# Shut up and read, octopus, and you might learn something **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138 "2016-10-10T08:51:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/101 "2016-10-12T04:23:18Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Hewey’s posting history may solve that mystery for you; if they’re still posting here after [Taco Tuesday](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrXSQVYUAAE72r6.jpg) about anything but how poorly Trump’s been treated I will eat my hat in place of a turkey at Thanksgiving. > My question is whether they’re a volunteer or if they’re getting a paycheck out of this astroturfing effort. Yet another smear that I’m either a troll, sockpuppet, or something else nefarious. Unreal how you handle a dissenting opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/102 "2016-10-12T04:30:45Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Silly me. I thought a person could recognize two different statements as being two different statements, not that they could be cut and pasted to make whatever point you want to make. > > You really have to resort to that to make your point? > > Sad. It’s a fucking joke. The crossplay between the two distinct statements is _funny_. And here I thought it was Trump voters complaining about PC idiots not getting jokes. > [@](#): > > Nothing, outside of me voting against your wishes. Nononono. Let’s get this clear here. Voting for Paul Ryan for Senate would be “voting against my wishes”. I dislike Ryan’s policies, his opinions, and I think he’s pretty lousy for this country. But you’re not crazy for voting for him. You just have different priorities or different information. Voting for Trump is blinkered insanity predicated on a complete unwillingness to see any of the myriad of utterly disqualifying flaws on full display in a candidate who could not be less well-suited for the job if he was \*\*DerekMichaels00 \*\*trying out for the fucking GLAAD basketball team. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/103 "2016-10-12T04:43:39Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Voting for Paul Ryan for Senate would be “voting against my wishes”. I dislike Ryan’s policies, his opinions, and I think he’s pretty lousy for this country. But you’re not crazy for voting for him. You just have different priorities or different information. I don’t live in Wisconsin so it’s not my decision who’s elected there. Nor is it who’s speaker of the house. I’m sure I could cut and paste some comments together to make that funny as hell though. Or not. That’s not my kind of humor. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Voting for Trump is blinkered insanity predicated on a complete unwillingness to see any of the myriad of utterly disqualifying flaws on full display in a candidate who could not be less well-suited for the job if he was \*\*DerekMichaels00 \*\*trying out for the fucking GLAAD basketball team. You’re unhinged. And completely goofy. And I’m supposed to vote for your candidate. Pass. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/104 "2016-10-12T04:45:03Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Yet another smear that I’m either a troll, sockpuppet, or something else nefarious. > > Unreal how you handle a dissenting opinion. I’m suggesting you have a paid or unpaid job to do and you’re doing it. I predict you’ll deflect this suggestion in your usual, wild hyperbolic fashion. Set pearls to clutch! Don’t worry that you’ll be out of the job too soon, Trump will continue showing his butt for another 28 days and then you’ll move on to some other board and undermine one topic for weeks on end there. Maybe it will be something exciting, like solar panels or vaccination! But mix it up a little, won’t you? The one-trick pony show you do here is obvious to the point of dull. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/105 "2016-10-12T05:00:39Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > FWIW, as a participant in that thread, I was not offended by **octopus** ’ joke, and I’m not just saying that because he’s an octopus. I think it’s fair to say he views child molestation as a more egregious crime than sexual assault of adult women, which is debatable, but nothing he said in that thread suggested he didn’t have empathy for the victims. I know you’re not implying that I think otherwise but I think sexual assault of any form is problematic. I even think that the prison rape jokes reflect poorly on our culture. Just because someone is a prisoner doesn’t mean they should be dehumanized. Systematic, unnecessary brutality or acceptance of unnecessary brutality is something that a supposedly advanced and enlightened civilization, like we purport to be, should reject. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/106 "2016-10-12T05:11:09Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > I’m suggesting you have a paid or unpaid job to do and you’re doing it. I predict you’ll deflect this suggestion in your usual, wild hyperbolic fashion. Set pearls to clutch! Um… yeah. I don’t get how I’d not be a part of your equation - paid or not paid to post here. You’ve included everyone. No? I signed up and started posting here because I had an issue with a poster and finally cracked and decided to post. Get over it. > [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Don’t worry that you’ll be out of the job too soon, Trump will continue showing his butt for another 28 days and then you’ll move on to some other board and undermine one topic for weeks on end there. I’m going to be out of an unpaying job soon? Fuck me! > [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Maybe it will be something exciting, like solar panels or vaccination! But mix it up a little, won’t you? Solyndra’s out of business now otherwise I’d do anything in my power to get in there - they paid out the wazoo. > [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > The one-trick pony show you do here is obvious to the point of dull. Being Rupublican? Half of America is Republican. Those one-trick ponies! ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/107 "2016-10-12T21:58:55Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Um… yeah. I don’t get how I’d not be a part of your equation - paid or not paid to post here. You’ve included everyone. No? > > I signed up and started posting here because I had an issue with a poster and finally cracked and decided to post. Get over it. > > I’m going to be out of an unpaying job soon? Fuck me! > > Solyndra’s out of business now otherwise I’d do anything in my power to get in there - they paid out the wazoo. > > Being Rupublican? Half of America is Republican. > > Those one-trick ponies! Do you get paid by the post or simply based on how many days you astro-turf online? So long as Trump’s unlicensed charity is happy to pay his campaign bills I’m happy to keep responding to help you put money in your pocket. That’s a beast I’m happy to bleed, the gullible people dumb enough to donate to the charity of one of the most unscrupulous businessmen in the modern era. Though w/ his track record of shirking bills until sued I hope you got an advance; hate to see you named in his 5th bankruptcy as a creditor. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/108 "2016-10-13T01:02:36Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Do you get paid by the post or simply based on how many days you astro-turf online? I get the feeling I’m going to be accused of the crap you’re accusing me of until I join the Borg and agree with everything you say. Then everything’s cool. Look at what you’re arguing for - no counter opinion to your group-think, rah rah rah, clan. Fucking pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/109 "2016-10-13T11:38:38Z")
Funny, I could’ve sworn you said you didn’t like it here. You’re still around? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/110 "2016-10-13T12:20:56Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > I get the feeling I’m going to be accused of the crap you’re accusing me of until I join the Borg and agree with everything you say. Then everything’s cool. > > Look at what you’re arguing for - no counter opinion to your group-think, rah rah rah, clan. > > Fucking pathetic. Pretty much, yes. The hive mind does not tolerate dissent, but it can be pretty entertaining watching it blow a gasket upon encountering it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/111 "2016-10-13T12:45:35Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Pretty much, yes. The hive mind does not tolerate dissent, but it can be pretty entertaining watching it blow a gasket upon encountering it. > > Regards, > Shodan I know. It’s not like we ever have thoughtful discussions on the Dope – it’s all a hive mind of liberals who never disagree on anything. Certainly no conservatives have been here as active posters since, say, summer of 2000, becoming enmeshed and well-liked in the community. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/112 "2016-10-13T15:24:06Z")
Pretty much, yes. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/113 "2016-10-13T15:27:33Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Funny, I could’ve sworn you said you didn’t like it here. Funny, I don’t think I ever said that. In fact I think I said the opposite - I’ve read and read here, specifically the political posts, because I don’t agree with them. It sheds light on what the other side is thinking and their reasoning. What I’ve read here reinforces what I believe - the outright dismissal of facts, the inability to recognize blatant hypocrisy, and the attempt to bully those that counter any belief unlike their (the majority) own, a myriad of other reasons, all combine together to shore up my beliefs. I (for the most part) enjoy it. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You’re still around? You have a problem with that? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/114 "2016-10-13T15:32:35Z")
No, with a little patience I’m sure it will work itself out. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/115 "2016-10-13T15:35:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I know. It’s not like we ever have thoughtful discussions on the Dope – it’s all a hive mind of liberals who never disagree on anything. Certainly no conservatives have been here as active posters since, say, summer of 2000, becoming enmeshed and well-liked in the community. 😉 Well-liked is pushing it. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/116 "2016-10-13T15:44:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > No, with a little patience I’m sure it will work itself out. How clever. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/117 "2016-10-13T20:42:05Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > and finally cracked That bit we already guessed. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/118 "2016-10-14T05:13:55Z")
I don’t even know what’s going on in this thread, I thought I did, but I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/119 "2016-10-14T12:34:54Z")
Congratulations! You’ve made the all-important first step on the brief path to not giving a shit. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/120 "2016-10-14T22:49:32Z")
“don’t give a shit?” Please. You idolize your posts more than anybody else here. Outside of one person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138.md?page=7)