# Sick and tired **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635 "2009-03-07T06:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/121 "2009-03-08T23:17:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Whooshed again. Queen La-who? > > OK, I know who Queen Latifah is, but I still don’t know what “OK” means, even if I imagine her saying it.. Kind of a metajoke, I guess, being something I’m tired of. In “ebonics,” saying “OK?” emphatically, as a question, means something like, “Can I get a amen?” (Obviously you’ve never seen a Tyler Perry movie. I wish I was you.) It’s the most emphatic way I know of to agree with someone. Also it’s slightly racist, so it makes me _edgy_. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/122 "2009-03-08T23:18:51Z")
OK? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/123 "2009-03-08T23:20:49Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Kind of a metajoke, I guess, being something I’m tired of. In “ebonics,” saying “OK?” emphatically, as a question, means something like, “Can I get a amen?” (Obviously you’ve never seen a Tyler Perry movie. I wish I was you.) > > It’s the most emphatic way I know of to agree with someone. Also it’s slightly racist, so it makes me _edgy_. If you had an asian girlfriend you might be able to pull that off. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/124 "2009-03-08T23:27:15Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > If you had an asian girlfriend you might be able to pull that off. I’d just tell her to do it, and she’d obey. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/125 "2009-03-08T23:45:05Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > It’s a film and literature cliche. Nice white boy has an asian girlfriend. She is like by his family. This demonstrates that he’s a multicultural sort of guy without hangups. The fact the asian girlfriend likes him gives him street cred and worthiness from a multicultural standpoint. > > Later in the movie this racial street cred will become important. He will have the gravitas to feel bad and guilty when his bad white friends do something ugly with a racial motivation. He will talk to his girlfriend about and the guidance she gives him will help him find the strength to turn against his friends and do the right thing. > > If it’s a comedy, than the racial cred enables him to pull off a joke or something that might be seen as racially insensitive except that his street cred makes it happy go lucky. > > Lucy Liu started the whole thing by being incredibly hot in that TV show with anorexic lawyer chick. > > Did you see her in Lucky Number Slevin? > > Oh man. If I wasn’t married with two kids I would be so in to that. > > Well, actually if I wasn’t married with two kids, balding, unattractive, middle-aged and suffering from diminished sex drive and totally beneath Lucy Liu’s notice I would be so into that. So guys want an asian girlfriend to show that they aren’t racist, sorta “hey, I can’t be racist, I have an asian girlfriend”. Correct? So I guess they are actually racist because they are picking(not picking) a girl based on her race not her personality. Correct? I think I might get it now. Me, I like funny hot chicks. But we dont have many asians here, which really kills our social status I guess. _Hey look, a signature, and it’s free from the sig box Lets watch it, see what it does…_ ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/126 "2009-03-09T01:26:03Z")
I assumed the Asian girlfriend thing referred to this trend: [Bruce Wasserstein marks “younger Asian girlfriend” of rich guy checklist.](http://gawker.com/5023344/bruce-wasserstein-marks-younger-asian-girlfriend-off-rich-guy-checklist) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/127 "2009-03-09T02:10:25Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > I assumed the Asian girlfriend thing referred to this trend: [Bruce Wasserstein marks “younger Asian girlfriend” of rich guy checklist.](http://gawker.com/5023344/bruce-wasserstein-marks-younger-asian-girlfriend-off-rich-guy-checklist) See? I tole you. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/128 "2009-03-09T02:15:26Z")
My college hired me on as a writing tutor, and one of my longterm clients was an exchange student from Japan who was writing a long feminist paper on the value of whiteness in Japan. She spoke at length about how she’d been raised by her Japanese mom and Japanese grandma to think that she, as an Asian woman, was unattractive when compared to white women. It was an interesting paper, and professional ethics and stone-cold cowardice kept me from telling her she was beautiful. I wonder what she’d make of this trend. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/129 "2009-03-09T02:21:24Z")
[ul] [li]Alton Brown[/li][li]_The Princess Bride_[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/130 "2009-03-09T02:28:20Z")
Ha! I had a pretty asian girlfriend and black-framed glasses 25 years ago! And I drank cheap beer! I still think asian woman are hot, so… man, I can’t say what I want to say here anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/131 "2009-03-09T02:40:05Z")
PBR: Professional Bull Riding? Pabst Blue Ribbon? Pert Boobie Recitals? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/132 "2009-03-09T02:55:43Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I’d just tell her to do it, and she’d obey. _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/133 "2009-03-09T03:01:46Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > [ul] > [li]_The Princess Bride_[/li][/ul] Book or movie? (serious question, not snarky.) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/134 "2009-03-09T03:26:36Z")
> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#): > > Book or movie? > > (serious question, not snarky.) Movie. Mostly tired of cutesy references to it. (Cf.: every second post in these boards.) ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/135 "2009-03-09T05:01:48Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > **Nzinga** , your bluntness is usually appreciated but you’re off the mark here. **lissener** ’s “Asian girlfriend cliche” rant is being mocked because the subset of guys who think it’s cooler to have an Asian girlfriend is so small as to be microscopic. Plus, the guys that think that way are typically the fattest, smelliest, ugliest, lamest anime-masturbating nerds in the world (e.g. the post belonging to **Argent Towers** referenced in this thread). Yeah, I hear you, but it is silly when people pretend to not even know where he is coming from. I mean, it is one thing to say, “Actually, I think it is a misconception that it is a fad; most guys with Asian girlfriends just happen to like a great girl that he has things in common with, and she just happens to be Asian.” It is another thing for them to pretend that they have never heard of the idea that white guys date Asian girlfriends because they think it is cool to have one. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/136 "2009-03-09T05:31:41Z")
God DAMN it, people. Read the fucking thread. PBR = PABST BLUE RIBBON By the way, what the hell is it with bearded young men swilling PBR and wearing trucker hats at certain concerts? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/137 "2009-03-09T06:34:36Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > …It is another thing for them to pretend that they have never heard of the idea that white guys date Asian girlfriends because they think it is cool to have one. Who the fuck is pretending? Why would anyone pretend to unaware of something so trite and meaningless in the first place? Did it ever occur to you that many places have no significant Asian populations? Thank God we can look to people such as yourself to keep us informed on everything douchebag. Ignorance fought, maybe. Sorta. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/138 "2009-03-09T06:35:41Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > But, in this case, the phenomenon that you’re unaware of, and that’s been remarked on by far more intelligent people than me, is that it’s become something of a status symbol, obviously in some locales more than others, to have an Asian girlfriend. I don’t make any claim to know how it started, or became such a cliche, or whatever; I’ve only remarked on it: noticed it. And have come across various other mentionings of it in the culture. Cf, the Dandy Warhol’s link above. Skim through the 198,000 hits Google coughs up for the phrase “asian girlfriend” to get an idea of how established a cultural meme it is. \ \ There exist people more intelligent than you? ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/139 "2009-03-09T07:47:41Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > God DAMN it, people. Read the fucking thread. > > PBR = PABST BLUE RIBBON Interesting. And people wear these blue ribbons, yes? I can see why that would be aggravating. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635/140 "2009-03-09T07:57:54Z")
Huh, I’ve never heard of the Asian girlfriend thing being a status symbol. I’ve heard of it being like “Oh poor pitiful him, he bought himself a bride from Asia because he \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ (can’t get an American girl/needs a woman who is docile/insert other ridiculous notion here).” Learn something new every day! I’ll add: [ul] [li]the cougar thing mentioned earlier[/li][li]“Oh noes middle aged women are invisible!”[/li][li]haw haw isn’t it fun to hate Tom Cruise?[/li][/ul] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sick-and-tired/488635.md?page=8)