# Should we Mourn the death of Olivia de Havilland **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 27, 2020, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455 "2020-07-27T06:54:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/21 "2020-07-27T07:41:51Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …who are you talking too? Czarcasm ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/22 "2020-07-27T07:43:05Z")
> [@kswiss](#): > > So glad to have an official representative of the SJWs here. …I am proud to serve. We live for the one, we die for the one. ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/23 "2020-07-27T07:44:49Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I am proud to serve. We live for the one, we die for the one. do you get elected? is there a process? how does it work? ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/24 "2020-07-27T07:47:59Z")
How y’all decide if an actress in racist movie ok, but say a producer of the same movie isn’t? just curious ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/25 "2020-07-27T07:50:26Z")
So what is your opinion on your own topic? ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/26 "2020-07-27T07:51:36Z")
And here I thought this thread was going to be “Should we mourn the death of Olivia de Havilland, since after all we’ve all got to go some time, and 104 is a pretty good showing in the Not Dying Olympics. Go Liv!” That would have been a more interesting thread. ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/27 "2020-07-27T07:57:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So what is your opinion on your own topic? Yes she was a wonderful actress, strong female role model, and did a lot for other actors in the studio system. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/28 "2020-07-27T07:59:12Z")
> [@kswiss](#): > > Yes she was a wonderful actress, strong female role model, and did a lot for other actors in the studio system Way to waffle. 🙄 How about answering the questions you raise in your on OP? ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/29 "2020-07-27T07:59:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So what is your opinion on your own topic? Yet, bringing up the horribly racist movie she was in, seems to cause trouble ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/30 "2020-07-27T08:00:10Z")
The United States of America is a horribly racist country. Why are we mourning the recent death of one of its representatives? ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/31 "2020-07-27T08:00:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Way to waffle. 🙄 > How about answering the questions you raise in your on OP? I was writing it, give me a minute ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/32 "2020-07-27T08:03:54Z")
10 bucks to anyone who answers the Elia Kazan question. ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/33 "2020-07-27T08:07:15Z")
Let’s cut to chase here. “Gone with the Wind” is a “racist” movie, Olivia de Havilland participated in a racist movie. Therefore Olivia de Havilland is a racist. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/34 "2020-07-27T08:07:28Z")
Surely we can not control our mourning. We are either sad or not sad. Personally I am not sad. Why? Because I have no idea who she is beyond what’s been written in this thread. I would expect someone else who is familiar with her works and has been moved by her performances would feel sad and would mourn her passing. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/35 "2020-07-27T08:08:12Z")
> [@kswiss](#): > > 0 bucks to anyone who answers It’s been an interesting conversation so far but I would have never thought of this corollary. ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/36 "2020-07-27T08:08:57Z")
Well said, I don’t mean to speak ill of the dead. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/37 "2020-07-27T08:09:20Z")
> [@kswiss](#): > > Let’s cut to chase here. “Gone with the Wind” is a “racist” movie, Olivia de Havilland participated in a racist movie. Therefore Olivia de Havilland is a racist. Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/38 "2020-07-27T08:09:35Z")
A great many movies being made today that pass political muster won’t in half a century. ---
**Author:** ![kswiss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@kswiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kswiss)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/39 "2020-07-27T08:11:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man. Cant really argue with that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455/40 "2020-07-27T08:11:53Z")
> [@kswiss](#): > > Let’s cut to chase here. “Gone with the Wind” is a “racist” movie, Olivia de Havilland participated in a racist movie. Therefore Olivia de Havilland is a racist So…is that a yes or a no on your own “Should she be acknowledged by at the Oscars?” OP question? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-mourn-the-death-of-olivia-de-havilland/916455.md?page=3)