# Shut the fuck up, Ricky Gervais.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 16, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851 "2015-04-16T18:17:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/81 "2015-04-16T21:13:26Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Nothing “happened” to me. I simply enjoy every step of the process from hunt to kill to eat to cook to eat. I don’t need to make excuses or justify any part of that to scabrous taints like Gervais or prissy hypocites on the SDMB.

It’s okay to like hunting. You’re a shitty person for a ton of other reasons. \<3

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/82 "2015-04-16T21:13:44Z")

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‘I like the Walrus best,’ said Alice: ‘because he was a little sorry for the poor oysters.’  
‘He ate more than the Carpenter, though,’ said Tweedledee. ‘You see he held his handkerchief in front, so that the Carpenter couldn’t count how many he took: contrariwise.’  
‘That was mean!’ Alice said indignantly. ‘Then I like the Carpenter best—if he didn’t eat so many as the Walrus.’  
‘But he ate as many as he could get,’ said Tweedledum.  
This was a puzzler. After a pause, Alice began, ‘Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—’

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/83 "2015-04-16T21:15:40Z")

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Honestly, whether you feel sorry for the poor oysters or grin your goddamned head off makes no nevermind to the oysters, and I don’t understand why it should make any evermind to me.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/84 "2015-04-16T21:15:57Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> …to play the black seven on the red six…

Uh, I don’t know quite how to break this to you…

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/85 "2015-04-16T21:17:39Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It’s okay to like hunting. You’re a shitty person for a ton of other reasons. \<3

Somehow, I shall press onwards without your good opinion.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/86 "2015-04-16T21:24:36Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> She didn’t kill him for “fun”. The village people went to her, explained that the giraffe was old and had been ostracized from his herd, he was miserable and dying and could she please dispatch him so they could use him for food.

So she’s an idiot who knows nothing about the social structure of the animal she’s killed, then. Giraffes don’t _have_ herds to be ostracized from. Older males are _usually_ solitary.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/87 "2015-04-16T21:32:13Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Kicked out of the HERD.
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> One other giraffe does not make a HERD.
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> See, HERD animals can be cruel. They kick out aged, infirm, and weak-minded herd members.

**Giraffes don’t have HERDS.**

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/88 "2015-04-16T21:35:54Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> **Giraffes don’t have HERDS.**

Not in the sense of any continuous cohesive group, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/89 "2015-04-16T21:37:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So she’s an idiot who knows nothing about the social structure of the animal she’s killed, then. Giraffes don’t _have_ herds to be ostracized from. Older males are _usually_ solitary.

It looks like you’re right–but it sounds like she had a guide who fed her a line of bullshit. I’m not sure the blame is on her for not being up to snuff on her giraffe sociology, if she had a guide she thought she could rely on.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/90 "2015-04-16T21:38:00Z")

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I’d just like to point out what no one has mentioned. Bow hunting is incredibly difficult. Bow Hunting Brown Bear, Moose, Wilda beast (and Rams?) is difficult and dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/91 "2015-04-16T21:42:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You’ll have to excuse us if we have some trouble sifting your “point” from that wreckage of a post you try to pass off as an argument.

…bla bla bla…

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> Yeah, stupid me, not being able to divine exactly what sort of pictures you were talking about. I figures you were talking about Abu Ghraib, or something similar, because if you’re going to bring up wholly irrelevant subjects in a pathetic attempt to score some sort of emotional cheap shot, you’d want to go as big as possible. If you’re talking about soldiers who have just survived a legitimate military engagement, yeah, fucking smile away.
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> But thanks for the clarification, because when I first read that post, I thought, “How could this person get any stupider?” That question has now been answered.

Yeah, stupid you.

Did you get that out of your system? Good for you. I wasn’t going for an emotional cheap shot, I posted an analogy.

I won’t go any further with the analogy though, because you are still too thick to get it. I wasn’t talking about soldiers smiling after surviving a legitimate military engagement. I was talking about soldiers after surviving a legitimate military engagement posing with their thumbs up over the body of their enemy for a photo, of them literally pissing on their bodies and occasionally playing with the skulls. You know, that sort of disrespectful stuff that actually happened.

Some things need to be done. We need to eat: so we hunt, we harvest, we kill. Wars need to be fought, so we destroy and we kill. Asking people to be respectful when we do things that need to be done isn’t that onerous of a request.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/92 "2015-04-16T21:45:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It looks like you’re right–but it sounds like she had a guide who fed her a line of bullshit.

I don’t know about you, but if I’m going to travel the world killing things, I’d hope I’d do _some_ reading of my own before shooting the fuck out of the local wildlife.

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> I’m not sure the blame is on her for not being up to snuff on her giraffe sociology, if she had a guide she thought she could rely on.

I’d say it makes her an even bigger idiot, buying whatever gets told to her (which I’m dubious was the case, anyway - do we have the guide saying this on tape, or is this her say-so?)

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**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/93 "2015-04-16T21:46:52Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Honestly, whether you feel sorry for the poor oysters or grin your goddamned head off makes no nevermind to the oysters, and I don’t understand why it should make any evermind to me.

Oysters (dead or alive) don’t care about a lot of things that are important to human beings. How is that relevant?

Personally, “enjoys killing” isn’t on my short list of desirable traits to seek out or admire in other people.

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/94 "2015-04-16T21:46:53Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Hunting is fun and deeply satisfying. Gervais is an inexplicably famous menstrual clot.

Speak for yourself. Hunters disgust me. _Especially_ ones who do it “for sport.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/95 "2015-04-16T21:46:53Z")

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> [@Robert163](#):
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> I’d just like to point out what no one has mentioned. Bow hunting is incredibly difficult. Bow Hunting Brown Bear, Moose, Wilda beast (and Rams?) is difficult and dangerous.

Wilderbeest.

And who gives a fuck how dangerous it was? I seriously doubt she didn’t also have a gun, or a guide with a gun.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/96 "2015-04-16T21:48:52Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Hunting is fun and deeply satisfying. Gervais is an inexplicably famous menstrual clot.

These two statements can both be true, and still not invalidate the opinion that the woman in the OP is an insufferable fame whore, trolling the environmentalists of the world for fun and profit.

I have no problems with hunting. I have no problems with managing wildlife populations and culling. I’m not a fan of trophy hunting, but it’s not the worst thing in the world if done legally and as part of wildlife management. I still think this woman is pretty awful.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/97 "2015-04-16T21:50:20Z")

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> [@racepug](#):
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> Speak for yourself. Hunters disgust me. _Especially_ ones who do it “for sport.”

Cry every time you eat. Even if you never eat a bite of meat, animals died to produce the food on your table. Choke down every guilty bite and make sure you don’t enjoy a single morsel of it. Monster.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/98 "2015-04-16T21:52:54Z")

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> [@Robert163](#):
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> I’d just like to point out what no one has mentioned. Bow hunting is incredibly difficult. Bow Hunting Brown Bear, Moose, Wilda beast (and Rams?) is difficult and dangerous.

I watched the video. It didn’t look all that hard.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/99 "2015-04-16T21:53:20Z")

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> [@Robert163](#):
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> I’d just like to point out what no one has mentioned. Bow hunting is incredibly difficult. Bow Hunting Brown Bear, Moose, Wilda beast (and Rams?) is difficult and dangerous.

Squirrel…well, they’re difficult anyway. Not so much dangerous.

Granted, she’s good at it. Archers impress the heck out of me with their accuracy, whether targets or prey.

I don’t see how it really affects whether she’s a goddess doing righteous wonders, or kind of a self-righteous amoral bitch.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-the-fuck-up-ricky-gervais/717851/100 "2015-04-16T21:56:07Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Wilderbeest.

Aaargh. Gaudere!

Wildebeest.

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