Should we ban the ideology of Nazism/White Supremacy?

[Reddy_Mercury]

No ideologies should be “banned”. What happens if someone comes along and decides Liberalism needs to be banned?

[Lumpy]

@Reddy_Mercury

No ideologies should be “banned”. What happens if someone comes along and decides Liberalism needs to be banned?

Doubtless someone will come along with a patient explanation of why Liberalism meets an objective standard of universal decency, thus putting it above a mere “ideology”. ( :rolleyes: )

[ralfy]

Reminds me of Popper’s views concerning tolerance:

Paradox of tolerance

[Leaper]

@Bone

As long as white supremacy and Nazism is limited to spoken words, demonstrations, etc. consistent with rules for permits, then I regard it as political opinion.

This, I think, is another fundamental difference that greatly affects this whole discussion.

Thanks for the link in the following post; I’d been curious about the legal angle, and it seems like a great place to start.

[Stringbean]

There is a petition on Change.org to criminalize the display of Nazi symbols, including tattoos.

[Quartz]

Pity the Hindus, then, for whom the swastika has a very different meaning.

However, I have a cunning plan - trademark the Nazi logos. Then trademark law can be used against those who use the swastika in a Naz style.

[Velocity]

One thing that should *not *be done is stabbing someone just because their hairstyle looks like a neo-Nazi’s.

[drachillix]

@Stringbean

Others might suggest that, due to their nature, Nazism and white supremacy are not just “bad ideas,” but rather ideas that fundamentally espouse violence toward others. They would point to the incident in Charlottesville as the “natural consequence” of these ideologies.

Fundamentally incorrect.

Im pretty sure that just about every flavor of WS/Nazi in the US would be very content to see everyone they dislike voluntarily leave the country without a single incident of violence.

[HurricaneDitka]

@Quartz

… However, I have a cunning plan - trademark the Nazi logos. Then trademark law can be used against those who use the swastika in a Naz style.

I think you’re too late:

After Supreme Court Decision, People Race To Trademark Racially Offensive Words

Trademark for n-word, swastika filed after legal ruling

People are filing trademark applications to “own” the swastika and the n-word

ETA: looks like someone had your exact plan, but it sounds like it’s a no-go:

However, it is unclear whether Mr Maynard would have the ability to prove that there is any sort of connection between the swastika and Snowflake enterprises which would prove strong enough to justify him being granted the trademark. Such a well-known – and infamous – symbol will likely be considered much too broadly used to be applicable for trademark status.

[Bryan_Ekers]

I wouldn’t bother banning the ideology, but I would make it a requirement for first-grade science classes to mention melanin and its function, at least in general terms.

[Leaper]

@drachillix

Fundamentally incorrect.

Im pretty sure that just about every flavor of WS/Nazi in the US would be very content to see everyone they dislike voluntarily leave the country without a single incident of violence.

They wouldn’t mind, no. But I honestly wonder which they’d PREFER.

[Joanie_Loves_Trotsky]

No ideology should be banned.

Direct calls for violence or violent rhetoric are one thing, but as has been said ad nauseum, it is a slippery slope, and when you can ban one ideology, any ideology can be fair game for being banned.