# Shup up wiith the "shut up" already **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485 "2018-07-07T19:21:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/101 "2018-07-10T16:55:05Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Go have intimate relations with the largest saguaro you can find. > > You, too. Really covering yourself with glory with your last few posts, dood. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/102 "2018-07-10T17:15:32Z")
Yeah, I think you better break out that secret truly horrifying thread you mentioned, cochrane. It’s the only way to turn this argument around for you. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/103 "2018-07-10T18:18:26Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Also: in my nearly 20 years here, I don’t think I’ve once seen someone use “butthurt” and not be an asshole. > > Coincidence? Confirmation bias. Or else you never read the “Tell Me About Hemorrhoids” threads. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/104 "2018-07-10T18:49:28Z")
Oh for fuck’s sake. [This](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686277) is the thread cochrane was referring to. I don’t necessarily find it horrifying myself, it’s just BigT’s usual white knighting bullshit along with some spreading of misinformation to fit the narrative he wants. It’s a sensitive subject because the poster he was defending (Opal) has passed on, but what’s being discussed here really has nothing to do with that part of it so I see no reason not to drop the link if someone feels it’s relevant. As for the OP, I had this to say once before about BigT getting made fun of all the time, and it pretty well sums up my take: > [@expectopatronum](#): > > It’s because he constantly lectures the rest of the board on morality and how people should live their lives and interact with other people as well as plenty of other topics. And it’s comical because he has little to no experience with interacting with the world at large. He’s said on multiple occasions the board is his entire life and that he literally lives in his mom’s basement. I feel pity for him at times, but he’s so self righteous and convinced he has the answer to everything that it’s pretty annoying. Would a class of medical students listen to a series of lectures from me about the best way to succeed in medical school? No, because I don’t know fuck all about medicine and I’m not a doctor. BigT doesn’t have much of a life and knows fuck all about the world so he should probably quit telling people how it works. I’d agree more with the bullying charge if it wasn’t for his constant lectures. This is the internet, where everyone is far more willing to say things that they’re too polite to face to face, and when you hang out on a board for years and have meltdowns about mod warnings (and then run over to the much decried by him snark board and try to rally the troops to start email bombing the mods here) (no, really) and tell everyone else how to live when you’ve admitted to being a basement dwelling shut-in, exactly what do you expect? If someone walks into a biker bar and yells out, I don’t fucking know, something that would piss off a bunch of bikers, he’d get his ass kicked, and it would be his own stupid fault. Same thing here. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/105 "2018-07-10T19:00:15Z")
Thanks, **expecto**. In hindsight, I should have gone ahead and posted the link. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/106 "2018-07-10T19:17:04Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > …something that would piss off a bunch of bikers, he’d get his ass kicked, and it would be his own stupid fault. Same thing here. “The reason you guys wear leather is because chiffon wrinkles too easily!”. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/107 "2018-07-10T19:31:59Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > But it wouldn’t hurt if he considered that his detractors have a point about his posting style. BigT is ridiculous and irritating. I don’t think he’s malicious. I think at least some of his detractors are acting through malice and a desire to hurt him. Not to make him change his posting style, but to make him suffer if he posts. The internet has a long memory, but we don’t need to encourage a sort of festering in-grown malice. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/108 "2018-07-10T19:34:09Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > If someone walks into a biker bar and yells out, I don’t fucking know, something that would piss off a bunch of bikers, he’d get his ass kicked, and it would be his own stupid fault. Same thing here. If we embrace this analogy, well, I would still want the bikers prosecuted for assault. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/109 "2018-07-10T19:38:42Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Go have intimate relations with the largest saguaro you can find. > > You, too. You get points for originality! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/110 "2018-07-10T19:46:47Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > If we embrace this analogy, well, I would still want the bikers prosecuted for assault. Yup–and if I ran my own bar, I wouldn’t want those violent dumbasses to come to it. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/111 "2018-07-10T19:51:19Z")
“That truck driver sure was chicken.” “Yeah, and he’s not a good driver, either. He just backed his rig over 20 motorcycles parked outside.” ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/112 "2018-07-10T20:10:14Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > “That truck driver sure was chicken.” > > “Yeah, and he’s not a good driver, either. He just backed his rig over 20 motorcycles parked outside.” Lonely old man trying to relive his long lost youth by bullying vulnerable guy. The problem with the other board is that it allows a lot of aggressive shit without the risk of aggressive shit coming back at them. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/113 "2018-07-10T20:16:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “The reason you guys wear leather is because chiffon wrinkles too easily!”. Taffeta, darling. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/114 "2018-07-10T20:22:57Z")
You can be _such_ a little bitch, sometimes! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/115 "2018-07-10T21:03:25Z")
Not going to do a long lecture since y’all hate those. But, **expecto** , dude. You just said that people deserve to be beat up for their speech. You once again use my admission of a mental illness as a way to attack me, erroneously assuming I’ve been a shut in most of my life, and then acting like that means I can’t have an opinion on things and should defer to my “betters.” I am trying to fix my own faults, but surely y’all can give me a pass for finding that bullshit disgusting. I am a human being. Treat me like the other human beings on this board. **If I’m wrong, prove me wrong!** If you want to call me names while you do it, fine. But all garbage like this does is make me think your complaints are bullshit. That’s why I don’t tend to “take complaints about my posting under advisement.” Just like telling me “shut up” makes me think of you [like this](https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/fingers-in-ears-gif-1.gif). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/116 "2018-07-10T21:04:26Z")
On the other hand, I will now take LHOD’s claim that I come on too strong and don’t (appear to) consider the other side under advisement. Granted, I’ve tried taking advice before, and it didn’t work, but LHOD is decent folk and seems to be trying to help. Though I do note that I’m not the only one who posts like that, but I’m the one that gets singled out. Again, that’s part of the reason I have a hard time taking advice on the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/117 "2018-07-10T21:14:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Though I do note that I’m not the only one who posts like that, but I’m the one that gets singled out. Do you have your own theory as to why it is that you’re “the one that gets singled out”? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/118 "2018-07-10T21:44:21Z")
A few quick thoughts, **BigT**. I mean you no ill, but I think you might be able to use these… First, it’s almost certainly best not to post an answer to **F-P** ’s question in post #117. Even if you manage an illuminating answer, you’re responding, as _the target_ of group animosity, to a request that you explain the animosity and the way it is manifested. That’s a recipe for further animosity and continued manifestations. Remember the [Ackbar Admonition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Ackbar#%22It's_a_trap!%22). Second, as someone who tends strongly to a disquisitive and verbose posting style, (or “pompous” if you like) I find careful self editing with extensive textual deletions is never a waste of my time. Lastly… the reason that _scoffing, deriding, dryly refuting_ or just flat out insulting other posters is better received than scolding and lecturing them is because the first set is what you do with peers, and the second set is what you do with underlings. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/119 "2018-07-10T21:49:46Z")
^Yeah, what (s)he said. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485/120 "2018-07-10T21:51:13Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Lonely old man trying to relive his long lost youth by bullying vulnerable guy. > > The problem with the other board is that it allows a lot of aggressive shit without the risk of aggressive shit coming back at them. there is not one damned thing keeping you from going over to The Other Board and posting all the aggressive shit you want, asshole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shup-up-wiith-the-shut-up-already/817485.md?page=7)