# Should/ will Biden issue pardons to Trump's enemies? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 19, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424 "2024-11-19T00:19:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424/181 "2025-01-20T20:26:11Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > He most certainly didn’t set that precedent, because Ford beat him to it. > > It’s not a precedent in the sense that Trump or his supporters are going to reference it if/when issuing their own pre-emptive pardons. They most certainly will bring up Biden’s. The trick is in not minding that liars are gonna lie. That’s what we all need to learn: stop worrying about what republicans are going to say. They’ll say whatever they think they need to to hold on to or regain power. The truth means nothing to them. So of all the misgivings I might have about Biden’s decision to issue these pardons, what the republicans will say factors not at all. The sooner more of us learn that, the better we will be as a nation. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424/182 "2025-01-21T02:09:25Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > Worse yet, they may implicitly or explicitly encourage wrongdoing by said underlings and allies with the intention of pardoning them after the fact. Trump is going to do that anyway, no matter what Biden did. Trying to lead by good example has been shown to be a fool’s errand in the Trump era. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424/183 "2025-01-21T13:19:10Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > The trick is in not minding that liars are gonna lie. That’s what we all need to learn: stop worrying about what republicans are going to say. They’ll say whatever they think they need to to hold on to or regain power. The truth means nothing to them. > > So of all the misgivings I might have about Biden’s decision to issue these pardons, what the republicans will say factors not at all. > > The sooner more of us learn that, the better we will be as a nation. This is correct. I hope we’ve all moved past the phase of “oh no, if Dems do this, Republicans will do that”. Republicans are already planning to do that. If Dems don’t bite on the pretext being offered, another will be contrived. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424/184 "2025-01-21T14:15:27Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump is going to do that anyway, no matter what Biden did. Trump has _already_ done that. He made it clear that he’d pardon all the J6 traitors, all through the campaign, and now he’s actually done it. The message to his vigilante followers is clear: If you’re on his side, he’s got your back, don’t worry about those silly rules and shit. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424/185 "2025-01-22T08:47:57Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Just before the inauguration, it was announced that Biden has also issued blanket pardons to members of his family – his siblings James Biden, Francis Biden and Valerie Biden Owens, as well as brother-in-law John Owens and sister-in-law Sara Jones Biden. > > This seems a bit . . . much? I haven’t heard that any of them are in the crosshairs of the Trump Administration. Haven’t you heard about “the Biden Crime Family”? They _are_ all targets of the Republicans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-will-biden-issue-pardons-to-trumps-enemies/1010424.md?page=9)