Should we get a budgie?

“lutino” or “ino”. It means he’s missing his melanin colors - the blacks, browns, greys, etc. Actually, it looks like he might be an albino variant. Hard to say going by just the pictures.

That means he has been hand tamed or at least hand trained, but of course he’s nervous around strangers and being in a new environment. However, the fact he was willing to sit on strange fingers at all is a good sign.

When they’re nervous or afraid they tend not to eat heartily. The “eat a couple bites and disappear” is actually normal, cautious behavior for a prey animal. Likewise, he’ll be a little suspicious of anything when you first put it in the cage. These are normal parrot instincts (he is a little parrot, you know). Give him a bit of time to check things out.

My flock has been with me nearly all their lives, trust me a great deal, but will still often avoid a new toy in their cage for a couple days before they start interacting with it.

Good call.

If possible, you could put the new cage next to his current cage for a day - that gives him a chance to look it over so it’s not a totally new and strange object.

For the first day, when he’s going to be slightly off his feed anyway, it won’t hurt.

Another good call - that way he can look you over while still feeling safe.

Parrots that are fed and content will grind their beaks - that’s actually a good thing, it helps keep it sharp. Mine will frequently eat, then settle onto their perches for a bit of beak grinding before taking a nap. So maybe that’s what he was doing. Or he was, in fact, making clicking noises. The fact he’s making noises is probably a good sign - a really nervous and upset/sacred bird may be entirely silent so as to not attract attention (instinct again - don’t want to be noticed by the scary predators).

Also a good sign.

Probably. A good 10-12 hours a day of sleeping is normal and good for parrots. He’s also still growing/developing and needs his rest as well as stimulation.

Very much debatable. I don’t use sandpaper perches, in no small part because my boys would probably destroy them and you don’t want the bird eating sandpaper. The purposes is to keep their toenails from overgrowing. Me, I get my birds nails trimmed. Mr. Broomstick and I used to do this this as a team but I find it very difficult to impossible to do on my own so I now take them to a vet for that sort of thing.

It depends.

If you have a drafty house yes, cover the cage. If you’re undecided cover the top half of the cage, leaving the bars exposed at the bottom, and Morty can decide. I’ve also mentioned this I have a box inside the cage so that gives the birds another option. I have two the prefer to sleep on a perch and one that likes to be in something (he’s more a more tropical species and gets chilly easier than the other two).

If he has “night terrors” - wakes up at night making noise and flailing around the cage - turn a light on so he can see where he is. Although parrots see better than we do in most circumstances their night/low light vision is terrible compared to ours and waking up in a strange place unable to see is, needless to say, quite upsetting. Some owners keep a nightlight near the cage to help with this, but you don’t want it bright enough to disturb their sleep.

This article might be helpful in learning how to get your budgie to perch on your hand, come out of the cage, and related activities.

He’s still alive!

I poked my hand into the cage and gently touched him just in front of his legs, and he hopped up onto my finger by instinct but then immediately vacated it. I did that perhaps twice more, then decided to quit pestering him.

We did cover the cage overnight. Dunno how much light there was in the room - maybe I’ll leave the kitchen light on tonight.

He hasn’t gone near the Snak Shak (edible - sawdust based) perch yet - it’s just above a regular wooden perch and he ducks his head and walks underneath it.

I looked at the millet and while the bit right at head level is reduced a bit, it doesn’t look like he’s totally pigged out.

The cleaner couldn’t tell me which brand of food to get so I just got 2 different brands that looked like what was in the bowlful she brought.

BTW - a friend was here yesterday when Morty arrived, and held him briefly, and was pleased that Morty didn’t go for her eyes - she’s had other birds be fascinated by her blue eyes. Then I ran into your old thread from 2009 or so, and your husband’s quote “No, you can’t have my eyeballs, not until I’m done with using them.” OH, but they’re so shiny!

had me literally laughing out loud.

Probably coincidence, but my husband also had blue eyes…

Morty seems to be settling in better. He’s done a fair bit of chirruping today, and just now when there were 3 of us talking, he really started chirping and even squawked a couple of times. I think he likes hearing voices.

He’s just about got me conditioned that “chirp” means I say “Morty’s a good boy!”.

I tried leaving his cage door open and sitting by it for a bit. He didn’t approach the door which is no surprise.

He seems have eaten the carrot sliver I left for him yesterday. I gave him a small celery leaf today - that’s still there.

The big cage arrived today. We’re hoping to get it put together over the weekend. Transitioning should be interesting - the only door to the current cage is a small one that just fits my hand. I guess we’ll have to sit by the door for hours until he emerges on his own.

I love this thread. :smiley: It sounds like Morty is slowly settling in!

If he’s making noise that means he’s settling in.

Birds seem to like to participate in conversations.

He’s already training you to do tricks? Good bird!

He’s adorable. I’m glad he’s settling in. :smiley:

His new cage arrived Friday. I got it all set up, with toys etc., and it was sitting in the kitchen. I was going to move it down the 2 steps to the family room and sit it near his current cage, perhaps do the “open doors together trick”.

Meanwhile, I’ve been periodically poking my hand into the small cage, and putting a finger next to him on the perch. He’ll step on it instinctively, then immediately bolt.

Well, yesterday, I did this - and he stayed! so I decided to try carefully moving my hand out of the cage - and then he bolted. We got him semi-cornered in one part of the room; we stayed near him with some spray millet on a plate to try to entice him out, but no go. Finally I kept one escape route blocked off while my friend blocked the other. I moved, Morty panicked and headed the other way, and my friend managed to catch him.

So, since he was out already, we put him in the new cage. He’s still suspicious as hell; if I put my hand in, he has PLENTY of places to bolt to, and I don’t want to torture the poor fellow, so I’ll give him a few more days before I persist. I think he likes some of the toys, and today we spotted him eating out of one of the elevated dishes (I’d left one on the floor of the cage since I wasn’t sure he knew to look elsewhere).

The photo was taken from above, through the open top. Today I moved the ladder so it more closely parallels the back of the cage, as I wasn’t sure how well he could climb the vertical bars (the sides have horizontal bars). I guess maybe in a day or two I should try leaving the top open while I’m sitting next to him.

BTW - today I cooked a few eggs to keep in the fridge. I told the household members "if you’re eating one, consider saving a sliver for the bird. Everyone is horrified at the idea of feeding an egg to a bird :D.

The perch that came with the cage is annoying. It’s designed to go side to side - but it’s too long even for that, so I forced it in at a bit of an angle. The perch that is supposed to go across the top when it’s opened is an OK length but it’s starting to split a bit at one of the end grooves. Oh well, I can always get more of the flexible rope perches. Maybe I’ll get one and leave it permanently attached to the flip-top bits.

We’re talking a lot around him, and practicing a specific phrase … though it’s a tossup as to whether his first phrase will be “Morty’s a good boy!”, the boop my computer makes when I get an instant message, or somebody belching :D.

Maybe my canary was just smart, but he never hit a window. When I left him out (always in the kitchen with everything closed; he lived in the kitchen), he mainly flew around the open area. A few times he perched atop the cupboards. He’d eventually go back into the cage by himself.

I guarantee the bird isn’t horrified by that - birds love eggs! And Morty eating a chicken egg is like us eating a cow, they aren’t closely related.

Leetle birds learn whistles really easily–try a wolf whistle and see how he does with that. Birbs tend to be little seed junkies but an all seed diet isn’t good for them, but I found out that the top of a bell pepper pulled out and pinned to the side of the cage with all the seeds available made an irresistable treat to my cockatiels back when I kept them and it’s more a veggie than a seed so there’s that.

Best of luck with Morty!

We’ve offered him bits of foods - a sliver of egg, a bit of carrot and so on and mostly he ignores them. I tried putting one into his seed bowl and threw it out after a couple hours. I think I’ll stick with putting the food in a separate bowl on the bottom of the cage - though I’ve tried that and he hasn’t noticed it yet. Not sure how to get him to notice such things - we might set one of the upper food bowls as his “treats” bowl (there are 3, so one can be seed, one water, and one treats).

He moves away from me when I sit by the cage :frowning: Mainly if he’s on the bottom of the cage, or on the big long perch. He will stay near(ish) if he’s on his long ladder ; even hops up and down the rungs nearest me. But clearly he has NO desire to be approached, even to put a hand in the cage for food or whatever. If I do, he moves as far away as he can. It was easier in the smaller cage because there were only the two perches, and not much floor room either, so I could get my hand in front of him easily and he’d step onto it (and of course immediately vacate it in utter horror!). I may have to have the cleaning lady help me figure out how to approach him / catch him w/o injuring him.

We’re continuing with repeating “Morty is a good boy” fairly frequently. He also hears “Morty bird” and smooching sounds a lot. I think he must be used to smooching sounds, as he definitely looks intrigued. I know it could be months before he starts mimicking anything.

He does burst out with chirrups and sometimes very cute squawks. And he’s right in the middle of things, so there are always people around, though we’ll want to move the cage - when we had the sooner-than-planned cage move, the big one was in the kitchen, and the planned spot is 2 steps down from there. I figure cage jostling will upset him, and it’s a 2-person job, so we’ll do that in a day or so. He’ll have a better view of me when that happens - the spot is about 5 feet away from where I work.

Little birds are naturally very cautious. You can’t train that out of them, it’s instinct. So it’s going to take time for him to adjust to a new place. Remember, compared to him you’re the size of Godzilla. Keep working with him. Sit next to the cage. Talk to him. Put your hand in the cage as needed, he’ll figure out you’re no threat it’s just going to take a bit of time. Keep trying to get him to “step up”.

Keep offering him treats. Throwing out “soft” food - stuff that wilts or potentially gets nasty - after a few hours is the right thing to do. He does notice them, I assure you, he’s just not sure if they’re OK yet. If he sees you eating, or sees you eating the same thing, he’s much more likely to try it.

It can take a couple weeks for a bird to really settle into a new place. Be patient.

Many budgies like kale and other green leafy veggies – I’ve seen them singing and playing like crazy in a big pile of freshly-washed kale.

Regarding night frights: budgies and cockatiels have a reputation for sometimes startling at night and trying to fly in their cages, sometimes hurting themselves; amazon parrots and macaws generally do not.

I once read a very illuminating explanation of the difference. It’s not a function of “bravery.” It’s a survival strategy.

Budgies and cockatiels are native to open scrubland and grasslands. Amazons and macaws live i dense jungle. For a budgie, movement at night is likely to be a predator – and the open sky means safety. It’s almost always safer to fly, even if you can’t see. For an amazon parrot, however, the world is a dense tangle of wing-breaking branches and vines, with plenty of hiding places – better to stay quiet and hidden.

The “startling” might explain times when I’ve heard a sudden loud-ish clang - that you’d think such a tiny tweety couldn’t possibly produce!

Kale: so, take a leaf or two of it, rinse it off, and put it in the bottom of the cage?? Fresh foods so far have been a nibble or two in a separate dish (don’t want them getting the birdseed mixture damp). He hasn’t touched them yet. Some kale might be fun!

You can also get something like a chip clip or other small clip to fasten veggies to the bars of the cage by a perch. Some birds don’t like getting down to the floor of the cage because that’s where the poop is, some are okay with it. I usually clipped stuff to the side bars, seemed to get less messy that way.

I use clothespins to attach things to the side of the cage. They’re cheap so when the birds are done shredding them I don’t feel bad about throwing them away (get the unpainted wooden ones - birds will chew on anything, they’re worse than dogs for that).

Yes, get a kale leaf, rinse it under water, put it in the cage. I sometimes put a thing like that on a plate to avoid getting the stuff on/under the cage bottom wet. Either a ceramic plate, or a paper one (a paper one will get chewed, just be warned).

Sometimes they just play with things like carrot shreds and vegetables - but so what? It’s a harmless toy for them, and if they eat some all to the good (they probably do, but it may not be enough for you to notice, especially after they shred it/roll in it/drag it around the cage). It keeps them from getting bored.

The cage bottom is actually bars just like the top / sides (the tray where we have it lined with paper is below that). Is that an issue?

He has finally just about destroyed his latest millet spray. One advantage of the bars on the bottom is that the seeds he drops from that go down to the bottom - so he can’t eat them from the floor, which means he’s not as able to pig out completely.

I actually have the millet spray attached to the cage using a binder clip. I’m trying to figure out how I’d attach other veggies - you’d think the clip would squash the veg, which would then fall to the floor, defeating the purpose of the clip.

I was thinking that when I remove the current millet spray (there’s an untouched section but he’d have to hang on the side to get to that), I would only have it there when my hand is in the cage with him. I don’t know if that would be enough of an enticement to approach my hand or not.

No.

That’s another reason I use clothespins, they don’t seem to smash things in two so much.

Teaching him to associate you with treats is a good thing.

Keep offering him non-seed food - it can take time for a bird to start eating a newly introduced food item.