# Shut Up BigTard!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185 "2016-01-15T02:12:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/61 "2016-01-16T04:56:30Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Scrolling past those posts requires less typing, and as I told **Zeke** , I’m down on excess typing these days. I leave that to middle aged agoraphobic virgins now. Shut up, **droptard**. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/62 "2016-01-16T05:08:55Z")
Finally, one of you assholes has the guts to fucking make a Pit thread instead of whining on another message board. I appreciate you bringing it here so I can respond without giving away my identity. Too bad you’re repeating their stupid tactics. Pulling up posts from the long past, like **Fenris** used to do. (Yes, I’m being ironic.) Talk about raising zombies. It’s cute that you guys are so obsessed with me\*, but it’s not going to make me stop calling you out on your bullshit. Especially since you clearly cut and pasted this from the Giraffe Boards. (And not even the guy who commissioned it–again, **Fenris** –had the guts to post it.) I promised back in 2009 or so to reduce the moralizing. **And I have, considerably.** I realized there were decent people who were feeling bad, and I needed to be nicer to them. But that doesn’t mean it’s going to stop completely. And the people it’s least likely to stop for are the assholes who go around harassing me. I told you once that the whole “BigTard” thing is effectively calling someone named BigF BigFaggot. It’s not a way for me to take you seriously. And the “shut up” meme, where you quote me out of context or deliberately misinterpret what I say doesn’t do much either. One of the great things about this board is that _I don’t have to walk on eggshells_. I tried pulling my punches and being nice to the cretins. And what did that get? More people harassing me. When I started responding again, what happened? Those people either stopped harassing me or stopped posting here. And, **faithfool** , what you miss is that **I don’t care what they think of me**. I don’t post because I want these assholes to like me. This isn’t high school. I’m not trying to change their minds about me. The fact that horrible people dislike you is almost a badge of honor. They said something that I think is bad enough to deserve some sort of response, so I give a response–_ **the same day I first see it** _. I’ll take extreme age into account, but not a few days. No one else avoids posting because a thread is a few days old, and it’s unreasonable to expect me to do that, either. And that’s what I do. I knew the assholes made up this shit about me stewing on shit, but I didn’t realize the decent people like you actually believed them. I respond in the moment, like anyone else. The reason they think I stew on shit is because of their meme about me being obsessed with this board. It’s normal for a person not to see a respond for days after you post something, or to never see it at all. I am who I am. I am someone who responds when I see someone saying something shitty and no one else calling them on it or otherwise acting like it’s shitty. I have always been this way, and nowhere else do I get people shitting on me over it–unless you count Reddit and the posts that get downvoted to hell. I will defend other people, and I will defend myself. In ATMB, I will point out when I think the mods are right or wrong. If I like you, I may try to make it nicer. And I will mostly shut up as long as someone else has said what I wanted to say. But that’s all you get. If that causes you to hate me [DEAL WITH IT](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/deal-with-it). I told you once, and it remains true, that if you want me to consider your complaints, you can offer them without the ridicule and without the attempts to piss me off so that I’ll do something I’ll regret. You know I have some issues with anger, and exploiting them with this shit will not work. I will not be baited. I respond if I think I have a bigger to point to make, or otherwise I say nothing. This board may not be “all I have” anymore. But it still sucks to be banned from a board that you’ve spent 7 years at. A board that, for the most part, is a fun place to be. Just because some assholes try to make it shit for me will not make me run and hide. \*And, if you actually were obsessed with me, you’d know I apologized for some of the “lectures” you’ve brought up. But no, when you did your Google search, it was more important to make me look bad. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/63 "2016-01-16T05:09:55Z")
And BTW, that’s the only response you will get. I will not be dragged further into a long drawn out ordeal over this. You made your case, it was a stupid case, and I’ve responded. This is over, as far as I’m concerned. I tried being nice before, and that just got me more people harassing me. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/64 "2016-01-16T05:52:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And BTW, that’s the only response you will get. Technically, we got this one, too. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/65 "2016-01-16T06:01:38Z")
Who expected a lecture? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/66 "2016-01-16T06:04:14Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > I’m torn. On one hand the OP is a blatant and boring attempt to be a big man with the snarker crowd. > > On the other hand, I would like BigT to shut up. Agreed. As much as I would like BigT to shut up, and as much as I enjoy rolling my eyes over his endless posts offering generic “advice” based solely on stuff ne’s read on the internet, I do have to wonder why the OP felt the need to import this thread. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/67 "2016-01-16T06:06:11Z")
Okay, hon. But just going by the reply you’ve posted now, it certainly appears like you care what others think. And I’m not trying to suggest you do things to specifically curry favor. No, my advice is simply to not draw a target on your back. Because truly, it IS healthy to walk away from somethings that are beneath your attention. Despite someone insulting you and you not discovering until days or weeks (or whatever) later, the only person, in turn, whose blood pressures rises? You. Which goes double when you find it and respond, then undoubtedly skyrockets as you watch the resulting fallout in various places. So, I’m hoping you’ll help yourself avoid feeling the way you often express due to this kind of stuff, but am perfectly willing to keep my own sanity intact by now stepping aside. Best wishes. ---
**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/68 "2016-01-16T06:22:26Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **Zeke** , I guess you don’t remember when I worked at making the longest, most convoluted sentences I could. Typing while lying down with a netbook on my belly put the kibosh on that. 😉 Nope, I don’t. I do know that I normally read your posts and don’t think to myself, “Fucking half-wit.” > [@splatterpunk](#): > > Shut up, **droptard**. Fucking half-wit. > [@BigT](#): > > F … d Case in point. Shut the fuck up, quit while you’re behind and shut the fuck up. Did I mention shut the fuck up! Here’s my impression of 99% of the people who read your posts; “Wow, I have a really huge and fresh scab… I’m gonna pick it - I bet it’ll hurt! Ow…Oww…oowww… owhowwow! Yup that sure fucking hurt. Why did I fucking do that!?!” You are the scab that masochists pick. [Zeke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtbEZ-7Emu0) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/69 "2016-01-16T06:24:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You know I have some issues with anger, **BigT** mad! **BigT** smash! Puny humans! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/70 "2016-01-16T14:17:04Z")
> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#): > > Nope, I don’t. > > I do know that I normally read your posts and don’t think to myself, “Fucking half-wit.” Why, thank you! I think. 🙂 And I appreciate how you have forgotten the many times I have shown that I am indeed a fucking half-wit. As for **BigT** ’s lengthy moralizing and hectoring others claim, one advantage of ADD is that my eyes glaze over after a few words and I move on. And as far as having a positive view of him when he agrees with me, DUH. It shows how wise he is in those matters because I am always right, in a flexible, easily adjusted way. And **BigT** , don’t fuck with **faithfool**. She’s a better person than you and can beat you three falls out of three. And she’s right. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/71 "2016-01-16T14:24:11Z")
Before this thread, I never knew **John F. Mace** ’s middle initial. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/72 "2016-01-16T14:34:23Z")
Really? I always assumed it so that’s what I call him under my breath. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/73 "2016-01-16T15:00:49Z")
**Big T** and his ilk have most definitely dampened my enthusiasm for posting on this board lately. Every interaction I have had with him that I can remember involves him doing a drive by calling me a racist, misogynist or saying I am arguing disingenuously when I am not. Perhaps I am all of these things and I could be a better person, but when I challenge him there is no response - so really it is just all a waste of time to me. I was attracted to this board because of the ability to explore and analyze emotions thoughts and ideas that may be controversial but that are discussed on a more thorough and in depth level that challenges gut reactions personal bias. The more this board condones mere sanctimoniousness and and attacks that amount to not _exactly_ attacking the poster but instead say, “since you feel this you _must_ be that” sans any sort of cite, the more tortuous the journey of expanding one’s mind becomes and up to a point it no longer seems worth the effort. Perhaps that is how it should be though; this board is wonderful thing for many, but perhaps not everyone should try to contribute. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/74 "2016-01-16T15:51:19Z")
Wait, there are people who don’t like **John Mace**? Dafuq? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/75 "2016-01-16T16:29:06Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > **Big T** and his ilk have most definitely dampened my enthusiasm for posting on this board lately. **BigT** does preach and lecture. On occasion it gets on my nerves, but he’s also easy enough to ignore. Especially since he’ll post to a thread days after the discussion has ended. But is there really a huge contingent of **BigT’s**? Seems like this board has more of an infestation of derps than sanctimonious types. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/76 "2016-01-16T18:17:18Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Wait, there are people who don’t like **John Mace**? Dafuq? We look at things from different political directions, though Yurpeens might say we are politically identical from their standpoints. I consider him an internet buddy but he sometimes gets on my nerves and I assume vice versa. It’s the Circle of Life of human interactions. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/77 "2016-01-16T19:08:47Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Yeah I’m going to turn this pitting right around on you. Why ask why? I HATE when people ask “why did you post X”? on a message board. All you are doing is stifling discussion. And the more you stifle discussion, the less discussion there will be! Sorry. Missed your post. Yeah, I admit it’s kinda’ jerkish of me to just come in with a lazy “Why?” (Maybe not so much a thread shit as a fart.) I thought it better than “Meh” because I really don’t get why so much hate gets thrown at Big T. I realize his preachiness can be annoying, but for Madsircool to go to the length of creating a “lecture” with 20-odd links, some dredged up from years ago, just seems bizzare, and rather obsessive. I clicked on just three of his links, and didn’t think any of them warranted such an overboard pitting. More than that, I really hate that people call him “Big Tard”. It really gets under my skin for some reason. But mostly, yeah, I was being a smart arse. Genuinely sorry it pissed you off. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/78 "2016-01-16T19:45:34Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > We look at things from different political directions, though Yurpeens might say we are politically identical from their standpoints. I consider him an internet buddy but he sometimes gets on my nerves and I assume vice versa. It’s the Circle of Life of human interactions. Well sure. But the degree of vitriol surprised me. (Yes, I know. Naive.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/79 "2016-01-16T21:57:26Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > **BigT** does preach and lecture. On occasion it gets on my nerves, but he’s also easy enough to ignore. Especially since he’ll post to a thread days after the discussion has ended. > > But is there really a huge contingent of **BigT’s**? Seems like this board has more of an infestation of derps than sanctimonious types. I would not say there is a huge contingency of **Big T’s** , but I feel as if in the 3 years since I started lurking and the posting here there has been a steady increase in posting of that nature (shallow, sanctimonious, poorly thought out, poorly cited if cited at all) on sensitive issues. I don’t really want to belabor the point, I just wanted to add my opinion to the conversation. There are some who are concerned about the SDMB turning into an echo chamber, and I would have to include myself in that group. I don’t think it is because people with opposing views are particularly sensitive and are posting less because they are too thin skinned to handle criticism; I think, instead, it has as much to do with the boredom of listening to an increasing number of poorly thought out arguments of the kind that **Big T** posts. For what it’s worth, I think your posting in particular does much to counterbalance that - unfortunately there are just fewer and fewer posters like yourself AFAICT. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185/80 "2016-01-17T02:53:51Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Well sure. But the degree of vitriol surprised me. > > (Yes, I know. Naive.) What vitriol? You may have mistaken me for someone with strong opinions and deeply-held beliefs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-bigtard/743185.md?page=5)