# Shut the fuck up Kalt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2003, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378 "2003-06-12T17:08:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/21 "2003-06-12T23:23:31Z")
Congratulations,I’m not even going to give you a short heads up on “reading comprehension”. Got a really lame pitting and find out the pittee actually has people that agree with him. Hell,just misquote, then drag up some lame ass abstract bullshit like “thought police”. Reckon you derailed this thread quick enough. ---
**Author:** ![cabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@cabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/22 "2003-06-12T23:33:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Read\_Neck \* > \*\*Congratulations,I’m not even going to give you a short heads up on “reading comprehension”. Got a really lame pitting and find out the pittee actually has people that agree with him. Hell,just misquote, then drag up some lame ass abstract bullshit like “thought police”. Reckon you derailed this thread quick enough. \*\* This is the entire passage from the original thread: “I am all for targeted assassinations of terrorists. We did the right thing with Saddam, and Israel did the right thing with the Hamas leader. Israel also did the right thing today. They assassinated a member of Hamas. Any member of Hamas is open game. **And frankly, all these people yelling in the streets of Gaza should be open game, too**. Surely John Ashcroft and the PATRIOT Act would come to the same conclusion. If we (usa) had al Queda supporters and known members screaming and rioting in the streets after we attacked Afghanistan … I don’t think we’d be full of “restraint.” Nor should we be, nor should Israel be. **Again, Israel should be allowed to follow our example and lock up any Muslim it wants to, indefinitely, and without due process**. I see no reason we shouldn’t share Guantanimo with Israel, as those who comprise Israel’s terrorist problem are the same people who comprise ours.” (bolding mine) Please point out the misquote, since I would like to understand what you are trying to convey. I’m not really sure what is “lame” about calling someone out when that person advocates the killing of and unlawful imprisonment of other human beings based on their beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/23 "2003-06-12T23:36:24Z")
Wow. Dizzy, **Read\_Neck**? ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/24 "2003-06-13T01:03:14Z")
HOLY SHIT!!! Now we snuck “beliefs” in here. If you can’t differentiate between thoughts/beliefs and actual physical actions GET THE FUCK OFF THAT MORAL HIGHGROUND before your brain totally atrophys. With all the company you’ve got up there the air must be getting very thin. ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/25 "2003-06-13T02:33:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Again, Israel should be allowed to follow our example and lock up any Muslim it wants to, indefinitely, and without due process. Ummmm… **Read\_Neck** I’m pretty locking someone up or killing them simply because they are Muslim would qualify as being based on their beliefs. Unless of course I have things all wrong and since the last time I checked Islam was no longer a religion. ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/26 "2003-06-13T02:35:39Z")
Make that last one read “I’m pretty _sure_ locking…” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/27 "2003-06-13T04:37:22Z")
No poster in this thread has advocated jailing/killing anyone for their beliefs or thoughts. I have no more problem with the Muslim faith than I do the Christian. I take the Thomas Jefferson approach to both. Take the mumbo jumbo/voodoo crap out and it’s not bad. However,when belief turns to action the entire equation changes. Some people just can’t grasp the concept. ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/28 "2003-06-13T04:44:09Z")
Now I’m beginning to wonder if I’m being wooshed here…there is no way you could really have THAT much of a lack of reading comprehension skills. “Israel locking up any Muslim it wants to” seems to be based on religious beliefs to me. The only criterion stated for the arrest is the fact that the person is Muslim. He didn’t say “any Hamas (or suspected Hamas) it wants to,” or “any suspected terrorist it wants to” he said quite plainly Muslim. As far as I can see that’s pretty much based on beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/29 "2003-06-13T05:59:25Z")
**Read\_Neck** , What the fuck part of **“any Muslim”** do you not understand? Is Islam not a belief? ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/30 "2003-06-13T06:09:12Z")
The key word is “any” not “all”. Nobody is locked up in Guantonimo because of their beliefs but because of their actions. I’m sure some will shout down from the Mount of All Knowing Righteousness that this is the case. Damned shame they don’t have a lick of common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/31 "2003-06-13T06:26:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Read\_Neck \* > \*\*The key word is “any” not “all”. Nobody is locked up in Guantonimo because of their beliefs but because of their actions. I’m sure some will shout down from the Mount of All Knowing Righteousness that this is the case. Damned shame they don’t have a lick of common sense. \*\* You’re right…no one is locked up Guantonimo because of their beliefs. They’re locked up there because they’re terrorists and/or because they had ties to a known terrorist organization. Last I checked, being Muslim was not a terrorist act, nor is it an automatic tie to terrorism. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/32 "2003-06-13T06:26:48Z")
Ye gads, is it time to start the countdown? ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/33 "2003-06-13T06:28:01Z")
For who? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/34 "2003-06-13T06:34:50Z")
My apologies, **Meros**. I’m waiting for Mr. **Read\_Neck** to stick his fingers in his ears and start singing “LALALALALA! I CAN’T HEAR YOU! LALALALA!” Sorry for any confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/35 "2003-06-13T06:37:31Z")
I’m waiting for it too **Darth**. I was wondering if you were looking for a countdown on **Read\_Neck** or the original pittee. ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/36 "2003-06-13T07:04:40Z")
If you can’t see the problem with your last post I can’t help you. It’s late, so I’m gonna go out back and have an intelligent conversation with a fencepost. See’ya ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/37 "2003-06-13T07:22:19Z")
_DING_ That was quick. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/38 "2003-06-13T07:27:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Read\_Neck \* > \*\*If you can’t see the problem with your last post I can’t help you. It’s late, so I’m gonna go out back and have an intelligent conversation with a fencepost. See’ya \*\* Good idea. You gotta punch your weight. With practice, you might be able to work your way up to animate objects. ---
**Author:** ![spanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@spanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spanna)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/39 "2003-06-13T07:36:33Z")
> [@](#): > > You’re right…no one is locked up Guantonimo because of their beliefs. They’re locked up there because they’re terrorists and/or because they had ties to a known terrorist organization. In that case nobody will ever be released from Guantanamo … in fact they don’t even need a trial, you’ve already said they are all guilty. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378/40 "2003-06-13T12:53:16Z")
Details details…I was stupid enough to post at 3am, naturally here in the US they’re innocent util proven guilty. IIRC though Israel deals with things in the opposite manner (hows that for trying to di my way out of an obvious logical error?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-kalt/181378.md?page=3)