# Should We Use Bio Weapons On the Taliban?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 17, 2001, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064 "2001-10-17T20:59:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mars\_Horizon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mars_horizon/32/2804_2.png) [@Mars\_Horizon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mars_Horizon)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/21 "2001-10-18T14:06:24Z")

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**Bill** , why do you ignore your Lord’s instructions to [not resist an evil person](http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT+5:38-40&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=off)?

Why do you profess to be a Christian and yet at every turn, take great pains to not act like one?

Why do you act the way you do?

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/22 "2001-10-18T14:09:34Z")

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Mangetout,

Listen, we are not dealing with humans here. These terrorist are not human remember that. They might have some characteristics of humans but they are not humans. Remember that. They need to be eliminated like bugs. Do you think when you kill a cockroach with poison they have a nice painless death? That’s what these suckers are human cock roaches that need to be exterminated not tried in a jury trial where some slick lawyer can get them life or something.

I mean next time you want to kill a roach why don’t you give him a trial and get him a lawyer afterall all he did was cross your kitchen floor looking for some munchies.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/23 "2001-10-18T14:13:00Z")

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Dear Bill,

1. Please read Lemur866’s post carefully.

2. Why are you not going after the group that supported / sponsored Timothy McVeigh?  
He killed Americans in a terrorist attack too. Under your ‘logic’, this would mean dropping bio-weapons somewhere in the USA. Does that help you understand why you’re wrong? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/24 "2001-10-18T14:16:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> **Listen, we are not dealing with humans here. These terrorist are not human remember that. They might have some characteristics of humans but they are not humans. Remember that.**

Well, they are humans, though. They’re not nice humans, but they’re definately human.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/25 "2001-10-18T14:34:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by glee \*  
> \*\*Dear Bill,
> 
> 1. Please read Lemur866’s post carefully.
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> 2. Why are you not going after the group that supported / sponsored Timothy McVeigh?  
> He killed Americans in a terrorist attack too. Under your ‘logic’, this would mean dropping bio-weapons somewhere in the USA. Does that help you understand why you’re wrong? :rolleyes: \*\*

I did read Lemur866 post carefully. He/she made some very good points. I especially like the Superman analogy. He should have went after Luter’s girlfriend anyway she was hot. 😃

Like I said I am not up for using bio weapons on Afganies. I am back to sniping terrorist with bio laced bullets(to make sure they die). Ok captain they are human. They are human bugs that need to be exterminated.

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**Author:** ![Mars\_Horizon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mars_horizon/32/2804_2.png) [@Mars\_Horizon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mars_Horizon)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/26 "2001-10-18T14:36:27Z")

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**Bill** , are you going to answer my questions? Or even acknowledge them?

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/27 "2001-10-18T14:45:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> \*\*I totally see what you are saying. And let me say that I hate bio weapons heck I hate nukes. I think the people that invented these weapons should be in Hell. They are evil. I am just freak’n out over all this stuff. \*\*

At what point did this become the forum for “freak’n out” over stuff? I thought there was supposed to be some kind of reasoned debates here. Or at least the attempt at such. When **Bill** starts answering the questions, then maybe I’ll believe he actually wants a debate.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/28 "2001-10-18T14:47:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> \*\*Mangetout,
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> Listen, we are not dealing with humans here. These terrorist are not human remember that. They might have some characteristics of humans but they are not humans. Remember that. They need to be eliminated like bugs. Do you think when you kill a cockroach with poison they have a nice painless death? That’s what these suckers are human cock roaches that need to be exterminated not tried in a jury trial where some slick lawyer can get them life or something.
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> I mean next time you want to kill a roach why don’t you give him a trial and get him a lawyer afterall all he did was cross your kitchen floor looking for some munchies. \*\*

Ok, let’s ignore the idea that they _might be_ humans and explore your analogy a little deeper; when I kill vermin, I look for a method that is quick and effective, not one that causes them to suffer a long drawn-out death.

Bill, you are taking delight in evil, or at the very least that’s what it looks like.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/29 "2001-10-18T14:51:32Z")

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Sorry Mars,

Yes, I am Christian. But at times of war killing is justified. The reason I act the way I do is because I am little scared especially for my family and pissed off at the same time.

This is a great nation being terrorized by some losers. I think it is time to start handling the problem instead of just bombing the Taliban(which is good to show these countries they shouldn’t harbour these scum). And the way you handle it is by exterminating the problem just as the Israelies do their wacko enemies. You don’t try’em you shoot them. You can’t pussyfoot around with people willing to die flying into buildings. You get rid of them. PERIOD. If you think it is too much using bio laced bullets, then use poison laced bullets I don’t care lets just get it done before they can kill any more Americans.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/30 "2001-10-18T14:54:00Z")

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Actually, since September 11, Bill has asked the same basic question at least three or four times, in different threads:

“Should the US employ terror in response to terrorism?”

Even though he’s phrased it as involving nukes, or bioweapons, or killing random civilian “ragheads”, it always ends up being the same question. The response has been an overwhelming “No” from those who bother to reply, yet he keeps rewording the question and coming back again. Not sure why he keeps applying the lash to this particular dead equine.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/31 "2001-10-18T15:01:38Z")

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Because El kabong,

Because these suckers keep whipping the lash on our behinds. Like I said one more time it I don’t want innocent people die any more than y’all do. But what about sniping terrorist with poison laced bullets to make SURE they die? Do you see any problem with that? If you don’t want to use are military, secretly hire merc. Let’s just get rid of them no matter what country they are in. I mean they are terrorist who cares about their rights? Shoot em.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/32 "2001-10-18T15:06:48Z")

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In response to **manhattan** , **Wildest Bill** posted this:

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> Also I wouldn’t care if you gave the nut jobs the anthrax virus as punishment if they indeed are the ones that used that stuff(I don’t think so though).

**Bill** , could you go into a little more depth about why you’re so sure the Taliban or associated terrorists are behind the anthrax thing?

Thanks.

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> Listen, we are not dealing with humans here. These terrorist are not human remember that. They might have some characteristics of humans but they are not humans. Remember that. They need to be eliminated like bugs. Do you think when you kill a cockroach with poison they have a nice painless death? That’s what these suckers are human cock roaches that need to be exterminated not tried in a jury trial where some slick lawyer can get them life or something.

This strikes me as disturbingly sociopathic. No, not on the terrorists’ part. On **Bill’s**. Do you really believe that they’re not human, **Bill**? If so, why? Do you also–tired parallel coming up–believe that the people who participated in the Crusades were not really human? What about the Ku Klux Klan?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/33 "2001-10-18T15:10:16Z")

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You know if **Wildest Bill** gets his way, we’re going to wind up with Charlton Heston fighting chalk-faced mutants in downtown LA. On the other hand, he gets it on with the foxy Rosalind Cash, so even biowarfare and the deaths of millions have an upside! 😃

If I’m not taking this debate seriously with the gravity one has in Great Debates, it’s because **WB** ’s OP is too silly to take seriously.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/34 "2001-10-18T15:26:42Z")

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Man, I dig that movie Gobear. I need to rent that again. Thanks for bringing that up I think I will rent it tonight.

But what do you think about the idea of assasinating(I hate that word for terrorist how about exterminating) the known terrorist no matter where they are with extreme prejudice.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/35 "2001-10-18T15:33:55Z")

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And again Bill-what IF it isn’t the terrorists from September 11?

_sigh_

I thought you hated ending up in the Pit-I thought you said you were going to make an effort to change?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/36 "2001-10-18T15:39:09Z")

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Waitin’ on an answer to my questions, **Bill**.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/37 "2001-10-18T15:58:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadarene \*  
> \*\*Waitin’ on an answer to my questions, **Bill**. \*\*

Sorry,

I am not sure it is the Taliban. I think we should use just regular military on them. What I am talking about is taking out ALL known terrorist all over the world. Now is the time to eliminate them while the world would get behind such an action.

You understand I don’t want to bio weapons anyone. I think they are evil too.

Oh the KKK and the other Crusade people you mentioned are nuts too. Am I still a sociopath?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/38 "2001-10-18T15:59:14Z")

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> But what do you think about the idea of assasinating(I hate that word for terrorist how about exterminating) the known terrorist no matter where they are with extreme prejudice

Bill, you’ve been watching too many Chuck Norris movies (“extreme prejudice” forsooth!)

Yes, I have repeatedly advocated killing OBL and his followers; not from the sheer joy of killing, but from the necessity to remove an implacable enemy of the people of the United States.

I don’t know if you’ve ever seen somebody killed in real life, but I have. In 1986, outside my employee dorm room at the Grand Canyon, two guys were arguing when one pulled out a gun and shot the other in the head. Killing inreal life doesn’t look like the movies. There are more brains and blood on the walls for one thing.

That has stayed with me ever since. I know the gravity of killing and what a dead man looks like, so I don’t advocate this lightly, as you seem to do.

To want to kill the people of Afghanistan en masse for the crimes of a small gang of fanatics, as you seem to wish to do, is obscene.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/39 "2001-10-18T16:04:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadarene \*  
> \*\*Waitin’ on an answer to my questions, **Bill**. \*\*

Sorry,

I am not sure it is the Taliban. I think we should use just regular military on them. What I am talking about is taking out ALL known terrorist all over the world. Now is the time to eliminate them while the world would get behind such an action.

You understand I don’t want to bio weapons anyone. I think they are evil too.

Oh the KKK and the other Crusade people you mentioned are nuts too. Am I still a sociopath?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-use-bio-weapons-on-the-taliban/88064/40 "2001-10-18T16:29:55Z")

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> Oh the KKK and the other Crusade people you mentioned are nuts too. Am I still a sociopath?

I didn’t ask if you thought they were “nuts.” Thinking they’re nuts doesn’t make you a sociopath, and if you had just called the terrorists “nuts” then I wouldn’t have jumped all over you for it. But you said the terrorists are not human. You said they’re bugs. _That’s_ what sounds sociopathic. Do you feel the same way about the Crusaders and the Klan? Are they “not human”? What about abortion doctors? Are they not human, either?

In fact, just give me a list of all people for whom this description would apply:

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> Listen, we are not dealing with humans here. These terrorist are not human remember that. They might have some characteristics of humans but they are not humans.

Just a list. Thanks.

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