# Shut the fuck up about McDonald's Szechuan sauce

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488 "2017-10-10T14:55:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/41 "2017-10-11T21:04:41Z")

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It’s a great show. I love that show. A lot.

But if I’d known in advance that McDonalds was supposed to be offering Rick’s favorite sauce on a particular day, I still wouldn’t have gone. It would have been a total ‘meh’ for me. It has nothing to do with my appreciation for the writing and execution of the show.

What I’m trying to say is that every “fandom” is diverse. It contains some people who take the show or movie or graphic novel (or whatever), _way_ too seriously, and it contains other people who simply enjoy and respect the object of fandom.  
I _would_ be curious to know if the McDonalds executive who advanced this idea of 4000 packets for millions of fans, is being patted on the back for getting McD’s in the news, or is being booted downstairs. It would be an interesting story for some enterprising journalist to ferret out.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/42 "2017-10-11T21:45:00Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> A disproportionate number of humans are stupid assholes.

I never would have guessed 😃

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/43 "2017-10-12T03:00:04Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> A disproportionate number of humans are stupid assholes.

A disproportionate number of humans can’t be stupid assholes; that’s not how proportions work.

“A disproportionate number of RM fans are stupid assholes” means that there’s a greater percentage of assholes in the fandom than is represented in humanity at large.

…unless it’s ME that doesn’t understand how proportions work, in which case I am both stupid and an asshole for posting this.

(Also, if you’re yelling at some poor minimum wage worker just trying to get through a shift because some suit they’ve never met underestimated how important some meme sauce is to you, then you don’t deserve any satisfaction.)

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/44 "2017-10-12T03:05:29Z")

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you know I remember trying that sauce when they did the Mulan tie-in almost 2 decades ago and it was a slightly spiced up version on the normal mcd’s sweet and sour nugget sauce…

I remember no one was impressed about it… and given the average mental level of adult swim and its viewers its not surprising this thing went down in flames …

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/45 "2017-10-12T04:46:57Z")

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A disproportionate number of assholes in humanity would mean to me that there is some agreed upon number of assholes that should exist, and that humans have more. That works for the other situations, though the “agreed upon number of assholes” would be the average.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/46 "2017-10-12T12:13:03Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Does anyone seriously think this wasn’t the plan all along? I guarantee you, that by the time they made the announcement, they already had the recording in the can of the McDonald’s CEO saying that he’s surprised that there was so much popular demand for this product, and of course McDonald’s is going to do the best it can to live up to the expectations of its customers, since they have so clearly spoken.

Well, sure. What good is a degree in Multidimensional Chess from Trump University, if you’re not going to put it to use?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/47 "2017-10-12T12:34:56Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Does anyone seriously think this wasn’t the plan all along? I guarantee you, that by the time they made the announcement, they already had the recording in the can of the McDonald’s CEO saying that he’s surprised that there was so much popular demand for this product, and of course McDonald’s is going to do the best it can to live up to the expectations of its customers, since they have so clearly spoken.

It pisses me off that the McBig Shots did this to the front line workers. They fucking knew, all right.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/48 "2017-10-12T14:08:28Z")

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OK, i know nothing of this, nor McDonalds either, so looking it up:  
[**A diehard ‘Rick and Morty’ fan says he traded a VW Golf MK4 for a pack of McDonalds’ Szechuan sauce**](http://uk.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-sauce-szechuan-car-trade-2017-10?r=US&IR=T)  
[**Police Called in to Control Rick and Morty Szechuan Sauce Fiasco at La Brea McDonald’s**](https://la.eater.com/2017/10/9/16448332/mcdonalds-mulan-szechwan-sauce-rick-morty-riot-police)  
300 fans waited for 20 packets of sauce

Maybe it’s the End Times.[URL=“[Police Called in to Control Rick and Morty Szechuan Sauce Fiasco at La Brea McDonald’s - Eater LA](https://la.eater.com/2017/10/9/16448332/mcdonalds-mulan-szechwan-sauce-rick-morty-riot-police#comments)”]

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/49 "2017-10-12T14:26:49Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> That McDonald’s fucked up is true.
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> It’s also immaterial.
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> The large scale abuse of people not responsible for the fuckup (and, yes, it is large scale) is only the most recent incarnation of the fact that this fandom has way **too many goddamn Ricks**.

I don’t even watch the show, so much as I’m accidentally exposed to it in passing, but I’m positive that character’s role is not supposed to be aspirational.

Rick is not who you want to be, people. Rick is not who you should aspire to. Rick is not a role model, unless the role you want is “objectively terrible waste of oxygen.”

That is all.

Oh, yeah, back to original topic: Never tasted McDonald’s faux-Szechuan stuff, never developed an interest, and don’t believe the assholes in question have any legitimate beef other than “I NEED SUMFIN TO TROLL ABOUT.”

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/50 "2017-10-12T14:46:04Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Rick is not who you want to be, people. Rick is not who you should aspire to. Rick is not a role model, unless the role you want is “objectively terrible waste of oxygen.”
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> That is all.

Is there a point to this other than stating the obvious?

The same could be said for nearly every sitcom dad on TV.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/51 "2017-10-12T15:09:57Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Is there a point to this other than stating the obvious?
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> The same could be said for nearly every sitcom dad on TV.

If it were obvious, why do we pit off-board assholes?

I’m not addressing it to you. (Unless it’s appropriate. If the shoe fits…)

I’m addressing it to precisely the same assholes OP is pitting. That’s how pitting someone off-board works.

Is there any point to this, other than demonstrating you don’t understand how pitting works?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/52 "2017-10-12T15:10:01Z")

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_Nevermind. Not worth it_

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/53 "2017-10-12T15:29:41Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> If it were obvious, why do we pit off-board assholes?
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> I’m not addressing it to you. (Unless it’s appropriate. If the shoe fits…)
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> I’m addressing it to precisely the same assholes OP is pitting. That’s how pitting someone off-board works.
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> Is there any point to this, other than demonstrating you don’t understand how pitting works?

I get who you are pitting, I just think it’s ridiculous to criticize someone for being fans of a show that has characters that are less than admirable.

Everyone does that. Even you I bet.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/54 "2017-10-12T15:56:32Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> It pisses me off that the McBig Shots did this to the front line workers. They fucking knew, all right.

I agree. Whatever you may think about McDonald’s decision here, they screwed over their employees. Fast food workers already take so much shit from asshole customers. Why make it worse?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/55 "2017-10-12T16:07:46Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I get who you are pitting, I just think it’s ridiculous to criticize someone for being fans of a show that has characters that are less than admirable.
> 
> Everyone does that. Even you I bet.

He’s not criticizing people for being fans of the show. He criticizing fans of the show who apparently don’t understand the point that the show is trying to make.

The creators of the show don’t want you to idolize or emulate Rick; they want you to pity and laugh at and ridicule him. Unfortunately, some of the show’s fans seem to think that emulation is preferable.

It’s the same point that was being made in the article i quoted in my previous post.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/56 "2017-10-12T16:15:51Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> He’s not criticizing people for being fans of the show. He criticizing fans of the show who apparently don’t understand the point that the show is trying to make.
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> The creators of the show don’t want you to idolize or emulate Rick; they want you to pity and laugh at and ridicule him. Unfortunately, some of the show’s fans seem to think that emulation is preferable.
> 
> It’s the same point that was being made in the article i quoted in my previous post.

Okay. Point taken.

I was under the impression most folks enjoyed the show the same way I did (Which is the point and laugh method.).

I was going to try and score a pack, but when Saturday came, I decided to sleep in instead. And I’m glad I did too.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/57 "2017-10-12T16:20:35Z")

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> [@MikeG](#):
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> The OP is only partly right; the Szechuan sauce is a flash in the pan, what we really need back is the hot mustard!
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> The breakfast sandwiches are a pale shadow of their former selves without the hot mustard. Same for the nuggets they are barely edible now.

Hot Mustard is available in certain regions but not all. Chicago doesn’t have it, I know for sure.

HOWEVER, there’s a new Sriacha Mac Sauce - basically a spicy Big Mac sauce - that tastes a LOT like HM. Scratches that itch, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/58 "2017-10-12T16:22:29Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I agree. Whatever you may think about McDonald’s decision here, they screwed over their employees

How about we blame the people who were assholes to the employees more than we blame the corporation for having employees for the assholes to be assholes to.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/59 "2017-10-12T16:26:20Z")

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I’m not sure why you think I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-about-mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce/798488/60 "2017-10-12T16:59:34Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I’m not sure why you think I don’t.

The post you had made wasn’t about the asshole customers, but rather about McDonald’s actions. I, apparently mistakenly, figured that, in expressing disdain for McDonalds, but not for the sauce wanting customers, you were prioritizing who was more to blame.

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