# Should we be working harder to educate the Muslim world about free speech? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 14, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714 "2012-09-14T19:09:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/101 "2012-09-15T14:18:26Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I do not believe in killing any innocents, but I don’t think that should stand in the way of killing terrorists. I only intend to say that we should not let fear of collateral damage stand in the way of killing our enemies when we know where they are. Again, to a significant extent this is already happening. Plenty of drone strikes have either killed the wrong people or killed some suspected terrorists and some innocents. There are probably some situations where drone strikes are not authorized because of the risk of hurting innocent people, but in general that possibility is not preventing heavy use of drone strikes. > [@](#): > > I may be wrong, but I believe we know the location of many terrorists and kill them at a rate of 10 to 1 for each attack against an American, almost instantly. I think made up numbers are a poor basis for an argument, and the drone attacks are rarely done in response to attacks. If the U.S. believes it has solid information about where a terrorist is, he gets targeted. > [@](#): > > It’s more important to me to stop the killing of innocent Americans than worry about the minority of Libyans who could be called innocent. Given your lack of interest in what’s happening in the Middle East, your conclusion that most Libyans are “guilty” (or what, not liking America enough?) is worthless. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > I was wondering if its possible to can get their religious book modified through UN through an effort lead by some country like Brazil or Japan which considered neutral by everyone in this regard. This idea is totally useless and silly on every level. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/102 "2012-09-15T14:21:21Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Not completely rewirting, just adding a couple of sentences for secularism and deleting some stuff regarding women, homosexuals, and minorities. Oh, my apologies. You merely suggested a partial rewrite - basically just a minor bit of _editing_ - to the Koran. That’s perfectly reasonable and i’m sure there would be zero people at all offended or incensed by the idea. [QUOTE=Rune] We don’t have to convince them of anything since what they believe in is only of secondary concern; it is how they behave that is the issue. So if they were confronted on a daily basis with things that is a challenge to their beliefs then supposedly eventually they’d get used to it and don’t go into retard mode over some random stuff they dig up on the bottom of the Internet. But in any case the Internet is full of stuff that is a much worse affront to Islam than this movie or the previous cartoons, so I’m not sure it works that way. It’s more like they want a nice riot and then they go find some random thing to riot about. [/QUOTE] I’m not entirely convinced. I think, simply, access to information, especially on an individual level, is a good idea - the other part is that people would have to know that such information was avaliable to look for, but that’s a secondary issue - rather than, as seems to be the case here, certain people deliberately selecting which things to show in order to stir up a reaction. Information arrived at by yourself is always going to be much more convincing than anything else, especially when one of those elses is from people you might already mistrust. IOW, what you said, except less “bombardment with things they dislike” and more “access to context”. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/103 "2012-09-15T14:43:19Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > No. But more people could join. And the violence could be intensified. > > “We’ll just insult them in order to convince them of their wrongness!” is a plan which I feel reasonably confident in saying has never once worked. I was going to go on about how bad an idea it was, except it has now been beaten by the idea of literally attempting to rewrite the Koran. Seriously; these are not good ideas. I must confess I can’t think of a way that would help; but i’m not so desperate to come up with some way that i’ll grasp at a plan that would make things worse. Based on your argument Martin Luther King Jr should have known his place and kept his mouth shut so as not to offend others and avoid unnecessary bloodshed. And his namesake shouldn’t have nailed his manifesto to the door of a church. I’ll keep repeating this until it sinks in, we didn’t thrust this movie upon anyone. It was on the internet along with an unlimited number of other things that are insulting to Muslims. The Muslims who are most vocal about their objections live in Islamic nations based on Sharia Law where other religions are sitting in the back of the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/104 "2012-09-15T14:56:30Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Based on your argument Martin Luther King Jr should have known his place and kept his mouth shut so as not to offend others and avoid unnecessary bloodshed. And his namesake shouldn’t have nailed his manifesto to the door of a church. “Keeping one’s mouth shut” is not the same thing as “not insulting people”. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t base his activism on spewing pig-ignorant offensive lies about the despicable contemptible antecedents of white people. Nor did Martin Luther’s 95 theses consist of hurling scurrilous insults at Church officials. I’m certainly not arguing that pig-ignorant offensive lies about Muslims should be suppressed or shouldn’t fall into the category of protected speech, or that violent reactions to them should be condoned in any way. But **Revenant Threshold** ’s point is spot-on that insulting people with pig-ignorant offensive lies about them just increases acrimony, doesn’t change anybody’s mind, and isn’t necessary for meaningful exchange of opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/105 "2012-09-15T14:58:49Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Stop murdering innocent people, exploiting those less powerful, propping up dictators and so on; then wait a generation or two for our victims and their immediate relatives to die or grow old and tired. A great idea! And when more planes fly into buildings in the meantime? And all Americans everywhere brought home to avoid making them targets in the meantime, which seems somewhat problematic. As for drone strikes, what’s the saying? You can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs. If we send out ten drones to take out 10 known terrorists (as in, people we KNOW to be engaged in terrorist activities) and 9 of them do their job, then the 10th kills folks at a wedding, then that is regrettable and we should improve our technology and training, but not stop drone strikes. ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/106 "2012-09-15T15:16:40Z")
> [@moejoe](#): > > It is also my contention that a strategy that includes maybe kinda spewing a little bit less offensive hate at them will be more successful at reducing this violence than will a strategy of convincing them that they’re wrong. How would you implement this strategy, pray tell? 1. If it is on a purely voluntary basis, there will always be a few people who will refuse to play along, and as you can see, all it takes is one crappy movie by a handful of people on a shoestring budget to set off the Islamists. 2. If the strategy of not offending Islam is legally sanctioned, what you will in fact be doing is giving in to Muslim demands for world-wide blasphemy laws and consorship of religious criticism. Then you will have sent the Islamist baboons a message that violence works, and will encourage them to believe that their Sharia values are indeed meant to be universally applied. The abject surrender of our western freedom to Islmaist violence will make the Islamist troglodytes heroes in the Muslim world. Smart strategy that! ---
**Author:** ![AdanTheSomali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ba0ec/32.png) [@AdanTheSomali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AdanTheSomali)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/107 "2012-09-15T15:20:09Z")
Fortify American embassies in Middle Eastern countries, expel foreign security guards and hire only highly trained American security specialists. Ignore the handful of baboons rioting in the Muslim world, they are being given too much attention and if you surrender an inch to a mob of angry Islamists they will try to take an entire dar al Harb. ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/108 "2012-09-15T15:58:47Z")
Unless I have missed it somewhere in this thread, nobody seems to have used the “A” word that is at the centre of this entire controversy: **appeasement**. Basically, every suggestion that we in the west rein in our freedom of expression to avoid provoking the rabid dogs of Islamism is nothing more nor less than appeasement. Every time we give in, there will be a new demand. Churchill knew it when he saw it in the 1930s. He saw the Nazis for what they were and he knew where appeasement leads. He called it a “slippery slope”. Interestingly enough, during the 1930s, people like Churchill were condemned as Germanophobic old cranks out of touch with reality while the apostles of appeasement were seen as modern men of peace and reasonableness. There are right now ongoing demands at the UN, mainly from Muslim countries with some support from some non-Mulsim states they have bought off, for some kind of world-wide system of suppression against expressions of opinion deemed to be offensive to Islam or to religions in general. What would happen to people like [Ayaan Hirsi Ali](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali), the brave and beautiful woman who is an apostate from Islam and from Muslim misogyny, who now lives with 24-7 protection, even though she lives in the west? When this wom,an speaks at university campuses in the the west, she already faces demands for censorship and exclusions from Muslim Student Associations. If we give in to Islamist violence now, even if it is to defend a truly ridiculous and crappy movie like the “Innocence of Muslims”, how long will it be before we agree to surpress people like Hirsi Ali to avoid violence? Appeasement never satisfies the Islamist. It simply confirms that he is ready for the next demand and the next step towards the ultimate mandate given to Mohammed by Allah, namely, to fight until all the world is under Islam. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/109 "2012-09-15T15:59:57Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This idea is totally useless and silly on every level. > [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Oh, my apologies. You merely suggested a partial rewrite - basically just a minor bit of _editing_ - to the Koran. That’s perfectly reasonable and i’m sure there would be zero people at all offended or incensed by the idea. Call leading mullahs of all Islamic nations to the UN for an International debate on quran in an effort led by say Japan, don’t tell them that you intend to edit/secularize it. Ask them what’s the difference between teachings of Jesus, Buddh etc and those of Muhammad. Obviously they won’t be able to tell any because there isn’t any. Then propose to add those couple of sentences and convince them what enormous difference will it make to world peace, then seek concensus. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/110 "2012-09-15T16:10:43Z")
> [@Valteron](#): > > Unless I have missed it somewhere in this thread, nobody seems to have used the “A” word that is at the centre of this entire controversy: **appeasement**. Perhaps posters were hoping to be able to discuss the issue at hand without Godwinizing the thread and suggesting their opponents wouldn’t stand up to genocide. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Call leading mullahs of all Islamic nations to the UN for an International debate on quran The ones you’re hoping to reach are the ones who wouldn’t participate. I’m sure your heart is in the right place, but this fails on every single level. Sorry. Religious leaders don’t compromise their authority this way, and proposing changes to the Quran is very blasphemous. Even liberal Muslims would agree on that. Christian leaders wouldn’t let someone else rewrite the Bible, Jews wouldn’t let you rewrite the Torah, and Muslims wouldn’t approve rewriting the Quran. > [@](#): > > Ask them what’s the difference between teachings of Jesus, Buddh etc and those of Muhammad. There are enormous differences between all three. Buddha and Jesus didn’t mention Muhammad, you know. There’s that. > [@](#): > > Obviously they won’t be able to tell any because there isn’t any. Except there are lots. Or are you proposing that if you gave them an altered version of the Quran, they wouldn’t notice- like in the Folgers crystals commercial? ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/111 "2012-09-15T16:11:10Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Call leading mullahs of all Islamic nations to the UN for an International debate on quran in an effort led by say Japan, don’t tell them that you intend to edit/secularize it. Ask them what’s the difference between teachings of Jesus, Buddh etc and those of Muhammad. Obviously they won’t be able to tell any because there isn’t any. Then propose to add those couple of sentences and convince them what enormous difference will it make to world peace, then seek concensus. Saying that the teachings of Buddha and Mohammed are the same is a statement so unbelievebaly, incredibly bat-shit crazy that I will not even START to try to disprove it because I could be writing into next week. If you think all religions preach identical values, you are just unbelievably misinformed. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/112 "2012-09-15T16:12:58Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > “Keeping one’s mouth shut” is not the same thing as “not insulting people”. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t base his activism on spewing pig-ignorant offensive lies about the despicable contemptible antecedents of white people. Nor did Martin Luther’s 95 theses consist of hurling scurrilous insults at Church officials. > > I’m certainly not arguing that pig-ignorant offensive lies about Muslims should be suppressed or shouldn’t fall into the category of protected speech, or that violent reactions to them should be condoned in any way. > > But **Revenant Threshold** ’s point is spot-on that insulting people with pig-ignorant offensive lies about them just increases acrimony, doesn’t change anybody’s mind, and isn’t necessary for meaningful exchange of opinions. To start with you don’t know the movie is pig-ignorant lies. This has not been established. It’s blasphemous to Islam but then about everything is. And again, I point out that it was not spewed on anybody. It’s mere existence is in question. You’re essentially concerning yourself with the thought police. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/113 "2012-09-15T16:16:32Z")
Not to derail the thread, but, wouldn’t it be a good idea to first list what exactly did US do in Middle East to promote democracy. You know, like a catalog — for, say, last 20 years — a catalog of concrete actions publicly available that one can take a look at and say, darn it, you really tried and those b@stards would not take it. The action, of course, whose motivations and outcomes can sustain an independent scrutiny. To make it feasible I’m interested in actually JUST ONE. Please… ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/114 "2012-09-15T16:23:46Z")
thid > [@Marley23](#): > > Perhaps posters were hoping to be able to discuss the issue at hand without Godwinizing the thread and suggesting their opponents wouldn’t stand up to genocide. > > The ones you’re hoping to reach are the ones who wouldn’t participate. I’m sure your heart is in the right place, but this fails on every single level. Sorry. Religious leaders don’t compromise their authority this way, and proposing changes to the Quran is very blasphemous. Even liberal Muslims would agree on that. Christian leaders wouldn’t let someone else rewrite the Bible, Jews wouldn’t let you rewrite the Torah, and Muslims wouldn’t approve rewriting the Quran. > > There are enormous differences between all three. Buddha and Jesus didn’t mention Muhammad, you know. There’s that. > > Except there are lots. Or are you proposing that if you gave them an altered version of the Quran, they wouldn’t notice- like in the Folgers crystals commercial? > [@Valteron](#): > > Saying that the teachings of Buddha and Mohammed are the same is a statement so unbelievebaly, incredibly bat-shit crazy that I will not even START to try to disprove it because I could be writing into next week. > > If you think all religions preach identical values, you are just unbelievably misinformed. We know that Jesus, Buddh and Muhammad were enlightened souls, that is they had realized their true selves. We know that all such noble men preach the same thing to all which is that God/Allah resides within each one of us, that we must lose our egos to realize our true self and that weare the same as God. I am sure each religion say this same thing in essance, try n take this line f arguement. I think we will have a reasonable chance to succeed. What do you say? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/115 "2012-09-15T16:27:56Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > Not to derail the thread, but, wouldn’t it be a good idea to first list what exactly did US do in Middle East to promote democracy. > > You know, like a catalog — for, say, last 20 years — a catalog of concrete actions publicly available that one can take a look at and say, darn it, you really tried and those b@stards would not take it. > > The action, of course, whose motivations and outcomes can sustain an independent scrutiny. > > To make it feasible I’m interested in actually JUST ONE. > > Please… Not to derail your thread derailment but feel free to start your own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/116 "2012-09-15T16:31:33Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > To start with you don’t know the movie is pig-ignorant lies. This has not been established. Sorry, I should have specified that the movie **trailer** is pig-ignorant lies. It seems reasonable to conclude that the movie as a whole, if it exists as a whole, is unlikely to be any better, but that is not yet proven. > [@Magiver](#): > > You’re essentially concerning yourself with the thought police. No, the thought police are the ones who advocate **punishing** or **suppressing** offensive speech. I don’t think anybody here is suggesting any such thing. **Criticizing** offensive speech, however, and explaining why it’s offensive, are perfectly fine in a free society. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/117 "2012-09-15T16:33:08Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > We know that Jesus, Buddh and Muhammad were enlightened souls, that is they had realized their true selves. We know that all such noble men preach the same thing to all which is that God/Allah resides within each one of us Not even close. Islamic scripture does speak highly of Jesus but I don’t think Buddha’s teachings are compatible with Islam in general. > [@](#): > > I think we will have a reasonable chance to succeed. What do you say? No, you don’t. You’re not explaining the details of your conference, but regardless, _you can’t edit the Quran._ > [@Kimstu](#): > > Sorry, I should have specified that the movie **trailer** is pig-ignorant lies. Parts of it might be. I don’t know that every bit of it is. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/118 "2012-09-15T16:44:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Islamic scripture does speak highly of Jesus but I don’t think Buddha’s teachings are compatible with Islam in general. Not that I want to encourage **truthseeker2** ’s well-meaning but misguided efforts at extreme ecumenism here, but there’s more connection between Buddhism and Islam than you might think. Sufi philosophy is significantly influenced by Central Asian and South Asian Buddhist traditions, although you’re quite right that classical Sunni and Shi`a traditions, especially in the extreme Salafi/Deobandi forms, are not easily reconcilable with Buddhist thought. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/119 "2012-09-15T16:52:57Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Sufi philosophy is significantly influenced by Central Asian and South Asian Buddhist traditions I understand that. But of course hardline Sunnis and Shia would consider them to be unbearable infidels or apostates. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714/120 "2012-09-15T17:06:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Not even close. Islamic scripture does speak highly of Jesus but I don’t think Buddha’s teachings are compatible with Islam in general. > > No, you don’t. You’re not explaining the details of your conference, but regardless, _you can’t edit the Quran._ > > Parts of it might be. I don’t know that every bit of it is. you know, I live in India and here I get to listen to spiritual gurus of Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sufism(Islamic) in local language. Having listened to them, one can notice all of them preach the same thing, the things that I wrote in last post. So that is for sure the commonality and ultimate objective of all religions. This is why I thought if this could be reflected in their religious book, it could bring world peace. Maybe its not possible, But worth a try imo.🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-be-working-harder-to-educate-the-muslim-world-about-free-speech/634714.md?page=7)