# Sick and tired **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635 "2009-03-07T06:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/61 "2009-03-07T21:46:40Z")
Well, I still like Seth Rogan and Kevin Smith. I think they’re pretty wonderful. I also still like Jason Segal, Jonah Hill, Paul Rudd, Judd Apatow, Russell Brand and the rest of the [New Comedy](http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/04/comedians-portfolio200904) gang. We’re entering another golden age of comedy (if a bit more raunchy) because of these people. I’m kinda getting tired of Michael Cera, but that’s because he’s the exact same character in every single movie. I still like him, but I wish he’d play a serial killer or something. What the heck are gauged ears? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/62 "2009-03-07T21:58:57Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Well, I still like Seth Rogan and Kevin Smith. I think they’re pretty wonderful. I also still like Jason Segal, Jonah Hill, Paul Rudd, Judd Apatow, Russell Brand and the rest of the [New Comedy](http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/04/comedians-portfolio200904) gang. We’re entering another golden age of comedy (if a bit more raunchy) because of these people. I’m kinda getting tired of Michael Cera, but that’s because he’s the exact same character in every single movie. I still like him, but I wish he’d play a serial killer or something. > > What the heck are gauged ears? A piercing that’s been stretched to a larger gauge. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/63 "2009-03-07T22:28:55Z")
Jesus christ, is it jump on lissener month? Yes, there is an “Asian girlfriend” fad. I’m not East Asian, but I’ve heard plenty of comments about how us Asian girls are more obedient, hotter, or that it’s somehow cool to have an Asian girlfriend just because she’s Asian. Goddamnit I’m only Asian by accident of birth. I’m American! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/64 "2009-03-07T23:47:49Z")
Well, certainly, I’ve known plenty of guys who had a thing for Asian girls, in terms of physical attraction. But I wouldn’t consider that troubling, anymore than having a thing for redheads or tall women. As for being more obedient or whatever, no, I’ve never heard it (at least, not as regards the American-raised Asians that make up the vast majority of Asian girlfriends in my social circles)… (And, yeah, everywhere I use “Asian”, I mean “East Asian”, as is the typical American way, standard geographical nomenclature be damned.) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/65 "2009-03-07T23:58:09Z")
Ah. Well, in what I was referring to, they do **not** mean American-raised. (I’m really projecting here, but I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if at least one person in Chris Brown’s crew has told him, “Bro, you shoulda got an Asian chick. You wouldn’t have had this trouble.”) ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/66 "2009-03-08T00:43:51Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > If we sat down and shared a pitcher, I bet we could come up a lot of things that you’re familiar with that I have absolutely no inkling of. I’m sure. I don’t know why you’re saying it, though, because I’m not in the least bit bothered by you knowing something I don’t, just asking what you’re talking about. > [@Anaamika](#): > > Goddamnit I’m only Asian by accident of birth. Well… is anyone Asian by any cause other than accident of birth? Both of you have apparently had your lives affected, if only by hearing about it, by this “Asian girlfriend” fad/trend/cliche/deal/thingamajig. If you could only tell a brief anecdote of such a time, I think it would eliminate a lot of the confusion that I - and it seems, others - am feeling about it. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/67 "2009-03-08T00:44:38Z")
Sorry if these have already been answered. [LIST] **[li]Kevin Smith** – Who’s Kevin Smith?[/li]**[li]Seth Rogan** – Who’s Seth Rogan?[/li]**[li]TV shows made in Los Angeles** Aren’t most of them made there? (or do you mean set in Los Angeles?)[/li]**[\*]PBR** – What or who is PBR? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/68 "2009-03-08T00:45:08Z")
I’m getting tired of the fad of [Asian schoolgirls having the hots for fat, sweaty middle-aged men](http://www.theonion.com/content/news/asian_teen_has_sweaty_middle_aged). ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/69 "2009-03-08T00:51:00Z")
[quote=“CanvasShoes, post:67, topic:488635”] **[li]Kevin Smith** – Who’s Kevin Smith? [/li][/QUOTE] He’s a director. Clerks, Clerks II, Mallrats, Jersey Girl, Chasing Amy, Zack and Miri Make A Porno, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are his. [quote=“CanvasShoes, post:67, topic:488635”] **[li]Seth Rogan** – Who’s Seth Rogan?[/li][/QUOTE] He’s a comic actor who’s been in Knocked Up, Superbad, Pineapple Express and Zack and Miri Make A Porno. [quote=“CanvasShoes, post:67, topic:488635”] **[li]PBR** – What or who is PBR?[/li][/QUOTE] I have no idea. I’m curious myself. Peanut Butter and Raisin sandwiches? Peanut Butter and Rocksalt? Peanut Butter and Raspberries? ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/70 "2009-03-08T00:54:27Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I have no idea. I’m curious myself. Peanut Butter and Raisin sandwiches? Peanut Butter and Rocksalt? Peanut Butter and Raspberries? Presumably Pabst Blue Ribbon. Cheap beer from back in the day; bike messengers in Portland started drinking it because it was cheap; hipster wannabees started drinking it because they thought it would make them look cool. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/71 "2009-03-08T00:58:40Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > He’s a director. Clerks, Clerks II, Mallrats, Jersey Girl, Chasing Amy, Zack and Miri Make A Porno, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are his. > > He’s a comic actor who’s been in Knocked Up, Superbad, Pineapple Express and Zack and Miri Make A Porno. Aha. I’ve only seen one of those movies and have no desire to see any of the rest of them. No wait, two. I did see Jersey Girl. I am a fan of Liv Tyler. > [@](#): > > PBR, I have no idea. I’m curious myself. Peanut Butter and Raisin sandwiches? Peanut Butter and Rocksalt? Peanut Butter and Raspberries? I think I saw him answer this earlier on in the thread, I believe someone said that it’s Pabst Blue Ribbon but I have no idea what he means by being sick and tired of it. Maybe he drinks too much of it, or he sees other people drink too much of it? I don’t know about other parts of the country, but it’s not much of an “Alaskan beer”. I don’t like beer, but based upon what I hear from my friends, coworkers and such, either making one’s own beer, or getting beer from different fancified breweries is the only way to drink beer. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/72 "2009-03-08T01:21:32Z")
[ul] [li][the Papyrus font](http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/muledollar/Font_Style_4_PAPYRUS.JPG)[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/73 "2009-03-08T01:32:09Z")
A good chunk of his list was addressed in the first reply by **Derleth**. While by no means aimed solely at them, a large number of his peeves have a high correlation with hipsterdom. As to the Asian thing, you people have seriously never heard of [asian fetishism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_fetish), or yellow fever as it’s more colloquially known? I’m surprised to see it listed because it doesn’t seem as prevalent as it used to and I never heard it described as a social status thing, but white American men being highly interested in Asian women is hardly a recent phenomenon, at least in the US. For those asking for a cite, here: > [@What causes a fetish for Asian women?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-causes-a-fetish-for-asian-women/310872/1): > > Like many, many American men, I have a huge thing for Asian girls. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipina, whatever. So many of them seem to be hotter, to me, than the percentage of hot non-Asian girls. Where, oh where, does this fetish come from? What past sunconscious experience, or genetic predisposition, makes a guy really attracted to Asian women? I just find the facial appearance of Asian females very, very attractive. > > I know I am not alone here. It seems like Asian girls are the most specifically lusted-for demographic, on the basis of ethnicity, in this country. For example, there is so much Asian porn marketed in the US and clearly it is being eaten up by American male audiences, so there must be a large group of men in this country who like the way Asian girls look. Why, though, is there this attraction? It can’t be just because they’re “exotic” and “different.” Women from the Middle East, or from South America, or from Africa also look different and “exotic,” but I don’t find myself specifically attracted to them. There is something about the unique facial structure of Asian girls that I like - the specific distances between the nose and mouth, the shape of the eyes, the overall look of the face, that I find intensely appealing. Why, though? Also, Kevin Smith and Seth Rogen are funny, and I like gauged piercings. ---
**Author:** ![mariposalabrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@mariposalabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mariposalabrown)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/74 "2009-03-08T02:00:10Z")
I hang out in a hipster social circle, and the asian girlfriend thing is definitely a fashion statement for some of these guys. I am tired of the all American Apparel look, where you can’t tell if they are trying too hard or not trying hard enough. And PBR sucks, but it’s cheap. In Houston, though, instead of PBR it’s Lone Star, which is a little more tolerable. I don’t drink either of them. Agreed on the papyrus font. That thing is awful and used everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/75 "2009-03-08T02:25:46Z")
> [@mariposalabrown](#): > > I hang out in a hipster social circle, and the asian girlfriend thing is definitely a fashion statement for some of these guys. Where are you located? ---
**Author:** ![mariposalabrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@mariposalabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mariposalabrown)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/76 "2009-03-08T02:29:15Z")
Houston, TX. It’s not near as bad as the hipster epidemic in Austin, but they try very hard here! ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/77 "2009-03-08T02:31:27Z")
> [@mariposalabrown](#): > > Houston, TX. It’s not near as bad as the hipster epidemic in Austin, but they try very hard here! Just checking. I didn’t think it was exclusively a Seattle thing. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/78 "2009-03-08T02:33:02Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Pabst Blue Ribbon. Pabst Blue Ribbon? Fuck you! Heineken! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/79 "2009-03-08T02:45:30Z")
Enough already with the wide-eyed blinking, “What’s the Asian girlfriend cliche?” bullshit. Geez. It is a reality that there is a small subculture of young men that think it is cool and in and hip to have an Asian girlfriend, and if they are looking to get one to get in on the ‘in thing’ without considering her as a person, then it is racist. God, I hate it when people _pretend_ to be stupid. Stupid is not a good thing to be; we shouldn’t be pretending to be it. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/80 "2009-03-08T02:50:01Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Enough already with the wide-eyed blinking, “What’s the Asian girlfriend cliche?” bullshit. Geez. It is a reality that there is a small subculture of young men that think it is cool and in and hip to have an Asian girlfriend, and if they are looking to get one to get in on the ‘in thing’ without considering her as a person, then it is racist. God, I hate it when people _pretend_ to be stupid. Stupid is not a good thing to be; we shouldn’t be pretending to be it. See, I was beginning to think there were actually pockets of cultural naivete out there big enough to house a whole Doper (I know, they’re called caves), but Nzinga you give me courage to call bullshit along with you, instead of continuing to try to \*explain \*it. (Oh and, I’m pretending \*not \*to be stupid. Is that close enough?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635.md?page=5)