# Shut up Scion, the XB is F- Ugly! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783 "2005-09-09T04:29:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/1 "2005-09-09T04:29:12Z")
I don’t care what people say, this thing is the biggest case of “Emperor’s New Clothes” I’ve ever seen. Have you seen these things? I’m talking about that real boxy-looking (Station Wagon? SUV? what would you classify this thing as?) by the company whose whole pitch is how “customizable” their cars are. It’s supposed to be the new Rob Zombie/Linkin Park/Hip-Hop ride for the future. Yeah right, it looks more like they retrofitted something from an eastern European country’s Communist era. [Here’s What I’m talking about](http://www.scion.com/showroom/xb/gallery/) . Check out the Photos, especially from the rear. It amazes me how many college kids are being duped into buying these shitfests by all the hype in the TV ads. Honestly, the other Scion cars aren’t bad, but I nearly crack up laughing every time I see one of these trendies actually driving in their Bold Yellow or Olive Green Soviet rejects. Am I alone in thinking it’s almost farcical that people actually want these monstrosities? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/2 "2005-09-09T04:38:38Z")
That thing is so ugly it hurts my feelings. ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/3 "2005-09-09T04:52:48Z")
Its a LEGO car! 🙂 [http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2005/March/05.html](http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2005/March/05.html) ---
**Author:** ![Harmonix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Harmonix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonix)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/4 "2005-09-09T04:55:45Z")
The car is so FUGLY that I actually kind of like it. Sorry. You can nuke my commie ass at will. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/5 "2005-09-09T04:56:11Z")
Like the Scion xb, but I’m a bit a bit of a square. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/6 "2005-09-09T04:56:31Z")
I like it. There are so many carbon-copy cookie-cutter cars out there this thing looks like a breath of fresh air. Is this really worth a pitting? ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/7 "2005-09-09T05:00:45Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > I like it. There are so many carbon-copy cookie-cutter cars out there this thing looks like a breath of fresh air. > > Is this really worth a pitting? But would you really want to breathe it? The xB is what I emagine a depression era Volkswagon engineer would do to save on manufacturing costs. Now the xA and tC aren’t too shabby. ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/8 "2005-09-09T05:01:50Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > ? The xB is what I **emagine** a depression era Volkswagon engineer would do to save on manufacturing costs. Perhaps it’s also what I’d imagine they’d do as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/9 "2005-09-09T10:40:48Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > I like it. There are so many carbon-copy cookie-cutter cars out there this thing looks like a breath of fresh air. Looks like a copy of the [Honda Element](http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Element&bhcp=1&BrowserDetected=True) to me - just add 2 doors in back and change the side window configuration, and presto, an “omg kewl customizable” SUV-thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/10 "2005-09-09T10:47:07Z")
How to destroy Scion’s marketing campaign to college students: 1: “Hey kids, nice **mini-van!** ” Lesson ends. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/11 "2005-09-09T10:49:36Z")
I agree. It’s the [ugliest car ever!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=326367) ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/12 "2005-09-09T11:03:02Z")
It’s a mid 80s Chevy Astro. Except smaller. ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/13 "2005-09-09T11:15:06Z")
F-ugly? Plain old ugly? Um… no, not really. From the Ugliest Car thread; > [@](#): > > All of the above are ugly, but the Scion, Element, and Hummer are just kind of a boxy, unfinished, we-can’t-be-bothered-to-take-the-time-to-design-this ugly. > > The Aztek, to me, takes the cake because it’s a carefully crafted ugliness. I have four categories of car, ugly, inoffensive, nice and beautiful. Beautiful being something from a design house like Bertone, something made by Ferrari and Lamborghini, in fact a Lamborghini Muira being a perfect example. Nice looking cars are small hatchbacks or family cars, neat design, look good on your driveway, not bad at all. Sort of like the new Focus, the original Golf etc Now, inoffensive cars are those that, as quoted, look like they were given a shell to get them on the market and keep the rain off. This Scion, many Japanese hatchbacks from the 80s and the like. You walk past these cars without them without noticing them at all. Ugly, properly ugly cars are those that were deliberately designed to look a certain way, usually with the promise that these are actually great looking cars, we’re just not educated enough to know it. Cars like the [Austin Allegro](http://www.bltin.com/pix/austin_allegro_06.jpg) or the [Nissan Primera](http://www.grafickytuning.cz/img/souteze/primera_zari04.jpg). In fact, the Primera is an example of a car that went from being merely [inoffensive](http://www.kauhajoenauto.fi/vaihto/KGM-201.JPG) , to quite ugly in one step 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/14 "2005-09-09T12:18:20Z")
Dude! It’s X-TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMM!!!11!!!1 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/15 "2005-09-09T13:14:23Z")
> [@H3Knuckles](#): > > It amazes me how many college kids are being duped into buying these shitfests by all the hype in the TV ads. Honestly, the other Scion cars aren’t bad, but I nearly crack up laughing every time I see one of these trendies actually driving in their Bold Yellow or Olive Green Soviet rejects. > > Am I alone in thinking it’s almost farcical that people actually want these monstrosities? What’s worse, I hear Scion dealers are kidnapping college students from competition’s car lots where they are shopping for much prettier cars and holding a gun to their head until they join the Scion xB cult. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/16 "2005-09-09T13:17:14Z")
It’s sort of like a bulldog puppy, ugly but cute. I kind of like it, especially after talking with someone who owns one and sitting in the car. It’s actually quite roomy and comfortable. The Scion owner I spoke to said that he liked the fact that it didn’t look like every other car on the road. It’s also more affordable than a lot of other cars and it gets really good gas mileage. I was actually considering getting an xA if I am able to afford a new car but after talking with the xB owner I might consider one of them. If someone wants to drive one, how does that cause you harm? If you just don’t like looking at ugly cars, there are far worse looking things out there. I’d rather not look at some of the banged up, poorly painted rustbuckets I see roaming the streets but as long as they don’t crash into me it does me no harm. I agree that this really doesn’t seem pit worthy. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/17 "2005-09-09T13:38:37Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > I like it. There are so many carbon-copy cookie-cutter cars out there this thing looks like a breath of fresh air. Yeah, if fresh air was designed by the Politburo and manufactured in Stalingrad. It’s The People’s SUV! > [@](#): > > Is this really worth a pitting? If **H3Knuckles** hadn’t done it, I was going to. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/18 "2005-09-09T13:49:56Z")
I think the demographic for that vehicle was Cling & Clang from H.R.Pufnstuf. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/19 "2005-09-09T14:04:37Z")
I bought an Element just last month. Most people I know (especially women) seem to like it and think that it’s cute. There are some very adamant individuals who hate it and think it’s ugly as sin. I love the way it looks, myself. I don’t really like the look of, say, a Corvette. Different strokes for different folks. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/20 "2005-09-09T14:27:04Z")
The xB looks like Voltron’s feet. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783.md?page=2)