# Shut the fuck up, Ricky Gervais. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 16, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851 "2015-04-16T18:17:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/321 "2015-04-20T12:24:34Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Nevermind, I googled it. Yeah, it’s pretty easy to find. It’s not just a joke with him, either. He advocates it as a way of life: [Ricky Gervais calls for more stigma around obesity](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2974135/Ricky-Gervais-calls-for-more-stigma-around-obesity.html) — > [@](#): > > Ricky Gervais says obese people should be greeted in the street as “fatty” to shame them into losing weight. > > The comic said: "I don’t think there’s enough stigma. With all the political correctness now, and the fact that food is so refined, there’s no stigma any more. > > "I laugh about being fat but I should be ashamed. I should walk down the street and have people shouting ‘Fatty’. It’s astonishing to me that he thinks there isn’t already enough stigma and shame. The whole shaming thing fits his personality. He’s a brilliant comedian, though. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/322 "2015-04-20T13:25:42Z")
People have been making references to a crossbow. I’m fairly certain that she used a compound bow. The video and her comments make that clear. The text of the article attached to the video refers to a crossbow. I think that’s probably just ignorance on the part of the author. I’ve seen this before. People not familiar with modern archery tackle often think that a compound bow is a crossbow at first glance. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/323 "2015-04-20T13:35:21Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Antihunters have no real ammunition not given them by “hunters.” Plenty of antis don’t know a single hunter or anything about hunting. That ignorance doesn’t stop them from having a opinion. > [@](#): > > There is fair-chase hunting: pursue free wild quarry on foot. No vehicles, no traps, no dogs, no bait. > > Yes, it’s harder. Are you trying to tell me about hunting? You know that certain types of hunting use dogs or bait, right? If you go duck hunting, is it not “fair chase” to have a retriever? If you want to walk into the woods and look for a black bear without dogs or bait… Good luck. You wouldn’t get one in a lifetime of trying. Bait and dogs are used because it’s the only way to be successful, and it’s far from guaranteed. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/324 "2015-04-20T15:01:02Z")
> [@Tibby or Not Tibby](#): > > [Here you go](http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag75/DocDanz57/sd/giraffe_zpsvqb0hgru.jpg). You may close this thread now. I find it odd that any guy suffering from gynecomastia would lie down next to a giraffe neck sandwich? It’s obvious from his smile that he intends to kill and eat the photographer. And what’s up with the Charlie Brown shirt-stain on the giraffe sausage? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/325 "2015-04-20T16:12:05Z")
Jon Ronson has recently published a book about this kind of thing. — [Jon Ronson’s ‘So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed’ - The New York Times](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/jon-ronsons-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed.html?referrer=) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/326 "2015-04-20T16:33:15Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Jon Ronson has recently published a book about this kind of thing. — [http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/jon-ronsons-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed.html?referrer=](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/jon-ronsons-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed.html?referrer=) I refuse to listen to that guy until he de-Spoonerizes his name. ---
**Author:** ![Teach-me-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@Teach-me-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teach-me-not)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/327 "2015-04-20T16:37:39Z")
> [@Tibby or Not Tibby](#): > > Does Rebecca’s (or any hunters) intent really matter all that much? I don’t think so. Intent matters, at times, with regard to the legal and moral intricacies of homicide, but not so much with regard to responsible hunting of animals. Do hunters enjoy hunting? I have no doubt the vast majority of them do. And, I don’t have a problem with that as long as they hunt legally and responsibly. > > \ > > Certainly, there must be some hunters who do kill solely for the pleasure of killing, but just like murderers who kill for the thrill of killing, they are sociopaths. They are the subset of hunters/society to be shunned and put away. Thoroughly enjoyed this post, thank you. As obvious as this sounds, I just had that tiny light bulb in my brain that went, “Gee, guess some of these hunters might only be happy about completing a good challenge, rather than gloating over their new trophy.” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/328 "2015-04-20T16:39:34Z")
At least she didn’t use a selfie stick ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/329 "2015-04-20T16:51:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I refuse to listen to that guy until he de-Spoonerizes his name. I kinda like it. Jon Ronson. Jon Ronson. Jon Ronson. Though to be fair I imagine it being pronounced by an Asian with EASL. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/330 "2015-04-20T17:28:52Z")
> [@camille](#): > > Not quite. I didn’t say anything about how people “should” feel or how they “should” derive pleasure. I said we are all in a different place on the empathy spectrum, and I personally cannot relate to someone who enjoys killing because they are too far away from me on the spectrum. “Hunters don’t have as much empathy as I do, but I’m _totally_ not judging them!” Yeah, that’s exactly what you’re doing. > [@](#): > > Anyone who is reading our exchanges (and you know there are a few since you’ve already inspired ridicule, thanks so much!) can see that there was nothing in my posts that inspired your vitriol that was condescending, or patronizing, or any of the other lies you childishly included in your passive aggressive remarks about me in your replies to other posters. Nothing. And you know it. You sure about that? _Really_ sure? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/331 "2015-04-20T17:45:21Z")
> [@camille](#): > > Short of that, I have no problem avoiding you, as long as you do the same, and keep my name out of your fucking mouth. It’s more of a case of just you should avoid **LHoD**. He beat you like a gong in this discussion. I’d say you should bow out while you still have your dignity, but…too late. “Keep my name out of your fucking mouth?” Really? _Really?_ What are you, 12 years old? Did you have your best gangsta expression on when you typed that? ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/332 "2015-04-20T18:29:03Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I find it odd that any guy suffering from gynecomastia would lie down next to a giraffe neck sandwich?.. Hey, don’t knock gynecomastia, it gives me something to play with when I’m too busy to date. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/333 "2015-04-20T19:54:33Z")
Until this thread, I have agreed with literally every word I’ve ever known **LHoD** to type. In this thread, I don’t quite agree with him, but I can see he’s got a reasonable point of view. His aggravation towards **camille** , however, I find completely unaccountable–and out of character. Do they have a past? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/334 "2015-04-20T20:03:10Z")
I’d rather let the subject drop and focus instead on the issues contained in the OP, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/335 "2015-04-20T22:19:38Z")
So no posing with your trophy, then? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/336 "2015-04-20T22:23:16Z")
> [@Tibby or Not Tibby](#): > > Hey, don’t knock gynecomastia, it gives me something to play with when I’m too busy to date. This thread is just fine without pics. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/337 "2015-04-20T22:48:59Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > So no posing with your trophy, then? Pose all you want. If you decide to take pictures and put them on the Internet don’t be surprised when people find it objectional. If people do object getting all self righteous about it probably isn’t going to help your defense. Ignore the haters and move on. I don’t like Ricky Gervais. I didn’t know who this lady was till this tread. I now don’t like her either. I don’t think either person is really in the wrong. Ricky comments were not horribly offensive nor did were they enciting violence towards her. Ricky should probably ask his fans not to send death threats now, but it’s not his fault they did to begin with. If people want to gun down animals there is no shortage of whatever. It doesn’t bother me nor does it impress me. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/338 "2015-04-20T23:08:28Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > If people want to gun down animals there is no shortage of whatever. Totally bro. But personaly I prefer to ram animals with my SUV rather than gunning them down. I had a special grill guard fitted. It’s a bitch to clean. People seem impressed by the pictures though, so it all works out. ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/339 "2015-04-20T23:08:29Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “Hunters don’t have as much empathy as I do, but I’m _totally_ not judging them!” > > Yeah, that’s exactly what you’re doing. > > You sure about that? > > _Really_ sure? First of all, I never said all hunters, it was specific to people who enjoy killing for the sake of killing. Second, is not relating to someone judging them? Did you miss the post where I said it’s the way we are wired so there is no defense required? Did you miss the post where I said I don’t indulge in online shaming, or doxing, and don’t seek out people like that to vilify? That isn’t enough? Should I instead go out of my way to form close relationships with people I don’t relate to to prove I’m not judgemental? Pretend I feel the same way so I don’t hurt their feelings? If that’s your definition of judgemental, then we are all guilty of it for one reason or another. I’m not the only person who feels this way in this thread, and you’re not the only one with a different reaction. People are different, and acknowledging that isn’t attacking them. Attacking them for _being_ different is something else, and I said specifically I wasn’t on board with that. So what justifies my being attacked in this thread? And why just me, and not the others who feel the same way? Where is the dishonesty and the backpedaling and the goal shifting I was accused of? If your example above is the best you can come up with, then yes, I’m sure anyone\* who reads it will see the attacks were baseless. \*let’s change it to anyone without an agenda of their own or conflicting loyalties to the involved parties. We’re only human, after all. > [@Scumpup](#): > > It’s more of a case of just you should avoid **LHoD**. He beat you like a gong in this discussion. I’d say you should bow out while you still have your dignity, but…too late. “Keep my name out of your fucking mouth?” Really? _Really?_ What are you, 12 years old? Did you have your best gangsta expression on when you typed that? I see you’re a fan of the same dishonest tactic of proclaiming something to be true without providing a shred of evidence. Say it often enough and maybe people will believe it, right? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/340 "2015-04-20T23:42:31Z")
> [@camille](#): > > First of all, I never said all hunters, it was specific to people who enjoy killing for the sake of killing. So, you’re excusing subsistence hunters. And including the vast majority of people hunters from developed nations, who hunt not for survival, but just because they like hunting. > [@](#): > > Second, is not relating to someone judging them? No, that’s not judging them. “They’re not as empathic as I am,” on the other hand, is absolutely and unequivocally judging people. > [@](#): > > Did you miss the post where I said it’s the way we are wired so there is no defense required? Yeah, not clear on how that idea makes it better. You’re basically dehumanizing people because you don’t approve of their hobby: they just broken by nature, the poor things, and can’t help what they do. When you were asking earlier about when you’d been condescending in this thread? Right there is a prime example of it. > [@](#): > > Did you miss the post where I said I don’t indulge in online shaming, or doxing, and don’t seek out people like that to vilify? That isn’t enough? You’re bragging that you don’t break the law? Good for you. I, personally, have never tracked someone down and set fire to their house because we got in an argument on the internet. Do I get a cookie for that? > [@](#): > > Should I instead go out of my way to form close relationships with people I don’t relate to to prove I’m not judgemental? Pretend I feel the same way so I don’t hurt their feelings? If that’s your definition of judgemental, then we are all guilty of it for one reason or another. Or just not be a prick about it on the internet. That’s always an option. > [@](#): > > So what justifies my being attacked in this thread? And why just me, and not the others who feel the same way? “Just you?” Get over yourself. You’re hardly the only person who’s taken a little stick in this thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851.md?page=18)