# Shut up and read, octopus, and you might learn something

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2016, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138 "2016-10-10T08:51:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/121 "2016-10-15T00:55:06Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> “don’t give a shit?”
> 
> Please. You idolize your posts more than anybody else here. Outside of one person.

I’m so glad you posted in the Pit, because it gives me the opportunity to say that IMHO your comments contribute exactly nothing to the discussions on the SDMB. That includes all of them.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/122 "2016-10-15T00:56:58Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> You idolize your posts more than anybody else here. Outside of one person.

Whoa, didn’t expect you to slam **Starving Artist** like that!

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/123 "2016-10-15T01:09:36Z")

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Deleted a bunch of stuff because it turns out that **vinyl turnip** was onto something when he said that bit about starting to not give a shit.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/124 "2016-10-15T01:15:44Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’m so glad you posted in the Pit, because it gives me the opportunity to say that IMHO your comments contribute exactly nothing to the discussions on the SDMB. That includes all of them.

So you (thelmalou… reminds me of a cow instead of a girl) don’t like my posts. Fine.

What is it about reading ‘rah rah rah’ that you enjoy?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/125 "2016-10-15T01:19:52Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> I don’t even know what’s going on in this thread, I thought I did, but I don’t.

I think it’s about octopus telling a joke, somebody saying it wasn’t funny, and octopus being VERY VERY VERY VERY determined to prove it was, while most people would just shrug and try again elsewhere.

What Hewey’s on about, I’ve no idea.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/126 "2016-10-15T01:21:50Z")

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And again the newbie seems awfully familiar with the neighborhood.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/127 "2016-10-15T01:23:56Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> And again the newbie seems awfully familiar with the neighborhood.

Yet again.

Have a better argument?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/128 "2016-10-15T01:39:04Z")

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I have a conclusion. You’re a sock puppet.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/129 "2016-10-15T01:45:28Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> “don’t give a shit?”
> 
> Please. You idolize your posts more than anybody else here. Outside of one person.

It’s me, isn’t it?

Are there other **VT** admirers I don’t know about?

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]

I think it’s about octopus telling a joke, somebody saying it wasn’t funny, and octopus being VERY VERY VERY VERY determined to prove it was, while most people would just shrug and try again elsewhere.  
[/QUOTE]

I’d say he was very, very, very, very determined to prove it wasn’t offensive or insensitive in the context of that thread. Most of the participants in that thread seem to agree with him.

Listen, I’ve seen people threadshit all over rape threads. I don’t think he came close.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/130 "2016-10-15T02:11:31Z")

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eh, **VT** ’s kinda funny.

**HeweyLewey** ’s just loud and annoying.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/131 "2016-10-15T02:17:50Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I have a conclusion. You’re a sock puppet.

I have a conclusion - you’re a knob.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/132 "2016-10-15T03:06:32Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> I have a conclusion - you’re a knob.

No doubt that conclusion is based on your intimate familiarity with my 14 years of posting history here. (Because you’re a sock puppet.)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/133 "2016-10-15T03:13:33Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I’d say he was very, very, very, very determined to prove it wasn’t offensive or insensitive in the context of that thread. Most of the participants in that thread seem to agree with him.

Either way, it’s not going to get any funnier and/or more inoffensive with further discussion.  
And Hewey’s at the “I know you are, but what I am?” level now, or something.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/134 "2016-10-15T05:48:03Z")

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Have you guys been feeding Hewey McSockface at the table again?

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/135 "2016-10-15T12:56:15Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> No doubt that conclusion is based on your intimate familiarity with my 14 years of posting history here. (Because you’re a sock puppet.)

What is it that’s so hard to understand with a group of you? I’ve read here for a while, after finding an article linked here I found interesting. More interested still I started reading the boards. It’s been a while now, reading but not saying anything. I decided to post and then after that comment on what I’ve seen here - a bunch of people are complete assholes and blowhards, in an otherwise cool board, I participated in a couple of threads.

You don’t think that’s normal? Are you so insulated and protected against everything that the idea of someone joining this board that doesn’t necessarily agree with you is unheard of?

The arrogance is amazing.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/136 "2016-10-15T13:17:23Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> What is it that’s so hard to understand with a group of you? I’ve read here for a while, after finding an article linked here I found interesting. More interested still I started reading the boards. It’s been a while now, reading but not saying anything. I decided to post and then after that comment on what I’ve seen here - a bunch of people are complete assholes and blowhards, in an otherwise cool board, I participated in a couple of threads.
> 
> You don’t think that’s normal? Are you so insulated and protected against everything that the idea of someone joining this board that doesn’t necessarily agree with you is unheard of?
> 
> The arrogance is amazing.

What I don’t believe is someone who in his first few posts ever on the boards knows other posters so well and is completely comfortable with making broad, personal insults about them like someone who has interacted with them extensively. It’s not believable that a real, new poster does that. That’s not normal.

A new poster can be tentative and held back. Or a new poster can be wild and insulting on a broad, general level. But a new poster who has never interacted with people does not make insults that suggest long-term familiarity. That’s not normal.

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**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-and-read-octopus-and-you-might-learn-something/768138/137 "2016-10-15T14:12:25Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> What I don’t believe is someone who in his first few posts ever on the boards knows other posters so well and is completely comfortable with making broad, personal insults about them like someone who has interacted with them extensively. It’s not believable that a real, new poster does that. That’s not normal.

I’m abnormal? Fuck!

Girlfriends were right.

I don’t get (honestly) why people have a problem with knowing a tendency in a message board, and people within it who suck.

Read a year and you’ll know.

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> A new poster can be tentative and held back. Or a new poster can be wild and insulting on a broad, general level. But a new poster who has never interacted with people does not make insults that suggest long-term familiarity. That’s not normal.

I disagree with things I read here. I explain it and talk about it. The fucking point of a message board.

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