# Shut up USA

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2002, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601 "2002-06-17T23:15:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/101 "2002-06-19T07:49:25Z")

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> Please don’t think lobley represents Britain.

Nah. The British gave us Monty Python, which is full of wit and good humor. Lobley has neither of these qualities. As such, I would assume that he only represents stupidity.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/102 "2002-06-19T10:57:58Z")

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> I’d say that when a UK football fan with the handle “Red Devil” says something, all others should bow before him and acknowledge his correctness.

Typical prawn sandwich muncher behaviour 😉

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/103 "2002-06-19T11:05:52Z")

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…and from Bedfordshire. Isn’t that near Luton Airport ?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/104 "2002-06-19T11:16:25Z")

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RexDart,

There are no commercials on BBC1 and BBC2 - they are funded by a compulsory license fee. 😃

Also when your Superbowl is on one of our commercial channels, we have to employ special guest commentators to fill the extra advertising slots coming from the US!

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/105 "2002-06-19T11:23:45Z")

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It also means that the hour-length episodes of _24_ are 45 minutes long 😃

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/106 "2002-06-19T12:49:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*Isn’t that near Luton Airport ? \*\*

Dinsdale?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/107 "2002-06-19T13:06:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> \*\*It also means that the hour-length episodes of _24_ are 45 minutes long 😃 \*\*

Yup, even more noticeable when you look at the DVD set of the series. The runtime is around 20 hours!

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/108 "2002-06-19T15:28:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*[So war is good natured?](http://ldbelveal.net/futbol_war.htm) \*\*

I was talking about soccer. Read the OP please if you are going to reply to it.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/109 "2002-06-19T15:37:57Z")

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You would never hear the end if England won because **England deserve to win!**

The sheer number of **Hurt** replies to this post indicate that you **do** give a shit about what a whiney Englishman says.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/110 "2002-06-19T15:42:22Z")

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The fact that my reply was directed at the inappropriately arrogant behaviour of a few people who I called Americans because they happened to be Americans regarding their progress through the world cup just shows how fucked up most of those replies were! Youd think I said “I hate everything about America”

For god’s sake people! get over yourselves.

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**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/111 "2002-06-19T15:44:16Z")

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**lobley** , I’ll admit I give a shit what you say. It takes the form of “What’s that git going on about now?” whenever I see your name on a thread, but a shit is a shit, no?

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/112 "2002-06-19T15:54:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lobley \*  
> \*\*You would never hear the end if England won because **England deserve to win!**
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> The sheer number of **Hurt** replies to this post indicate that you **do** give a shit about what a whiney Englishman says. \*\*

Why do we deserve to win exactly?

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/113 "2002-06-19T16:03:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crusoe \*  
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> Why do we deserve to win exactly? \*\*

because we’ve been trying forever.

And we are England. Isn’t that enough?

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/114 "2002-06-19T16:06:43Z")

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> ## Originally posted by Crusoe Why do we deserve to win exactly?

And because we never fucking win anything ever, we have to win something!

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/115 "2002-06-19T16:09:39Z")

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The thing that annoyed me about America annoys me about Manchester United -

They win everything all the time, they have everything, yet they still get excited when they are going to win yet another thing.

IMO only people/fans who do not get much really deserve to get excited when they might win something.

That is why the whole thing annoys me, not because I hate America (and I don’t I like more things about it than dislike)

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/116 "2002-06-19T16:13:25Z")

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Remind me; what did Man U win this past season ?

**lobley** - You do understand you’re becoming an embarrassment ?

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/117 "2002-06-19T16:29:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*Remind me; what did Man U win this past season ?
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> **lobley** - You do understand you’re becoming an embarrassment ? \*\*

Despite your question you know **exactly** what I mean.  
ANd I know I am embarrasing myself, It’s just that I am having great trouble (and am failing) expressing what is in fact a valid opinion.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/118 "2002-06-19T16:37:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lobley \*  
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> I was talking about soccer. Read the OP please if you are going to reply to it. \*\*

So was the link. Read the link please if you are going to reply to it.  
:wally

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/119 "2002-06-19T16:44:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lobley \*  
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> I was talking about soccer. Read the OP please if you are going to reply to it. \*\*

Did you read the link? sounds football-related to me.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shut-up-usa/114601/120 "2002-06-19T17:16:08Z")

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Ah, I see… **lobley** is unhappy because Americans like to win, and do so with some frequency. Oh, what an _insult_ to poor **lobley**. I think we should be sending sympathy cards now, yes…?

_“Terribly Sorry For Having A Good Time, Being Happy, And All That.  
Hope It Wasn’t Too Much An Inconvenience.”_

:wally

**mayberrydan** , I think you’ve vastly misjudged the character of America IRT other people winning at sports we happen to play well… “Bitter” is _way_ too strong a choice. Most Americans would respond with a ‘So What?’ to your scenario. ‘Mildly Disappointed’ might be closer to what you’re looking for.  
Excepting the occasional looney, of course.

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