# Shriekers here - MrDibble, Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 21, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467 "2013-11-21T19:31:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/41 "2013-11-21T21:05:36Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It’s been answered. …and the answer’s been rebutted. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/42 "2013-11-21T21:06:39Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > Calling someone racist for using the common African American or black is wrong. He didn’t do that. > [@Der Trihs Pitting du jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/297): > > If you said “certain populations of African-Americans that we did studies on do” (and list the populations), you’d be in the clear. But\* any time \*you group “Blacks” into one group, you’re just flat-out wrong. > [@Der Trihs Pitting du jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-pitting-du-jour/566714/294): > > Anyone who _ever_ says anything remotely scientific-sounding, that uses the commonly used races, is a racist. As soon as someone says “Blacks [something scientific]”, he’s a racist. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/43 "2013-11-21T21:07:57Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > Calling someone racist for using the common African American or black is wrong. The people I was calling racist were _specifically_ those using the term “Black” for a race **in a scientific context** (and _more_ properly, a genetic one, lest the nitpickers descend again). I could give a shit about people using African-American. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/44 "2013-11-21T21:09:18Z")
"Than Dravidians and Melanesians? And if they’re from Ethiopia or Somalia? Hell yes, it’s racist to assume Blacks have more melanin than non-Blacks." MrDibble Do blacks, in the common American usage, have more melanin? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/45 "2013-11-21T21:14:15Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > "Than Dravidians and Melanesians? And if they’re from Ethiopia or Somalia? > > Hell yes, it’s racist to assume Blacks have more melanin than non-Blacks." MrDibble > > Do blacks, in the common American usage, have more melanin? More than who? “More” is a comparative. “More than Non-Blacks”? Hell no. African-Americans tend to be lighter-skinned than e.g Papuans or Tamils. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/46 "2013-11-21T21:15:52Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > "Than Dravidians and Melanesians? And if they’re from Ethiopia or Somalia? > > Hell yes, it’s racist to assume Blacks have more melanin than non-Blacks." MrDibble > > Do blacks, in the common American usage, have more melanin? You’re not going to win any points by having the same argument here you were having in the original thread. If you were smart, you’d slink away and save yourself more embarrassment, because it’s very clear that the longer this thread goes on, the worse you are going to look. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/47 "2013-11-21T21:16:39Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > Do blacks, in the common American usage, have more melanin? “Common American usage” stuff does not apply in a discussion of race and genetics - like our recurring trainwrecks where dipshits like **Chief Pedant** and **brazil84** pretend to be scientific. It looks to me like **MrDibble** made a point that was too nuanced for you and you’re bashing him for it. And of course you’re wrongly saying it makes him a racist even though you’ve already said that false accusations or racism are horrible. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/48 "2013-11-21T21:18:29Z")
Pretty damned thin to throw racist around on. Perhaps rather than racist, simply incorrect in their terminology? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/49 "2013-11-21T21:18:46Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > To save **magellan01** from shitting his pants again, I will say the “_people_ who accuse others of racism are the real racists!” thing is asinine. People who say that kind of thing have zero understanding of what racism actually is. [QUOTE=Marley23] Not only are you nitpicking, as is your wont, but this is fucking stupid. It was fucking stupid when the OP said it, which was why I called it fucking stupid, and it’s fucking stupid when you’re fucking stupidly saying it now. Which is why I’m calling it fucking stupid again. Are we clear yet? [/QUOTE] That’s it! You win the award of Most Full of Shit Mod. The fact that you had to put words in the OP’s mouth (while putting them in quotes, no less) in order to counter what he said with your stupidity displays either a rank dishonesty or a cavalier disregard for truth. The fact that you then attempt to minimize it by attacking the person who points it out to your dumb ass speaks equally well of you. And I love that you (a fucking Mod, no less) thinks that changing the words of another poster to say something he did _not_ say, is “nitpicking”. You know, I think you make a simple mistake. You think that because you get to where a Mod beanie that somehow you’re good at this whole debate thing. You’re not. You’re lazy in your thinking and as I just pointed out, cavalier with the truth. And if—impossible as it might seem—you ever do make a mistake and get called on it, you drop the shovel and hop in the back-ho. Varoom. VarOOM-VAROOOOOM. Dig in, Marley, old buddy. Dig in. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/50 "2013-11-21T21:19:37Z")
What discussion of genetics?!!! It was a pitting of Der Trihs and off launches Dibble. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/51 "2013-11-21T21:23:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > The fact that you had to put words in the OP’s mouth (while putting them in quotes, no less) The OP’s words were right there, moron. Do you think I was trying to trick someone? > [@](#): > > And I love that you (a fucking Mod, no less) thinks that changing the words of another poster to say something he did _not_ say, is “nitpicking”. This is a nitpick. The difference is “you calling me a racist makes you the real racist!” vs. “people who accuse others of racism are the real racists!” Meanwhile it’s turned out that the OP didn’t know what he was talking about and it looks like he’s about to make an ass of himself. Pull up a seat and show him how it’s really done! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/52 "2013-11-21T21:24:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He didn’t do that. HA!, all of sudden **Marley** is concerned with people keeping straight what others say. Now that’s some hilarious shit right there. If you like to commend him on this comedy gold, he’ll be having dinner tonight with Jerry Seinfeld at Mende’s. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/53 "2013-11-21T21:24:57Z")
Here I was, getting out my torch and pitchfork for a good old fashioned Der Trihs Pitting and I have to go back home disappointed. This thread sucks. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/54 "2013-11-21T21:28:20Z")
I made my point regarding Der Trihs earlier. MrDibble can lay back into his semantics, but the fact is he was calling another poster racist for simply QUOTING from another source that African Americans or blacks have a higher tendency to sickle cell anemia. We all damned well know what black and white in this country means. If you are going to call everyone who uses those terms in even medical studies racist, then I guess the whole country’s the KKK. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/55 "2013-11-21T21:30:31Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > If you like to commend him on this comedy gold, he’ll be having dinner tonight with Jerry Seinfeld at Mende’s. It’s Mendy’s, but I wouldn’t expect you to spell anything right either. > [@MostlyUseless](#): > > MrDibble can lay back into his semantics, but the fact is he was calling another poster racist for simply QUOTING from another source that African Americans or blacks have a higher tendency to sickle cell anemia. No, he wasn’t. Perhaps if you whined less about semantics and put a little more thought into understanding what people are specifically saying, you would not be so lost. Basically look at everything **magellan01** does and then do the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/56 "2013-11-21T21:31:14Z")
I have no issue with Marley, but this is tiring and the day is over. Yall take all this and strain some gnats; I am done. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/57 "2013-11-21T21:31:28Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The OP’s words were right there, moron. Do you think I was trying to trick someone? > > This is a nitpick. The difference is “you calling me a racist makes you the real racist!” vs. “people who accuse others of racism are the real racists!” Meanwhile it’s turned out that the OP didn’t know what he was talking about and it looks like he’s about to make an ass of himself. Pull up a seat and show him how it’s really done! Holy shit! You fucking did it again! Are you really that stupid?! Or is it that you’re THAT dishonest?!!! I pointed out your error to you and not only did you try to act the tough guy to minimize your error, you now repeat the same fucking error. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/58 "2013-11-21T21:31:58Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > What discussion of genetics?!!! It was a pitting of Der Trihs and off launches Dibble. You missed the bit where I had to explain why I thought **Shodan** was a racist? Which linked back to him carrying water for the scientific racists? Which linked back to all their race realism bullshit? All that, you missed? ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/59 "2013-11-21T21:33:47Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > "Than Dravidians and Melanesians? And if they’re from Ethiopia or Somalia? > > Hell yes, it’s racist to assume Blacks have more melanin than non-Blacks." MrDibble > > Do blacks, in the common American usage, have more melanin? Than who? Than whites? Than this one guy? Melanin level is one of the (but not the only) physical marker that is used to divide people into the cultural/ethnic groupings known as race. Asking whether a group defined by dark skin has dark skin is a bit circular. And of course it isn’t always true. Due to the fact that race is more cultural than biological, different people will be classified differently in different times and places. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467/60 "2013-11-21T21:33:48Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > We all damned well know what black and white in this country means. Besides being wrong, you shouldn’t assume that everyone who posts here is American. **MrDibble** is not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467.md?page=4)