# Shut up Scion, the XB is F- Ugly!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783 "2005-09-09T04:29:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/21 "2005-09-09T14:56:25Z")

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**Pushkin** and **Biggirl** ’s son (it’s **Zoltarb** innit?) are right. The Aztec is so ugly it makes the VW Thing look good by comparison.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/22 "2005-09-09T15:03:29Z")

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> [@H3Knuckles](#):
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> I don’t care what people say, this thing is the biggest case of “Emperor’s New Clothes” I’ve ever seen. Have you seen these things? I’m talking about that real boxy-looking (Station Wagon? SUV? what would you classify this thing as?) by the company whose whole pitch is how “customizable” their cars are. It’s supposed to be the new Rob Zombie/Linkin Park/Hip-Hop ride for the future.
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> Yeah right, it looks more like they retrofitted something from an eastern European country’s Communist era.

Out of curiosity, what do \*\*you \*\* personally consider to be some truly attractive cars under $ 15,000?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/23 "2005-09-09T15:50:58Z")

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This is pretty much what I was going to write. It is roomy, looks ok in my book and others as well, gets good gas mileage. But it is nice that the OP can be so judgemental of folks who buy them.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/24 "2005-09-09T16:19:55Z")

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If you hate that you’ll hate the [Nissan Cube](http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2002/021012tokyo-nissan/). Note the rear window glass that wraps around… on only one side.

Frankly, I think these vehicles are all good looking and pretty unique compared to other models out there right now, but to each his/her own.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/25 "2005-09-09T16:36:20Z")

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It is extremely ugly, but at least it is also extremely practical. Lots of internal space for a fairly small footprint. At least it isn’t an SUV sized vehicle.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/26 "2005-09-09T16:38:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The Scion owner I spoke to said that he liked the fact that it didn’t look like every other car on the road.

That’ll change quickly as more and more people buy them. Inexpensive? Good gas milage? Roomy? You can bet people will be stampeding to get them.

Personally, I can’t stand the look. Much like I can’t stand certain cars in Europe. However, both sorts of automobiles said to be practical and for many people, substance is more important than style.

I drive a teal green Toytoa Tercel. Some people considered it beautiful, but I think they were talking about the color. I don’t see very many cars like mine either, but I certainly wouldn’t get a car for that reason alone.  
There’s many other ways to be “unique”. Heh.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/27 "2005-09-09T17:37:45Z")

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A guy I work with has a purple one with flames on it. One of the other guys said when he first saw it that it looks like a toaster.

We threatened to cut out some big foam rubber panels, paint them a nice toasty goldish brown and glue them to the roof!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/28 "2005-09-09T17:40:42Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> If you hate that you’ll hate the [Nissan Cube](http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2002/021012tokyo-nissan/). Note the rear window glass that wraps around… on only one side.

Yikes! That window looks oddly unsettling, like Leela’s eye, from _Futuramic_.

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**Author:** ![Mint\_Julep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Mint\_Julep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mint_Julep)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/29 "2005-09-09T17:40:59Z")

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I think the toaster mobile is ugly too.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/30 "2005-09-09T17:41:43Z")

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Futura-_ma_ !

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/31 "2005-09-09T17:45:57Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> I bought an Element just last month. Most people I know (especially women) seem to like it and think that it’s cute. There are some very adamant individuals who hate it and think it’s ugly as sin. I love the way it looks, myself. I don’t really like the look of, say, a Corvette. Different strokes for different folks.

I think the Element is WAY cuter than that hideous Scion box. The Element has a slightly more rounded edges and somehow that makes it much better-looking.

There is another model of Scion, however, that is extremely cute. It’s a little hatchback thing - looks nothing like the Giant Washing Machine model.

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/32 "2005-09-09T17:47:43Z")

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The cute Scion is the xA. The pictures don’t do it justice - it’s much cuter in person.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/33 "2005-09-09T17:47:58Z")

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I kinda like 'em. There’d be room for all my saxophones in the back (even the bass, which is as tall as a 9-year-old boy and almost as unmanageable).

I’d have it painted à la [Mondrian](http://www.petersen.org/images/Exhibitimages/Mondrian%20Car_2.jpg). Sure it’s boxy. Why fight it?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/34 "2005-09-09T17:57:38Z")

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You haters just need to see one that’s properly tricked out. I saw one the other day with a spoiler, ground-effect lights and wicked tight rims.

The stereo was kickin’ out some beat rhymes with da mega bass, and Chad and Brett was _stylin’_ off to class at the community college.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/35 "2005-09-09T18:49:16Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> You haters just need to see one that’s properly tricked out. I saw one the other day with a spoiler, ground-effect lights and wicked tight rims.
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> The stereo was kickin’ out some beat rhymes with da mega bass, and Chad and Brett was _stylin’_ off to class at the community college.

I’ve seen one well tricked out, it is the saddest thing ever. I like tricked out cars, but this is like tricking out a 70’s volvo estate a complete waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Jpeg\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@Jpeg\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jpeg_Jones)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/36 "2005-09-09T19:25:37Z")

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Am I the only official Scion xB owner in this thread?

Just get right off it, mmkay? It gets damn good mileage, has lots of room, virtually no maintenance, and it’s totally reliable and cheap.

I’m not a fanboi!!!1!! either. I’m 31 years old, married, kid, mortgage, etc.

STFU.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/37 "2005-09-09T19:31:39Z")

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> [@Jpeg Jones](#):
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> It gets damn good mileage, has lots of room, virtually no maintenance, and it’s totally reliable and cheap.

And it’s a girl’s car. Ouch!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/38 "2005-09-09T19:52:35Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> The xB looks like Voltron’s feet.

Oh man, I needed that laugh, thanks.

/wiping away tears

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/39 "2005-09-09T20:16:39Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> You haters just need to see one that’s properly tricked out. I saw one the other day with a spoiler, ground-effect lights and wicked tight rims.
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> The stereo was kickin’ out some beat rhymes with da mega bass, and Chad and Brett was _stylin’_ off to class at the community college.

Great, another poor, defenseless car line falling victim to the “Riceboy Disease” :rolleyes:

let me guess, Chad and Brett’s mommy and daddy bought them that vehicle and let them abuse it with a load of useless cosmetic crap, no wait, apparently that was Toyota that allowed them to do it…

gaah, if there’s one thing worse than Ricing out a car, it’s “Factory Rice”, how much more HP/TQ does that ground-effects lighting/spoiler/rims/etc give you, anyway

wait, come back, you forgot to put on your “Type R” sticker, fart tip exhaust and 200 metric tons of stickers for products your vehicle _does not have_

but at least it “looks unique”, just like every other ricer out there…

\*note, in this context “Rice” does not refer to the vehicle’s country of origin, ethnicity of the driver, or the current National Security advisor, it refers to the _STUPID_ and _ANNOYING_ practice of putting a bunch of useless cosmetic affectations on the vehicle to make it _look fast_, but not doing anything to _actually_ make it fast…

you know, “all show, no go…”

give me a good, decent sleeper, any day

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**Author:** ![OrangeJumpsuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OrangeJumpsuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrangeJumpsuit)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/40 "2005-09-09T20:28:31Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> Dude! It’s X-TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMM!!!11!!!1

That car is TEH PWN!!!111!!11one11!!

Seriously, Scion, Honda Element, Aztec. Ugliest cars I’ve ever seen.

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