# Shows you gave up on. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054 "2002-05-27T16:12:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tretiak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@Tretiak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tretiak)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/41 "2002-05-28T20:23:33Z")
_Law & Order_ because I was starting to predict the plot each week, since it is always the same. Some folks, minding their own business stumble upon a dead body. Cut to Detective Briscoe making some witty remark over the body or after having talked to the witness. Commercial. They follow an obvious lead, think they have the guy but then it turns out it wasn’t that guy after all. They are flummoxed until the Detecitves superior tells them to “follow the money”. They do and finally get the right guy. End of Law part. Now Order starts with what seems like a open and shut case, starring Sam Waterson and This Year’s Model. But hey, in walks That LAwyer who always seems to throw a wrench into the works. And of course, he or she does, managing to get key evidence or witness supressed. The case is now nigh impossible. “Make a deal,” they are implored. But Waterson says no way and he figures out some convoluted extra-legal way to get at the guy. Frequently this inolves threatening to put the accused spouse/child/parent in jail for something else. they finally get their guy, justice is served, but at what cost? The End ---
**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/42 "2002-05-28T20:43:37Z")
I think the Simpsons is really out of gas. It’s a great show, I love the reruns, but the new ones just lack something. The X-Files stopped being interesting when it became clear that the writers were dragging out tired old plotlines (Mulder’s sister, Scully’s abduction) because they lacked anything more interesting to show us. The show was more interesting when there was a real mystery/detective component to it. As for Xena, aside from the fact that the show was pretty silly and cheesy to begin with, they managed to drag all sorts of wierd stuff into it. Apparently Xena went up against Julius Caesar, the entire population of Olympus at some point, King Arthur (huh???), etc. Also, they made a musical episode which, by itself, convinced me that those responsible should be marched out and shot. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/43 "2002-05-28T22:13:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Journeyman \* > \*\*As for Xena, aside from the fact that the show was pretty silly and cheesy to begin with, they managed to drag all sorts of wierd stuff into it. Apparently Xena went up against Julius Caesar, the entire population of Olympus at some point, King Arthur (huh???), etc. Also, they made a musical episode which, by itself, convinced me that those responsible should be marched out and shot. \*\* I totally agreed, then I changed my mind when I found out the guy who played Ares died and I started watching every rerun I could find for some reason . ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/44 "2002-05-29T05:34:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Big Kahuna Burger \* > \*\*When we found out the Cancer Man was still alive for the third time, the X-Files just got too damn improbable and complex for me. > > On that show nobody’s ever dead. > > \*\* [spoiler]Except for the lab tech who had a crush on Scully, thereby providing an opportunity for her to get some. Sigh. I had been so waiting for an episode wherein Mulder calls Scully, who had been asleep, they have a tense, protracted convo, then she hangs up and the camera pans over to show Lab Tech Guy smiling drowsily while Scully says, “Well, as long as we’re awake…”[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/45 "2002-05-29T17:04:08Z")
Damn, I actually gave up mid-episode. Just said-- that’s enough, this is just stupid now. It went from a clever fast moving medical drama to a dopely evening soap opera. Horrid. Hard to believe this was the best show on TV at one time. It is just dreck now. Sad. X-files was disappointing, but I still watched. To the DS9 doubters, you stopped watching just as it got good. Too bad. -me ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/46 "2002-05-29T17:12:59Z")
Will and Grace. Jack was the horrible stereotypical flaming gay guy, very one dimensional, and Karen was a strident scheming socialite, very cruel, also one dimensional. Grace was the neurotic, and Will was the lonely glue to hold them all together. A very thin show, I thought. Besides, it’s on opposite CSI, and as my daughter says, “It’s not CSI until I see Nick (George Eads)” Yum! ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/47 "2002-05-29T21:24:13Z")
For me, the first TV show that I remember loving and then giving up on was _Moonlighting_. I wasn’t much more than 13 or so, but when the whole love and angst thing started to kick in, I quickly (as did everybody else, apparently) lost interest. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/48 "2002-05-29T21:50:48Z")
**ER** when the doctors became eligible for hazard pay due to the bombings, knifings, muggings, shootings… **Party of Five** when they forgot how to smile. **Roseanne** after the novelty wore off sometime in the 2nd season. **Ally McBeal** when the quirks became blase. **Friends** when they all started becoming lovers. Yuck. **Frasier** - actually I didn’t give up on it, the network kept moving it to the point where I gave up trying to find it. ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/49 "2002-05-29T22:50:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by burntsand \* > What good shows have been set in a school, that didn’t resort to an “Improbable Disaster of the Week” formula? I rather liked [TV 101](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094561#comment), though the show gave up on me before I gave up on it. The show featured a 21-year old Matt LeBlanc – why, that’s almost young enough to actually _be_ a high school student! ---
**Author:** ![Rubicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58f4c7/32.png) [@Rubicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubicon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/50 "2002-05-29T23:10:17Z")
ER–How did this wind up as the #3 show this year? Started sucking when Clooney left. Xena–How you can run out of plots with the lack of historical accuracy that brought every ancient culture together at one time, plus magic and the occult, is beyond me. Dharma and Greg–When I found out Dharma was a Scientologist. Kind of ruins her hippie appeal. X-Files–When “serious” and “not serious” became separate episodes–why not both at once? That 80s Show–Not ready for nostalgia that mocks clothing I still own. The Man Show–Only the kid brings me back once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![ladybug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@ladybug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladybug)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/51 "2002-05-29T23:23:27Z")
I gave up on **ER** awhile ago, after it became more of a soap opera than a medical drama. I only watched a few episodes this year, and that’s because I wanted to see the last episode with Mark. Although I wasn’t impressed by season six of **Buffy** , I haven’t completely given up on the show yet. However, I don’t know if I’ll be sticking with **Angel** much longer. **Ally McBeal** was fantastic in the first two seasons. After that I stopped watching it completely. And I don’t think I watched **The Practice** at all this season. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/52 "2002-05-30T00:54:24Z")
**NOVA** Ever since that star-studdded celebrity CGI-animation-of-your-immune-system episode, the show’s never recovered. ---
**Author:** ![Neptune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@Neptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptune)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/53 "2002-05-30T01:10:52Z")
**Andromeda** I really really wanted to like this. I’m not sure why I haven’t got into it. **Friends** I liked this for a couple years, but then, I dunno what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Neptune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@Neptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptune)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/54 "2002-05-30T01:28:18Z")
Yeah, **Nova**. I used to love that. Wasn’t it supposed to be about science? When was the last time they used the word _photon_ or _lightyear_. Now it’s all save the habitat of striped-belly whatzaduzit. Isn’t that what the show Nature is for? Give me some cool science stuff! ---
**Author:** ![drollman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f04885/32.png) [@drollman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drollman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/55 "2002-05-30T02:50:14Z")
Gave up on Everybody Loves Raymond when I realized he whines too much and she’s a ballbuster. Why wouold people who don’t get along get married and have 3 kids? Also gave up on Drew Carey when, well when he was no longer Drew Carey and was, well DREW CAREY!! Too hip for the character he plays. Drollman–over 200 posts with a spelling mistake! ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/56 "2002-05-30T05:26:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\* > > Except for the lab tech who had a crush on Scully, thereby providing an opportunity for her to get some. > \*\* Providing her an opportunity to get some? Christ, Scully’s a gorgeous redheaded FBI seductress who (I think) couldn’t have children for most of the show, how could she _not_ get any? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/57 "2002-05-30T08:14:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*Providing her an opportunity to get some? Christ, Scully’s a gorgeous redheaded FBI seductress who (I think) couldn’t have children for most of the show, how could she _not_ get any? 😕 \*\* Beats the hell out of me. I really didn’t like the episodes where Mulder would be romantically entwined with this woman or that, effectively transforming Scully into Girl Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Kang\_and\_Kodos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8baadc/32.png) [@Kang\_and\_Kodos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kang_and_Kodos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/58 "2002-05-30T09:57:31Z")
I take it that I’m the only one who remembers what a screeching car wreck the last couple of seasons of NIGHT COURT was? ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/59 "2002-05-30T14:35:36Z")
The one thing that puts me off shows is poor scheduling. I used to keep up with **Stargate** on C4 in the UK but they started shifting it around from Sunday evening to weekday teatime slot and then we got Sky and I just couldn’t keep track of the plot. When the Beeb moved **X-Files** from BBC2 to BBC1 it also seemed to coincide with a downturn in the quality of the show so bye bye Mully and Sculder. Unfortunalty I’ve had to live with a fat git of a w\*nker for the last year (moving out this sunday, bliss) who doesn’t believe in letting other people watch the TV if he doesn’t feel like it so I’ve sadly lost track of **Lexx & Millenium** on the SciFi channel. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054/60 "2002-05-30T15:09:58Z")
ER, Frasier OTOH, I just watched CSI for the first time a few weeks ago, and wow! Great show! 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shows-you-gave-up-on/111054.md?page=2)