# Shrek 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 20, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107 "2004-05-20T03:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/81 "2004-06-02T00:11:21Z")
I thought the “Be Good” reference came from _Terminator 2_ – you know, when he deliberately destroys himself in the factory…? I liked the reference to _Flashdance_ in Puss’s routine on stage. I kinda wondered about the whole plot about Shrek changing his appearance to a conventionally hunky guy – I knew both he and Fiona would end up as ogres again, but I wonder if the issue was just that Fiona didn’t want him to make that sacrifice just for her, or whether she considered how their lives would be made easier if they were both conventionally good-looking. She wouldn’t have to live the rest of her life in a swamp! ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Star\_to\_the\_Right](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Second\_Star\_to\_the\_Right](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Second_Star_to_the_Right)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/82 "2004-06-02T04:44:55Z")
“Be good” was definitely an E.T. reference. It’s one of the few English phrases E.T. learns during his time on Earth, and he says it to Drew Barrymore in the farewell scene of the film. Same delivery, tone, inflection etc. as the giant gingerbread man when he says it. BTW, I loved this movie. Seen it twice already and probably will again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jplacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jplacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jplacer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/83 "2004-06-02T05:32:04Z")
“the bush that looks like Shirley Bassey” Shirley Bassey sang the theme song to “Goldfinger” Gold-FINGER!!! ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/84 "2004-06-02T13:46:17Z")
The only one I remember (because I liked it so much :)) was when Fiona ripped the Little Mermaid off of Shrek and threw her to the sharks. Anyone else remember any Disney jabs? ---
**Author:** ![jfortun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@jfortun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jfortun)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/85 "2004-06-02T13:56:59Z")
Did anyone else think that Puss 'n Boots sexuality was, uh, a little ambiguous? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/86 "2004-06-02T14:41:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Did anyone else think that Puss 'n Boots sexuality was, uh, a little ambiguous? Not at all. He was unambiguously bi. He’s definitely not exclusively hetero, since he thinks Prince Charming is dreamy, and he’s not exclusively homo, since for Fiona, baby, he could be Shrek. ---
**Author:** ![Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/87 "2004-06-02T14:48:29Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Where have I seen/heard Jennifer Saunders before? Her voice was familiar but her name doesn’t ring a bell. It was bugging me the whole time. She was Edina (I think) from Absolutely Fabulous. I looked it up on the IMDB website, as I couldn’t quite remember where I’d heard her voice, either. _bamf_ ---
**Author:** ![Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/88 "2004-06-02T14:51:11Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > We’re going to see Garfield next. You’re going to see Garfield, eh? Well, have fun with that. Personally, I can’t watch the trailers for that movie without the words “god-mocking abomination” coming to mind, but i’ve been wrong about movies, before. let us know how that goes. _bamf_ ---
**Author:** ![Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/89 "2004-06-02T14:53:34Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > How? Where? I’ve not heard of this…? I think he’s talking about Shrek 4-D, which is over at Universal Studios, if I remember correctly. Fun stuff, that. The Hulk ride is pretty good, too 🙂 _bamf_ ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/90 "2004-06-02T18:44:10Z")
> [@Shirt Ninja 13](#): > > You’re going to see Garfield, eh? Well, have fun with that. Personally, I can’t watch the trailers for that movie without the words “god-mocking abomination” coming to mind, but i’ve been wrong about movies, before. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if my brain doesn’t try to ooze out of my ears during **Garfield,** but like most parents who get dragged into that one, it’s the tykes who will eat it up. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/91 "2004-06-02T20:27:09Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > I’ll be pleasantly surprised if **my brain doesn’t try to ooze out of my ears** during Garfield, but like most parents who get dragged into that one, it’s **the tykes who will eat it up**. :eek: (bolding mine) ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/92 "2004-06-03T12:28:47Z")
Liked Shrek 2 a lot. About the same as the first. I thought it had some great gags. The cops stuff and the pepper spray cracked me up. I thought the scene riding to Far Far Away was hilarious. The timing of the "are we there yet"s and the lip smacks was dead-on. “Holding out for a Hero” was a good scene, too. “be good” SOUNDED like Iron Giant, but I don’t know if IG ever really said it. E.T. definitely said it, but just because he said it doesn’t make it a reference. There was nothing else really that indicated any nods towards E.T. When they did the “long face” gag, they kind of showed Shrek and Steed together so it kind of played on the old joke with the literal meaning (towards the horse) and the figurative meaning (with Shrek looking sad). You didn’t really know who he was talking to. I’m a long time Garfield fan, and I was totally WHOOSHED by “I hate mondays” until I read this thread. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/93 "2004-06-03T13:52:33Z")
Of course, Garfield would be a whole lot better if Lorenzo Music were still here to do “the voice”. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/94 "2004-06-03T15:01:12Z")
> [@Jplacer](#): > > “the bush that looks like Shirley Bassey” > > Shirley Bassey sang the theme song to “Goldfinger” > > Gold-FINGER!!! Well, I guess I can chalk it up to forgetting this scene altogether and therefore not having a frame of reference, but I still don’t getit. Please help the obviously obtuse here…? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/95 "2004-06-03T15:14:31Z")
> [@Jplacer](#): > > “the bush that looks like Shirley Bassey” > > Shirley Bassey sang the theme song to “Goldfinger” > > Gold-FINGER!!! Also “Moonraker” and “Diamonds Are Forever”. But I’d probably say that “Goldfinger” is the most famous. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/96 "2004-06-03T15:27:41Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Well, I guess I can chalk it up to forgetting this scene altogether and therefore not having a frame of reference, but I still don’t getit. Please help the obviously obtuse here…? King Harold told Shrek to meet him for a father/son outing. Shrek and Donkey wandered around trying to find the meeting spot and Donkey says they’ve passed that bush that looks like Shirley Bassey before. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/97 "2004-06-03T16:18:22Z")
> [@Manda JO](#): > > They were obviously oompa-loompas. Thought of that but Oompa-Loompas aren’t known for wearing hazard suits. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/98 "2004-06-03T16:55:02Z")
When Shrek, Fiona and Donkey are driving through Far Far Away at the very beginning, I whispered to the missus: “If they don’t make a Beverly Hills Cop joke, they just missed a golden opportunity.” Alas, they did. Unless I missed one, which I doubt. Too bad. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/99 "2004-06-03T16:58:33Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > King Harold told Shrek to meet him for a father/son outing. Shrek and Donkey wandered around trying to find the meeting spot and Donkey says they’ve passed that bush that looks like Shirley Bassey before. But what’s the joke? Why didn’t they just say “Freddie Blassie”? Why didn’t they just say “Robert De Niro?” ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107/100 "2004-06-03T17:22:04Z")
Puss in boots was great. Like other posters have said before, it was funny how he would suddenly revert to very cat-like moments, like the hairball scene, or when he was licking himself and turned around with his tongue half hanging out I thought to myself, “Our cats do _exactly_ the same thing!” I thought the fight with Shrek vs Puss in Boots was hilariously anti-climactic. I was actually expecting a drawn out _fight_ scene, I mean Puss did have a sword after all. I almost fell out of my chair laughing when he burst out of Shrek’s shirt like a chestburster from Alien It was pretty funny to see Captain Hook as the piano player at the Poisoned Apple. And the Headless Horseman having a few too many and having to get dragged outside by some friends 😛 Some characters I didn’t recognize. For instance, there were 3 girls who woke Shrek up in the barn. I know one was Jill (of Jack and Jill fame), but who were the other two? (it was hinted that one of them was kind of, erm, promiscuous). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shrek-2/246107.md?page=6)