# Shut the fuck up, Ricky Gervais.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 16, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851 "2015-04-16T18:17:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/21 "2015-04-16T19:35:52Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Are the village people, who presumably have lived near giraffes all their lives, not capable of dealing with such a situation unless a great white hunter is nearby?

They hadn’t mastered bow & arrow technology enough to kill a senile and half-dead giraffe.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/22 "2015-04-16T19:37:52Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Lots of people, I’m pretty sure.

[Millionaires, even.](http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/alaska-the-last-frontier/videos/the-kilchers-unique-eats/)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/23 "2015-04-16T19:39:42Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> That’s a weird explanation. Are the village people, who presumably have lived near giraffes all their lives, not capable of dealing with such a situation unless a great white hunter is nearby? I feel like there’s some missing information.

I suspect it was less “Bwana, would you do our poor village this great favour?” and more “wanna kill a big bull giraffe? $5000 and he’s all yours.”

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/24 "2015-04-16T19:41:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Who eats bears?

The Green Bay Packers, twice a season. 🙂

On a more serious note, I do, but I prefer venison. Haven’t had bear roast in over a decade. ☹

> **[Wild Game Recipes | Bear Recipes](https://www.cajuncookingrecipes.com/wildgamerecipes/wild_game_recipes_bear_recipes.htm)**
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> Wild Game Recipes For Cooking Bear include, Braised Bear Steak, Country Style Bear, and many more recipes.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/25 "2015-04-16T19:45:16Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> That’s a weird explanation. Are the village people, who presumably have lived near giraffes all their lives, not capable of dealing with such a situation unless a great white hunter is nearby? I feel like there’s some missing information.

I assume the Village People are waiting for the government to handle the situation for them. There are strict laws against poaching.

Or they’re singing YMCA.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/26 "2015-04-16T19:46:05Z")

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I fucking detest that useless fat little cunt, I really do hate Ricky Gervais.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/27 "2015-04-16T19:48:37Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Who eats bears?

My copy of _The Joy of Cooking_ has a couple of bear recipes.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/28 "2015-04-16T19:48:40Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> I do have an issue with her posing next to the dead animal with a big proud smile on her face. IMO she should have shown more respect for his sacrifice.

HIS sacrifice? Look, when I work late, I’m making a sacrifice. When I give money to charity, I’m making a sacrifice. If I threw myself in front of a bullet to save my kid, I’d be making a sacrifice.

But this giraffe didn’t make a sacrifice. Dude got shot. Nobody consulted him, he had no part in that decisionmaking process.

On the other hand, why should she show him any respect? Is he gonna be sad because he got disrespected? “Oh no, someone shot and killed me and chopped me up for food, but what really bothers my giraffe ghost is the smile on her face”? What does a live giraffe need with her respect, let alone the giraffe she just killed?

I think there’s way too much anthropomorphizing going on in that post. Either it was okay for her to shoot the giraffe or it wasn’t (I come down squarely on the “okay” side of things, surely a surprise for those who think I’m cryptoPETA 🙂 ), but I see no reason for her not to smile by the carcass, dance by the carcass, or put a funny hat on the carcass and draw a mustache on its giraffey lips. Animals don’t care about that shit.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/29 "2015-04-16T19:49:24Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> That’s a weird explanation. Are the village people, who presumably have lived near giraffes all their lives, not capable of dealing with such a situation unless a great white hunter is nearby? I feel like there’s some missing information.

If I can guess I would say that she was there specifically to hunt on a preserve that allows it. From my understanding those places are controlled and you have to pay to hunt. Anyone without the proper permits would be poaching. The locals may not legally be allowed to hunt.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/30 "2015-04-16T19:49:39Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Are the village people, who presumably have lived near giraffes all their lives, not capable of dealing with such a situation unless a great white hunter is nearby?

That’s a very good question. Is it possible that the village people didn’t have the proper equipment or techniques to dispatch the animal as quickly and humanely as possible with minimal trauma to the meat, and the “great white hunter” did?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/31 "2015-04-16T19:50:48Z")

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She used a bow and arrow.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/32 "2015-04-16T19:53:35Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> She didn’t kill him for “fun”. The village people went to her, explained that the giraffe was old and had been ostracized from his herd, he was miserable and dying and could she please dispatch him so they could use him for food. She agreed, they did, and none of the animal was wasted (his bones were even used.)
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> I am a vegetarian who pretty much likes animals more than I like people. In this instance, _ **after reading her explanation of the event** _, I have no problem with what she did.
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> I do have an issue with her posing next to the dead animal with a big proud smile on her face. IMO she should have shown more respect for his sacrifice.

Why do you believe her explanation of the event? Why do you think that village was incapable of dispatching that giraffe until she happened along?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/33 "2015-04-16T19:53:57Z")

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So many Africans are dependent on rich white she-hunters to feed them and yet they wonder why there’s a problem with starvation in their nation.  
What are they going to do sometime when there’s rampant malnutrition and all the rich white women with guns are busy?

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/34 "2015-04-16T19:53:59Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Anyone without the proper permits would be poaching. The locals may not legally be allowed to hunt.

That makes sense too.

Side note: I saw a comment on a Facebook post regarding this issue that said if the animal was dying anyway a vet should have put it down … yeah, because there are veterinarians all over Africa who can simply walk up to a massive wild animal and inject it with a little tiny needle.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/35 "2015-04-16T19:56:10Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> She used a bow and arrow.

I saw **Loach** ’s comment after I posted. I think their idea might be the right answer. (Locals aren’t allowed to hunt in that area.)

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**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/36 "2015-04-16T19:56:24Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> That’s a very good question. Is it possible that the village people didn’t have the proper equipment or techniques to dispatch the animal as quickly and humanely as possible with minimal trauma to the meat, and the “great white hunter” did?

You’d think between a cop, a sailor, an outlaw biker, a construction worker and a native American they’d be able to come up with something that could kill a giraffe.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/37 "2015-04-16T19:57:43Z")

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Francis and Sacco wanted attention and they got it. Fuck them, who cares?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/38 "2015-04-16T19:58:05Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> That’s a very good question. Is it possible that the village people didn’t have the proper equipment or techniques to dispatch the animal as quickly and humanely as possible with minimal trauma to the meat, and the “great white hunter” did?

I think **Enginerd** is almost certainly right… they could easily have dealt with it themselves, but figured she’d pay for the right to do so. Which is perfectly fine, aside from the insanely patronizing way she describes it. (Assume that that’s in fact what happened.)  
I find it incredibly unlikely that an entire village of people who actually live there and have to deal with large animals as a life-or-death proposition would be unable to kill an aging giraffe in a vaguely humane fashion if they really needed to.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/39 "2015-04-16T19:58:56Z")

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Rebecca Francis posing with:

The [Long Horned Sheep that was raping nuns in Tasmania](http://www.trophytaker.com/z_trophyroom.asp?ID=173)

[The morbidly depressed lion who begged to be allowed to die with dignity at the Atlanta zoo](https://causes-prod.caudn.com/photos/photos/Yd/rX/pR/Sc/Ei/0T/aB/duB.jpg)

[The transgendered yak-musk ox hybrid who was eating children until a village in Saskatchwan begged her to liberate them](http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/57565.jpg)

[The zebra who killed Jon-Benet Ramsey and whose death finally brought her family some peace](http://rebeccafrancis.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/DSC00125-copy.png)

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/40 "2015-04-16T19:59:37Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Who eats bears?

I do.

Plenty of other people do, too.

[http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/bearmeat.html](http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/bearmeat.html)

[http://everymeat.com/bear-meat/](http://everymeat.com/bear-meat/)

> **[How I Ended Up With 60 Pounds of Bear Meat in My Fridge—and Cooked It All](https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/01/bear-meat-how-i-ended-up-with-60-pounds-of-it-and-cooked-it-all.html)**
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> The growl of my truck engine dropped an octave as I shifted gears to climb a hill and then began making my way around a bend. The twisty road in the...

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