# Shut up Scion, the XB is F- Ugly!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783 "2005-09-09T04:29:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/41 "2005-09-09T20:49:31Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> And it’s a girl’s car. Ouch!

( **Doug** emits a high-pitched piercing scream and runs out of the room, wildly flailing his arms.)

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/42 "2005-09-09T20:53:51Z")

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> [@OrangeJumpsuit](#):
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> That car is TEH PWN!!!111!!11one11!!
> 
> Seriously, Scion, Honda Element, Aztec. Ugliest cars I’ve ever seen.

Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

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**Author:** ![OrangeJumpsuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OrangeJumpsuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrangeJumpsuit)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/43 "2005-09-09T20:57:06Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

Holy BALLS, Batman, what is that thing?! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/44 "2005-09-09T21:03:08Z")

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> [@OrangeJumpsuit](#):
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> Holy BALLS, Batman, what is that thing?! :eek:

I think it was designed so that it looks better after the front impact crash tests are carried out. [See what I mean](http://www.euroncap.com/images/mediadownloads/phase%209a/FIAT%20Multipla.JPG)

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/45 "2005-09-09T21:09:26Z")

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I’m in the so-ugly-it’s-cute camp. Of course, I wouldn’t be able to afford one unless it was several years old and gone through multiple owners.

That said, why do I like it? Well, it’s because it would be similar to having your own mini hearse, ala’ [Harold and Maude](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067185/). I gots to love that!

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**Author:** ![OrangeJumpsuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OrangeJumpsuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrangeJumpsuit)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/46 "2005-09-09T21:17:17Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> I think it was designed so that it looks better after the front impact crash tests are carried out. [See what I mean](http://www.euroncap.com/images/mediadownloads/phase%209a/FIAT%20Multipla.JPG)

HA HA! I actually laughed out loud when I saw this. It really does look better post-crash.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/47 "2005-09-09T21:18:18Z")

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When my brother and cousin were little boys they had this thing called Vacuform, and it let you melt plastic (probably the products guts were cousins to the easy-bake oven) and form cars! That were as hideous looking as the Scion. And the Element. And the Aztec. They consider these “Girls’ cars”? I find that surprising since I’ve yet to meet a gal who didn’t find all three butt ugly.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/48 "2005-09-09T21:43:13Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a NEW Champion!

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/49 "2005-09-09T21:45:16Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> When my brother and cousin were little boys they had this thing called Vacuform, and it let you melt plastic (probably the products guts were cousins to the easy-bake oven) and form cars! That were as hideous looking as the Scion. And the Element. And the Aztec. They consider these “Girls’ cars”? I find that surprising since I’ve yet to meet a gal who didn’t find all three butt ugly.

They deffinately seem to attract female drivers. I think it is like going out with your ugly best friend, just being near makes you look sexier.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/50 "2005-09-09T22:00:12Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

It looks like a fat girl in a tube top.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/51 "2005-09-09T22:12:58Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

My eyes!

Seriously, when the PT Cruiser first came out, I thought it was ugly as hell. Eventually, I came to like it. I think the same thing is happenening with the Scion line. I used to make fun of the commercials (“Ooh, hear the techno music? That means this car is cool! You want this car! Chicks will totally dig it, dawg!”). Continued exposure combined with pity for its unmitigated ugliness has me thinking that I wouldn’t mind owning one. Scary. ☹

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/52 "2005-09-10T00:01:38Z")

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> [@Jpeg Jones](#):
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> Just get right off it, mmkay? It gets damn good mileage, has lots of room, virtually no maintenance, and it’s totally reliable and cheap.

Nobody doubts that. It just looks lame.

Sorry.

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**Author:** ![OrangeJumpsuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OrangeJumpsuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrangeJumpsuit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/53 "2005-09-10T00:07:46Z")

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> [@Ichini Sanshigo](#):
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> My eyes!
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> Seriously, when the PT Cruiser first came out, I thought it was ugly as hell. Eventually, I came to like it. I think the same thing is happenening with the Scion line. I used to make fun of the commercials (“Ooh, hear the techno music? That means this car is cool! You want this car! Chicks will totally dig it, dawg!”). Continued exposure combined with pity for its unmitigated ugliness has me thinking that I wouldn’t mind owning one. Scary. ☹

The PT Cruiser, aka, the Baby Hearse.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/54 "2005-09-10T01:30:46Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> Someone else has never seen the [Fiat Multipla](http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/especiales/2002/03/ginebra2002/imagenes/novedades/fiat_multipla_g.jpg)

That looks like a car sandwich. You could put wheels on the roof and drive it upside down.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/55 "2005-09-10T01:44:34Z")

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I like the Scion xB, but only from the sides and back. It looks like a big boxy safe, and for some reason I like it.

The front, however, I don’t like much at all. It tries to look too tough and modern, which doesn’t quite jibe with the rest of it.

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**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/56 "2005-09-10T02:37:18Z")

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Worse cars: Ford Taurus, any year  
Almost anything built from around 1982-1992 (esp by Chevrolet)

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/57 "2005-09-10T17:23:47Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> wait, come back, you forgot to put on your “Type R” sticker, fart tip exhaust and 200 metric tons of stickers for products your vehicle _does not have_
> 
> but at least it “looks unique”, just like every other ricer out there…
> 
> \*note, in this context “Rice” does not refer to the vehicle’s country of origin, ethnicity of the driver, or the current National Security advisor, it refers to the _STUPID_ and _ANNOYING_ practice of putting a bunch of useless cosmetic affectations on the vehicle to make it _look fast_, but not doing anything to _actually_ make it fast…
> 
> you know, “all show, no go…”
> 
> give me a good, decent sleeper, any day

But dude that K&N sticker give me an additional 15 show-power. Combined with the type R sticker I have over 300 show-power.  
To bad I still only have 98 horepower

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/58 "2005-09-11T03:01:37Z")

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Nocturne, the 1986 Taurus saved Ford. It was, literally, the world’s best car, at that moment. The second generation has the face of a devil, but the original model was groundbreaking, in style and form.

And a SHO will eat a lot of cars alive.

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/59 "2005-09-11T05:03:57Z")

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I should just like to point out, as a Scion xA owner, that I officially disown my baby’s deformed sister.

The Scion xA: all the economy with a little less of the suck.

:d&r:

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-scion-the-xb-is-f-ugly/320783/60 "2005-09-12T16:57:00Z")

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> [@Priam](#):
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> I should just like to point out, as a Scion xA owner, that I officially disown my baby’s deformed sister.
> 
> The Scion xA: all the economy with a little less of the suck.
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> :d&r:

The new Scion tC looks quite good as well [http://www.powersys.com/auto\_show2004/Scion%20tC%20Pic%202-pt.jpg](http://www.powersys.com/auto_show2004/Scion%20tC%20Pic%202-pt.jpg) they know how to design for looks as well as practicality.

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