# Shouldn't Trump Be Arrested?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 8, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918 "2016-10-08T09:18:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/41 "2016-10-09T00:26:23Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Wow I didn’t realize that’s what Trump did! Your link didn’t mention it. I’ll go off right now and find the story.
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> In the mean time I’ll just let you know I’m an SVU detective who has been investigating sex crimes for the last six years. I’m always willing to learn more so I’ll look forward to your next posts.

> **[Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl](https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/)**
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> A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016.

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> I personally witnessed four sexual encounters that the Plaintiff was forced to have with Mr. Trump during this period, including the fourth of these encounters where Mr. Trump forcibly raped her despite her pleas to stop.
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> I personally witnessed the one occasion where Mr. Trump forced the Plaintiff and a 12-year-old female named Maria [to] perform oral sex on Mr. Trump and witnessed his physical abuse of both minors when they finished the act.
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> It was my job to personally witness and supervise encounters between the underage girls that Mr. Epstein hired and his guests.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/42 "2016-10-09T00:35:47Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Or in a few weeks, he is going to be president elect, in which case those same powerful people will line up at the trough. Business is business.
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> Declan

Naw, he isn’t going to win. Hillary’s ground game and his own party will make sure of that. The RNC has suspended campaign activities for Trump, and he was depending upon them to GOTV. And people are already voting!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/43 "2016-10-09T00:58:11Z")

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I’ve watched the Trump supporters spin this story so many ways it’s pathetic. A decade ago, that’s not who he is, boys in a locker room. For craps sake people, it IS who he is, it’s who he’s been for a long time. It’s who he’ll be for the rest of his life.

If he thought he could kiss and grope women when he was a star, what do you think he’ll think he can do to women as POTUS?

We had a jerk like this as [mayor of San Diego](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Filner) a few years back. He thought being the mayor gave him the right to sexually harass women. The law disagreed, and the city paid out a lot of money in settlements for what he did to the women. Everyone loses when a jerkwad can’t keep his hands to himself.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/44 "2016-10-09T00:58:19Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> [Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/)

Yes I was aware there is a lawsuit but at this time there is as much proof that it happened as there is for the Anita Broderick case. If it is true then it would of course be a crime.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/45 "2016-10-09T01:01:29Z")

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“70yo admits 60yo self was crude, assures he has matured since then.”

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/46 "2016-10-09T01:03:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Naw, he isn’t going to win. Hillary’s ground game and his own party will make sure of that. The RNC has suspended campaign activities for Trump, and he was depending upon them to GOTV. And people are already voting!

It certainly looks now like he won’t win. There are plenty of people who have made their mind up about him that won’t change but not enough to win. Hopefully no October surprises coming out on the other end to swing things back.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/47 "2016-10-09T01:03:44Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “70yo admits 60yo self was crude, assures he has matured since then.”

Brilliant

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/48 "2016-10-09T01:31:05Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Yes I said it was brought up in civil court. What I was trying to say is that this is not a case of someone coming forward with allegations after the statute of limitations ran out. Her allegations came out in time for a criminal investigation but she chose to sue. I don’t know why. Maybe advice of counsel.

“she chose to sue” because that is all she could do on her own.

Criminal prosecutions are done by the County Attorney, not individuals. And County Attorneys are elected, and need contributions from rich, powerful men to run their campaigns. So they tend to be hesitant about indicting them. Especially when the only evidence is the word of a young woman.

Nothing surprising about this,

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/49 "2016-10-09T01:35:38Z")

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> **[Trump's gun comment interpreted as violent threat against Clinton](https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/09/trump-suggests-hillary-be-shot-in-speech-clinton-camp-calls-remarks-dangerous.html)**
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> Donald Trump creates another firestorm when he seems to suggest violence as means of preventing Hillary Clinton from nominating judges.

Yeah I think he should had been arrested for saying against Hillary !

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/50 "2016-10-09T01:54:02Z")

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> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
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> “she chose to sue” because that is all she could do on her own.
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> Criminal prosecutions are done by the County Attorney, not individuals. And County Attorneys are elected, and need contributions from rich, powerful men to run their campaigns. So they tend to be hesitant about indicting them. Especially when the only evidence is the word of a young woman.
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> Nothing surprising about this,

Cite?

The prosecutor wouldn’t have a chance to make that determination if there wasn’t a police report or further investigation. Did she try? I haven’t seen anything about it but I don’t know one way or the other. If she did attempt and it didn’t go anywhere you could form an opinion about it even without facts. But if she didn’t attempt to go that route then yes she chose to sue.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/51 "2016-10-09T02:58:22Z")

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Remember when Trump told the Evangelicals that being elected might be the only way he gets to heaven?

He’s going to spend the rest of his life under a hailstorm of federal and state charges for various things, many of which he’s done DURING the election. Plus all the lawsuits from people he stiffed during his run.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/52 "2016-10-09T06:11:50Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> He’s going to spend the rest of his life under a hailstorm of federal and state charges for various things, many of which he’s done DURING the election. Plus all the lawsuits from people he stiffed during his run.

\<conspiracy theory\> maybe one of the reasons Trump ran is because he knew charges against him were coming for Trump U Fraud, his charity and other things and as President he could direct resources elsewhere or worse case pardon himself \</conspiracy theory\>

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/53 "2016-10-09T16:31:58Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> \<conspiracy theory\> maybe one of the reasons Trump ran is because he knew charges against him were coming for Trump U Fraud, his charity and other things and as President he could direct resources elsewhere or worse case pardon himself \</conspiracy theory\>

In that case, wouldn’t you try to, you know, win?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/54 "2016-10-09T16:36:59Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> In that case, wouldn’t you try to, you know, win?

He’s trying to win in the only way he knows how.  
The only thing missing is a blizzard of lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/55 "2016-10-10T14:07:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The only thing missing is a blizzard of lawsuits.

Just wait until the day after the election.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/56 "2019-06-21T18:01:44Z")

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Prominent advice columnist E. Jean Carroll says Trump tried to rape her 23 years ago:

> **[E. Jean Carroll: “Trump attacked me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman.”](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=nym)**
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> The Elle advice columnist says the assault took place in Bergdorf Goodman.

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> When Carroll meets Donald Trump in Bergdorf Goodman, the encounter starts as a friendly one. Trump recognizes her as “that advice lady”; Carroll recognizes him as “that real-estate tycoon.” Trump tells Carroll that he’s there to buy a gift for “a girl,” and though we don’t learn the identity of this mystery woman, Carroll places the ensuing incident in late 1995 or early 1996, during which time Trump was married to Marla Maples. When Trump asks Carroll to advise him on what to buy, she agrees, and the two eventually make their way to the lingerie section. Trump suggests a lace bodysuit and encourages Carroll to try it on; she, deflecting, jokingly suggests that he try it on instead. After they reach the dressing rooms, events turn violent. In Carroll’s account, Trump shoves her against a wall inside a dressing room, pulls down her tights, and, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.”

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/57 "2019-06-21T18:12:49Z")

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Reading the quote of the details at the end of that made me throw up in my mouth a little.

And, absolutely nothing will come of this other than Fox and Trump’s other minions completely shredding Carroll’s reputation.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/58 "2019-06-21T18:37:06Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Reading the quote of the details at the end of that made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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> And, absolutely nothing will come of this other than Fox and Trump’s other minions completely shredding Carroll’s reputation.

Not to make light of the situation, but I gotta imagine that the not being certain about whether it was “halfway” or “completely” is a not so subtle insult.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/59 "2019-06-21T18:40:00Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Not to make light of the situation, but I gotta imagine that the not being certain about whether it was “halfway” or “completely” is a not so subtle insult.

I laughed, along with feeling enormous empathy. Good on her.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shouldnt-trump-be-arrested/767918/60 "2019-06-21T19:10:45Z")

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No statute of limitations for 1st degree rape in NY .

In 1994 Trump had been married to Marla Maples for a year and Tiffany was a year old.

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