# Should you \[give panhandlers money / call the cops on panhandlers\]?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 14, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328 "2009-01-14T21:30:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/21 "2009-01-15T08:02:16Z")

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> [@jessesheeran](#):
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> people who **play** “down and out” are definitely annoying and they should receive no money from anyone
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> but sometimes it is real, and those situations are intense for the person, and you should give spare change if you have spare change

Nah. I work hard for every dollar I have, and I don’t feel guilty in the least bit for ignoring panhandlers on the street. Nor should anyone, IMO.

That doesn’t mean I’d report them to the cops, necessarily, though. As long as you’re being peaceful in your begging, I don’t care where in public you choose to do it.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/22 "2009-01-15T08:15:55Z")

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> [@jessesheeran](#):
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> people who **play** “down and out” are definitely annoying and they should receive no money from anyone
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> but sometimes it is real, and those situations are intense for the person, and you should give spare change if you have spare change

The alternative is to write a check to organizations that exist for the sole purpose of feeding, sheltering and teaching the homeless.

By paying someone directly a person risks enabling a drug/alcohol habit and encourages repeat panhandling which is bad for local business. Less business means fewer jobs and less taxes paid.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/23 "2009-01-15T08:51:48Z")

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When I was younger, lived downtown and walked to work, I would still take panhandlers to the corner drugstore or to the church for breakfast. Some people need to eat right then and to get out of the cold for a little while. And it was better for me not to be so removed.

Still, there are many good organizations that feed and shelter the homeless.

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**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/24 "2009-01-15T08:53:56Z")

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We should be able to walk from our stores/offices to our cars in peace.

Nice, clean, sterile, homogenized, environments.

Those fucking bums are screwing it up. They should ask for their money like real men.

In front of congress.

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**Author:** ![Ocean\_Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@Ocean\_Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ocean_Annie)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/25 "2009-01-15T13:45:05Z")

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> [@Freejooky](#):
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> No, you shouldn’t give them money. Something tells me that most of the people responding to this don’t live in urban areas and actually have to deal with vagrants every day.

Don’t feed the pigeons, seagulls, or homeless. It reinforces begging behavior. We can use indifference as a means of behavior modification to cull the homeless population.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/26 "2009-01-15T14:05:33Z")

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> [@Freejooky](#):
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> No, you shouldn’t give them money. Something tells me that most of the people responding to this don’t live in urban areas and actually have to deal with vagrants every day.

Yes, I admit I would certainly have a different point of view if I were living in a big city, like…hmm…wait a minute…

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/27 "2009-01-15T14:30:13Z")

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Are anti-vagrancy laws constitutional? In those old movies, you always see a cop walking his beat with a nightstick-telling some hobo to 'move on". The cops used to enforce these laws-I don’t see this today.

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**Author:** ![sweeteviljesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sweeteviljesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweeteviljesus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/28 "2009-01-15T15:15:38Z")

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I know that around here, a lot of the panhandlers aren’t actually homeless. I have seen them get into rather nice cars and drive away. My sister has seen some get out of a new Mustang, scruffy themselves up and go panhandling. Various news reports have reported on this as well. My personal feeling is that I would never give panhandlers money directly (homeless charities are a different story) but I don’t feel the need to have them arrested unless they are doing something bad. I might give them food directly.

FWIW,  
Rob

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/29 "2009-01-15T15:24:20Z")

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I ignore them. All you are doing is perpetuating the cycle. If no one gave them money then they’d figure out that perhaps a shelter and a job would be a good idea. Yeah, I’m a cold-hearted prick.

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**Author:** ![Dilton\_Doiley\_Philosopher\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f1d935/32.png) [@Dilton\_Doiley\_Philosopher\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dilton_Doiley_Philosopher_King)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/30 "2009-01-15T16:03:10Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I don’t think you quite understand the whole “homeless” concept.

I didn’t use the word “homeless” in my OP. I was discussing panhandlers, some of which may or may not be homeless.

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**Author:** ![Dilton\_Doiley\_Philosopher\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f1d935/32.png) [@Dilton\_Doiley\_Philosopher\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dilton_Doiley_Philosopher_King)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/31 "2009-01-15T16:04:24Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Why does a city have a “right to clean up its bum population”?

Because they aren’t paying taxes?

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/32 "2009-01-15T16:08:55Z")

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I know an awful lot of people who spend their personal money on drugs and alcohol but when someone on the street asks them for change, turn into the Universe’s Social Worker.

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**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/33 "2009-01-15T16:31:56Z")

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The last couple of times I gave money (like $1-2) to a panhandler, they became indignant and said “aw, come on man…”

Doesn’t really encourage me to ever give again.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/34 "2009-01-15T16:35:06Z")

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No to both questions, although of course you should call the cops if a panhandler is acting in a threatening manner. Give your money to the local foodbank, job-training center or homeless shelter - it’ll do a _lot_ more good. Although I’ve bought food for homeless people down the block more than once, I expect money put directly into their hands is probably going to go for drugs or alcohol.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/35 "2009-01-15T16:35:49Z")

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The advice I always give in these threads: if you don’t want to give money that’s fine, but don’t literally ignore them. You walk past a bum and he says, “spare change?” – if you neither break stride nor turn your head, and you generally act as if you can neither see nor here him, it’s both incredibly rude and rather likely to lead to an unpleasant incident. Just smile and say “no, sorry” or “not tonight.”

And yes, calling the cops on homeless people who aren’t being unusually disturbing is a dick move: both the bums and the cops have enough problems as it is.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/36 "2009-01-15T16:38:42Z")

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I once called the cops to report a guy who was hitting me up for cash so that he could pay his parking meter fee. Why? Because he gave me the same exact story the week beforehand.

Unfortunately, the police officer said that they can’t do anything in such circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/37 "2009-01-15T16:44:10Z")

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> [@Ensign\_Edison](#):
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> I know an awful lot of people who spend their personal money on drugs and alcohol but when someone on the street asks them for change, turn into the Universe’s Social Worker.

Who cares if people spend their own personal money that they EARNED on whatever they want?

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/38 "2009-01-15T16:47:00Z")

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I give them money if they have amusing signs or say something amusing.

I don’t think I (or anybody else) has a right to not see homeless people, any more than we have the right to not see people wearing red shirts or Birkenstocks with socks. We do have the right to not be aggressively panhandled or threatened, and I would think about calling the cops in that case.

If you’re going to grant the authorities the right to shoo away homeless people for being disgusting and dirty, are you going to send the cops after me because a passing driver splashed mud on my pants and I haven’t had a chance to go home and change? What if I make someone feel guilty by looking like their mother who they don’t get along with?

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/39 "2009-01-15T16:50:48Z")

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> [@Dilton\_Doiley\_Philosopher\_King](#):
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> Because they aren’t paying taxes?

Everyone deserves the right to life, liberty and the paying of taxes. :rolleyes:

Why do you hate freedom?

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-you-give-panhandlers-money-call-the-cops-on-panhandlers/481328/40 "2009-01-15T16:55:42Z")

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> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> Who cares if people spend their own personal money that they EARNED on whatever they want?

You mean like giving it to panhandlers? Yet they don’t just not do it themselves – they lecture me and anyone else about doing it.

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