shame on you - try to fool me twice, you present your d@mn evidence. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/264 "2012-09-29T18:49:56Z")
More cartoons for the masses. Kind of reminds me of [bin ladens mountain lair](http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=bin+laden+caves&tnr=21&vid=5035858454642702&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D5035858454642702%26id%3Dbf6368ff3d34ca41bf6cae6d6e7b9bd9%26bid%3DaPosQ2bgk%252f2kPg%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.youtube.com%252fwatch%253fv%253dFGhGHxw0mSo&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFGhGHxw0mSo&sigr=11a78jca9&newfp=1&tit=Bin+Ladens+Cave+according+to+Rumsfeld). The worst part is people actually believe this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/265 "2012-09-29T19:42:34Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > …Here, I’ll repeat for you what a false flag is:An example of a false flag operation using something you seem to want to believe those sneaky Jews are planning would be if Israel sank an Iranian submarine while somehow convincing everyone that they were Americans so that Israel would avoid blame and frame America for the sinking. Seeing as how submarines operate, I’m at a loss as to how this would even be possible. Agreed, I’m not sure where the poster was going with that either. Walls of text are hard to sort anyway. IMHO, a better example for the poster would be an Israeli submarine laying captured ex-Soviet Bloc mines in the Straits of Hormuz or the Persian Gulf. They’ve quiet submarines and I imagine they’ve captured mines identical to those that would be used by Iran. Altering their torpedo tubes to launch those mines would take some lengthy work though. In any event if it worked, merchant shipping or—ideally—USN warships would hit those mines, Iran would be blamed, (not like it would be the first time that [Iran has tried to mine the Gulf](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis)) and those diabolical Jews could sit back and laugh as the U.S. turned the Iranian nuclear program to rubble. Along with the effect on world oil prices if the Straits were to be [closed for a week to ten days](http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/monster-machines-seafox-mine-sweeper-will-destroy-irans-explosives/). (Estimate at bottom of cite) Whether they think they could plant the mines without being observed—not at all a given in a waterway [as observed as the Straits](http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/meast/bahrain-minesweeping-exercise/index.html)—and more importantly, be able to keep the whole thing quiet for the next 75 years or so, is another question. I doubt Israel would choose to take that kind of risk, with those kinds of downsides. But it would be a false flag, if I am reading your definition correctly. My answer to the OP, as an American, is ‘No, the U.S. should not attack Iran.’ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/266 "2012-09-30T02:11:35Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Well, after seeing this impressive illustration of [**the bomb Iran’s about to get**](http://media.salon.com/2012/09/netanyahu_un_bomb_cartoon_2012_09_28-460x307.jpg), I can certainly understand why Israel’s P.M. is shitting his pants. My favorite comment on this so far (from another forum) is “So Wile E. Coyote is Netanyahu’s new Defense Minister?” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/267 "2012-09-30T14:35:32Z")
It’s from _The Daily Show_ (though not an exact quote). ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/268 "2012-09-30T15:22:32Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s from _The Daily Show_ (though not an exact quote). I’m seeing wide enough variations on the joke (in multiple languages even) that I think that multiple people came up with the Wile E. Coyote comparison. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775/269 "2012-09-30T23:46:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s from _The Daily Show_ (though not an exact quote). The New Yorker made it a trending topic with their #[**BibiBombCaption**](http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/2012/09/netanyahu-caption-contest.html) contest. There’s some funny stuff up on Tweeter. [**That Bibi, he’s the bomb.**](http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/2012/09/netanyahu-caption-contest-the-winners.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-attack-iran/634775.md?page=13)