# Shup up wiith the "shut up" already **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485 "2018-07-07T19:21:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/41 "2018-07-07T23:58:02Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I don’t really want to continue this because I will feel like I’m encouraging a pile on. And I don’t pay attention to which posters are the worst offenders on this. I will just say that my general impression is that their is a hyperbolic edge to the abuse he gets that at times seems more about recreational outrage than proportional response. I agree with you; that’s the way it always looks to me, too, when it crops up. People know they’ll get positive responses for the attacks. That’s very reinforcing. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/42 "2018-07-08T03:11:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Can I say shaddup? And how about the front door? May we shut that? mmm ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/43 "2018-07-08T05:18:55Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Thanks. … Well to be honest and clear I am not really defending you per se as much as I am objecting to the farts these assholes let loose with such regularity, emboldened with circle jerk bravery. Emboldened like any group of grade school bullies by the approval of others in the crowd and the silence of others like **Manda JO** who are afraid of becoming a target themselves if they speak up. (Oh my, someone I don’t know or give a shit about on a MB may call me DTard, or label me a “white knight”! My life is ruined! How _will_ I continue???) Your posts have never stood out to _me_ as especially egregious or annoying (and some posters’ posts do) but that is not the issue. While many of your posts that have had the abuse response have seemed very benign to me, the quality of your posts (or for that matter lack of) is not the issue. You could consistently be as annoying and irritating as these jerks say you are and I’d still find the groupthink “shut up” thing as something that stinks up the place. Not sure what those committed to this behavior think they are accomplishing by doing this other than the “hurr hurr good hit!” reinforcement of other jerks. Are they trying to drive you off the board by harassing you? Get you to change your posting style? Or just have fun ganging up together on someone they have decided they don’t like? Really the last and most pathetic one is the only one that fits. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/44 "2018-07-08T05:35:05Z")
Read about half of this without catching who you guys were talking about. Figured it might be **Vinyl Turnip** , and I was working on my “Hey, not _that_ bad!” post but… Well, good. Save it for later. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/45 "2018-07-08T07:48:48Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Y’all treat him with more respect–you don’t use slurs with him, you don’t write Shakesperian style insults the way you do with BigT. I think it’s fair to say I treat \*\*SlackInBrain \*\*with exactly zero respect and have no problem insulting him. Although even there, it’s his lovingly recounted fantasies of 14 y.o. transgirls soaping their penises that’s a leeeetle more bothersome than his admitted racism. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/46 "2018-07-08T07:52:21Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Seriously, not every zinger has to be given life. When someone posts a two sentence paragraph to you, your specific thoughts on each sentence is not required or recommended. Compose a single reply and work in your favourite zinger. When multi-quoting gets me so much love? Why would I ever stop? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/47 "2018-07-08T10:25:33Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > BTW. You let my “there” when it should have been “their” slide? What poor excuse for a pedant are you?!? [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sFacWGBJ_cs/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeAoAC8AGKAgwIABABGEYgRihlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBEfj0WZv8evWGEGos1BjFXX0IpEw "Shaddap You Face - Joe Dolce") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs) ---
**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/48 "2018-07-08T13:58:34Z")
Hey, BigT. I’ve never snarked on you and I generally agree with you about most things. But this is the problem: > [@BigT](#): > > I had a long post where I point out once again what’s really going on here People don’t want to be lectured. All of us are adults who are able to formulate opinions on things. Not all of our opinions are the same. Everyone feels that their own opinions are the “right” ones. Yours hold no more weight than mine or anyone’s. If you could just say what you think without adding “And anyone who disagrees is morally wrong!” people would be more likely to listen to you. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/49 "2018-07-08T17:30:43Z")
I _order_ you to _be_ _QUIET!!!_ (“Just one bottle. Just one jot. Just one tittle. That’s the lot.” - “Oh shut up”) ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/50 "2018-07-08T17:35:36Z")
I don’t agree with using “tard”, either, for reasons that have been stated. Sometimes **BigT** has a good point and for a long time, I wondered why people trolled him. Then he replied to me and I understood. He completely misrepresented what I posted and attributed opinions to me that I didn’t hold. He bulldozed right over my post and was dismissive of me because saying what he wanted to say was so much more important than being even halfway decent to me, someone who had never before said a bad word against him. I’m not into repeatedly hounding someone, but I understand the issues people have with him. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/51 "2018-07-08T20:25:20Z")
I endorse this pitting. > [@MandaJo](#): > > He’s like that girl at work who really is pretty awful, but everyone bitches so much it gets to the point that that person can’t cure cancer without making people roll their eyes. It’s pretty much this. His posts are a mixed bag, but aren’t uniformly awful: they mostly contain a core of a defensible idea. Which is why posters find them so annoying: if they were 100% awful they would be funnier. It’s gotten to the point where if he makes moral pronouncements he’s (accurately) criticized as being pompous but when he gamely makes it clear that’s it’s his opinion only - he’s criticized for talking about himself. Ludicrously hostile readings. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > **BigT** is just like nails on a chalkboard. Most people have already mentioned the lecturing, but all I’ll add another thing that pisses me off… Your constant and poorly substantiated attacks on BigT make you come off as obsessed, Guin. You’re not alone of course: **Morgenstern** has a veritable hard-on for the guy. I honestly don’t have problems with BigT. Seriously. None. I read the first couple of sentences from his post, get bored, then move on. It is a joy when guys like **Morgenstern** quote a couple of pompous paragraphs that I was wholly unaware of, because I didn’t make it to that part of his post. Happens all the time. Sort of a Streisand effect at work. Finally, geez Guin: compare this guy to the banned poster T he Ry an. Way different, risibly. > [@Helena330](#): > > I don’t agree with using “tard”, either, for reasons that have been stated. Sometimes **BigT** has a good point and for a long time, I wondered why people trolled him. Then he replied to me and I understood. He’s socially clueless in many ways. But check it out: he’s modified his posting habits, indicating a certain level of self awareness. He has a grasp of who he is. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/52 "2018-07-08T20:43:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > People show **SlackerInc** with respect? Since WHEN? I seem to remember him getting roundly criticized in his threads where he states that massive pile of bullshit. And how many times has **Shagnasty** been pitted? I’d say he’s far more loathsome that **BigT** , and I don’t think many would disagree. > **BigT** is just like nails on a chalkboard. Most people have already mentioned the lecturing, but all I’ll add another thing that pisses me off: his constant insistance that him (and anyone else) with a mental illness has to be treated with kid gloves, and shouldn’t have to follow the rules. It’s like, “well, they can’t always understand the way things work – they have X!!!” “Don’t you understand!!! You’re picking on me because I’m mentally ill!!!” > That kind of thing irritates the shit out of me. “You can’t pick on me – I’m ill!!!” FUCK THAT. He’s not the only one on this board with anxiety issues. There have been times he’s stated that certain people should get special treatment even after they specifically said they don’t want it. I HATE his patronizing attitude – that those who are sick are weak and feeble. > > **BigT** makes me think of nursing home attendents who talk down to the patients, like they’re children. “There Mrs. Smith, wasn’t that a nice meal? Did you want to go outside for lunch? Oh you forgot your sweater – now that wasn’t very nice to throw your juice on me! You know you’re not supposed to do that.” > Look, I like you **Manda Jo** , but I think you’re really off on this. No, I don’t think **BigT** reaches the depths of the other two. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be an annoying jagoff. Thanks for giving us the venomous yinzer toad take on this topic. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/53 "2018-07-08T21:21:52Z")
We’re seeing a lot of the old, “but he makes me bully him” defense in this thread. It never holds water. Just skip over his posts. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/54 "2018-07-08T21:44:05Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > We’re seeing a lot of the old, “but he makes me bully him” defense in this thread. It never holds water. > > Just skip over his posts. And the just skip over his posts argument which is even sillier. Anyone can just skip over posts. Just skip over the posts where BigT is being criticized. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/55 "2018-07-08T21:46:45Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > And the just skip over his posts argument which is even sillier. Anyone can just skip over posts. Just skip over the posts where BigT is being criticized. Oh bullshit. You’re a bully. Own it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/56 "2018-07-08T21:53:31Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Oh bullshit. > > You’re a bully. Own it. They’ll never own it. They get a sense of self worth belonging to a group that relentlessly and dishonestly bullies those they perceive as weak. A bunch of jackals but with less utility. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/57 "2018-07-08T23:21:49Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Oh bullshit. > > You’re a bully. Own it. Careful with that wide brush. You might put out an eye. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/58 "2018-07-08T23:54:16Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > When multi-quoting gets me so much love? Why would I ever stop? Shodan’s got his regards, Snowboarder shits in the quarry, BigT can’t possibly learn anything about ethics from anyone else, I see the whole world through the prism of third graders, and you multiquote the fuck out of every single post. We all have our quirks. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/59 "2018-07-09T02:07:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > People show **SlackerInc** with respect? Since WHEN? I seem to remember him getting roundly criticized in his threads where he states that massive pile of bullshit. And how many times has **Shagnasty** been pitted? I’d say he’s far more loathsome that **BigT** , and I don’t think many would disagree. … So sure, if there is a particular offensive post that deserves to be “roundly criticized” go for it. Opening up a Pit thread, or ten of them … sure. But here let’s look at his last post that provoked [the last time](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21068896&postcount=20) you graced these boards with your funny, clever, witty, and so useful contribution of “Shut up BigTard” That post is such egregious offensive shit? Not horrible points made actually, even if maybe they could have been made better. You think **Shagnasty** is so very loathsome yet do you go around telling him to shut up whatever and whenever he posts constantly? No, and do not suggest you do. Now excuse me, I just walked my dog in the yard and have some of you to scrape off my shoe … ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/60 "2018-07-09T04:23:42Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Now excuse me, I just walked my dog in the yard and have some of you to scrape off my shoe … :rolleyes: Very mature. It certainly makes me want to give your OP all of the consideration it deserves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485.md?page=4)