# Sickest (non-porn) movie ever? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297 "2009-10-19T05:51:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/1 "2009-10-19T05:51:46Z")
I added “non-porn” because I don’t want to turn this into as thread full of "This one hot chick goes down on these two guys, and then gets a cream pie, and then . . . " posts. 🙂 Rather, looking for movies that were at least some sort of attempt to be released in a movie theater that did NOT encourage Pee Wee Herman jacking off in the third row. My nominees are: “Cannibal Holocaust”- Among the outrages: actual killing of a live turtle and coati; 2 rape scenes; one vaginal mutilation; the killing of a newborn baby and its mother; cannibalism, of course; and that’s just the worst stuff! “Bloodsucking Freaks”- Woman has her teeth pulled out, one by one without painkiller, and then the villain cuts off the top of her skull and drinks blood out of her brain; another has her arm cut off; and in yet another scene, a schoolgirl has the release rope to a guillotine put in her mouth and is spanked until she yells out, beheading herself “Caligula”- OK, borderline porn, but I don’t believe it was originally shot to be a porn film. The worst scene in this one is a Roman soldier has his dick tied off, they fill him up with wine, and then cut his bladder. He is then castrated, and his private parts are thrown to dogs. To cap it off, two women pee on his dead or dying corpse. Not the way I’d want to go! Those are the three that come to mind. Some others include: “Pink Flamingos” (we ALL know what scene) “Vulgar” I’ve also heard “Salo: 60 Days of Sodom” is pretty twisted as well, but have not been able to get a copy. What other sick movies are there? ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/2 "2009-10-19T05:58:34Z")
Pink Flamingos is Not sick. Its art. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/3 "2009-10-19T06:03:20Z")
[Last House On Dead End Street](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_House_on_Dead_End_Street) is one of the few movies to give Bloodsucking Freaks a run for its money. Like BSF, the version that is available is, as extreme as it is, a greatly cut down version of what was originally intended. Both movies also have in common that they are ‘about’ the creation of ‘extreme works’ that people confuse for ‘fake’. They’re also both brilliant works of art in their own right. Salo is a strange movie, true to its source in De Sade’s ‘120 Days of Sodom’, while also being a denunciation of fascism, and seemingly wildly homophobic (even though Pasolini was himself gay). It was on Youtube a while ago (and may still be up), but without subtitles. I’d argue that Pretty Woman is sicker than any of these films, though. ETA: **BigBertha** , PF, like most John Waters, is both Sick _and_ art 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/4 "2009-10-19T06:50:36Z")
_Kids_ is the first movie that came it my mind when I saw the title. I wanted to take a shower after seeing that. Or vomit. Or both. ---
**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/5 "2009-10-19T07:11:11Z")
Haven’t watched it myself, but I hear _I Spit On Your Grave_ is pretty soul-destroying. It’s about a woman who’s gang-raped by five men and gets bloody revenge on each of them. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/6 "2009-10-19T08:20:39Z")
“Funny Games”, at least the original European one, haven’t seen the Naomi Watts remake and I never intend to. And it doesn’t even need to show a particular amount of on-camera violence to sicken you. ---
**Author:** ![VanillaGorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@VanillaGorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanillaGorilla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/7 "2009-10-19T08:25:35Z")
> [@St.Anger](#): > > “Pink Flamingos” (we ALL know what scene) Well… I don’t 🙂 Care to enlighten me? ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/8 "2009-10-19T08:35:53Z")
I’d suggest _Guinea Pig: Flower of Flesh and Blood,_ a somewhat infamous fake snuff film. Basically, serial killer in Samurai armor dissects a young lady on-camera over a couple of hours. Actually has a pretty catchy a cappela number towards the end. Realistic enough that Charlie Sheen tipped off the FBI after seeing this, thinking it was real ([cite](http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.asp)). Available on Netflix, last time I checked. Apparently was once aired on San Francisco public access television in 1996, somehow. I’d also suggest _Nekromantik 2_, which is just about what you’d expect, and just as awful. On the other hand, it’s also boring. So boring it’s actually _relaxing_—I’m not kidding, the damn thing actually put me to sleep when I tried to watch it. The fact that it has a violin score that makes Phillip Glass sound like Hendrix probably had something to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/9 "2009-10-19T08:40:37Z")
[quote=“St.Anger, post:1, topic:514297”] I’ve also heard “Salo: 60 Days of Sodom” is pretty twisted as well, but have not been able to get a copy. QUOTE] 😃 It sounds as though I have a different threshold, but I found American History X hard to stomach. There’s that french movie with the seemingly endless rape scene - Bais Moi. Tough stuff MiM ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/10 "2009-10-19T10:20:09Z")
> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#): > > There’s that french movie with the seemingly endless rape scene - Bais Moi. Tough stuff > > MiM In a possibly similar vein (heard of but not seen), _Irreversible_. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/11 "2009-10-19T10:48:37Z")
Bad Taste is probably in there somewhere, it featured an aliens eating people’s brains and exploding sheep. ---
**Author:** ![gladtobeblazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@gladtobeblazed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gladtobeblazed)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/12 "2009-10-19T11:27:17Z")
_August Underground’s Mordum_ was the sickest movie I’ve ever seen, but I think it was direct to video, not a theatrical release. It was so disturbing it almost made me vomit. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/13 "2009-10-19T11:57:27Z")
> [@VanillaGorilla](#): > > Well… I don’t 🙂 Care to enlighten me? Divine eats dog shit. Like real dog shit not a prop. Though the entire move was pretty gross. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/14 "2009-10-19T15:15:06Z")
Peter Jackson’s **Dead Alive** aka **Braindead** claims to have the largest blood flow of any movie, and is extremely gross. Jackson has a reference to it in his _King Kong_. **The Devils/The Devils of Loudoun** was probably the sickest movie I saw that wasn’t actively trying to be a gross-out film. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/15 "2009-10-19T15:23:17Z")
**Ilsa, Shewolf of the SS**. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/16 "2009-10-19T15:33:04Z")
Pretty much impossible to top _[Sick: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120126/)_. ---
**Author:** ![lemac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@lemac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lemac)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/17 "2009-10-19T15:41:22Z")
The Human Centipede (not out yet, though there’s a trailer on youtube) > [@](#): > > Internationally respected Siamese twin surgeon Dr. Josef Heiter has a demented vision for mankind’s future existence. He wants to remove human beings’ kneecaps so they have to exist on all fours and then surgically graft them mouth-to-anus to form a centipede chain. When two stranded female Americans arrive at his luxury home-cum-hospital looking for help, his long-gestating plan swiftly moves into chilling action with a shocking force. Kidnapping a third Japanese male tourist, he begins the tissue matches, teeth removal, and buttock moulding to create his triplet creature… This seriously disturbs me more than any kind of torture/rape film I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/18 "2009-10-19T15:58:11Z")
Here is one list I’ve ran across when this type of topic came up on another board: > **[Video Game News, Reviews, and Walkthroughs - IGN](https://www.ign.com/)** > > IGN is your #1 destination for all video game news, expert reviews, and walkthroughs. I am NOT into these types of movies at all. I hate gore/sick stuff. But I did try watching the short mentioned in the list I linked, Cutting Moments. As soon as I saw one of the gross parts just begin to happen I had to turn it off. I am not cut out for this type of extreme, straight-to-video, underground copy cause it’s banned type stuff. So I can’t comment on if these are really sick or not but I do remember a particular thread on Fark and a LOT of the people were mentioning the movies in my link, so I guess it’s a decent list. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/19 "2009-10-19T17:40:23Z")
> [@Maiira](#): > > Haven’t watched it myself, but I hear _I Spit On Your Grave_ is pretty soul-destroying. It’s about a woman who’s gang-raped by five men and gets bloody revenge on each of them. I’ve seen this (or at least large parts of it, I have tried to put it out of my mind). The mildest revenge is where she chases down one or two of the rapists in a lake, with her in a motor boat, and chops them up with the rotor. There is one scene in there that no man should ever watch. It does for bathtubs what Psycho did for showers. Sometimes late at night I flash back on that scene, and cringe doesn’t begin to cover it. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/20 "2009-10-19T17:48:07Z")
_I Spit on Your Grave_ is a great film. What makes it hard for some people to watch is that it’s a woman exacting violent revenge on a bunch of male rapists. This goes so counter to what we expect from a movie–the woman is supposed to be the almost willing victim, dutifully and attractively put in her place by the powerful man, then she should sit quietly sobbing and drinking herbal tea while another powerful man goes out and avenges her–that it enrages some people. It’s a pretty strong feminist statement, which is not what people go to slasher films for. One for the thread: _[Feed](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445965/)_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297.md?page=2)