# Sickest (non-porn) movie ever? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297 "2009-10-19T05:51:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/61 "2009-10-21T16:28:25Z")
Beaches… Bette Midler… 'nuf said… ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/62 "2009-10-22T18:48:18Z")
There’s always Jackass 2 in which he dresses his penis in a mouse costume and taunts a snake with it… ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/63 "2009-10-22T19:22:38Z")
Cannibal Holocaust was so earthily bad that its makers were brought up on snuff-film charges - it was thought that the on-screen murders were real. The director had to produce the stars of the movie to prove nothing had happened to them (they had been hidden away so as to heighten the mystery of the film, or something). ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/64 "2009-10-22T19:56:18Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I doubt it. My impression of Lynch is that he works purely on instinct, and doesn’t himself understand most of the images he puts up on the screen. So while I don’t he’d cop to as cynical an agenda as “weird for weird’s sake,” I don’t think he’d describe his stuff as “just showing the world as it is” either. > > He started out as an abstract painter. Very id. More emotional than intellectual. I read _Lynch on Lynch_ years ago, which is a book of compiled interviews. His favorite word for the feeling he was aiming for in his films was “uncanny”. First three movies that came to my mind were: \*Kids, Gummo, \*and _Man Bites Dog_. Don’t watch _Gummo_. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/65 "2009-10-22T20:40:47Z")
> [@Gesturing\_Mildly](#): > > It’s not that bad, really. I mean, it’s pretty weird in that it shows real sideshow freaks - midgets, people with limbs missing, pinheads, etc. But it’s not terribly graphic, and has a somewhat redeeming message. Unless you happen to encouter the original ending. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/66 "2009-10-22T20:57:42Z")
[Toxic Avenger.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_Avenger) ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/67 "2009-10-22T21:04:09Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Divine eats dog shit. Like real dog shit not a prop. > > Though the entire move was pretty gross. Oh god. They showed that movie in public, in the large central room of the Campus Centre at Waterloo, when I was in first year. Goung to the pub. Arcade? Payphone? Come around the corner and be confronted by Divine. I watched part of the movie, but left at the scene where she’s in the crib covered in raw eggs. You’re telling me it got _worse?_ _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/68 "2009-10-22T22:26:54Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > Cannibal Holocaust was so earthily bad that its makers were brought up on snuff-film charges - it was thought that the on-screen murders were real. The director had to produce the stars of the movie to prove nothing had happened to them (they had been hidden away so as to heighten the mystery of the film, or something). I think it’s pretty well understood at this point that that was a publicity stunt. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/69 "2009-10-23T01:11:37Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > As a horror/gore aficionado, I can say that thus far, **August Underground’s Mordum** is the sickest movie I’ve ever seen. It’s barely even a movie, more of an endurance test for the staunchest gore fans. > […] > A few weeks ago, I picked up a movie called **Philosophy of a Knife** , which is supposedly even harsher than **Mordum** ; it’s about the Japanese occupation of Nanking, and is about four hours long, so I haven’t had time to watch it yet. I’ll report back. I put it to you that your taste in films is the equivalent of a hot sauce fetish - that it releases endorphins that can only be supplied consistently by more, hotter, and more outrageous. Another dimension the two passions share is that they both value “endurance,” assigning man-points to the “survivor” who can take the most. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/70 "2009-10-23T01:26:30Z")
Hey- those of you out there w/ a penchant for these sorts of things- please watch _Header_, and let me know what you think. My group of friends got this movie for a bad movie night and they all immediately shouted me down and voted to stop watching the film w/in the first 20 mins or so right when the antagonist’s grandpappy from West Virginia started to explain just what a Header was while they held the victim down… So I have no idea where the movie was going to go in the next hour or so, and would love for someone else to fill me in on what happens AFTER the first victim pretty much. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/71 "2009-10-23T02:13:57Z")
It looks like “I Spit on Your Grave” is being [re-made](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242432/) by a director who has been busy doing SciFi, excuse me _SyFy_…:rolleyes:, movies. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/72 "2009-10-23T02:43:23Z")
I recently watched [Antichrist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870984/)and was not pleased. It was disturbing with no point to it, as far as I could see. (Although certain parts of it worked.) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/73 "2009-10-23T04:03:43Z")
> [@HazelNutCoffee](#): > > I recently watched [Antichrist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870984/)and was not pleased. It was disturbing with no point to it, as far as I could see. (Although certain parts of it worked.) The point is there, but Von Trier is not interested in leaving you unmarked. So it’s valid to be “not pleased.” Pretty harrowing though. Read Ebert’s take on it, if you’re curious; he’s kind of obsessed with it and has written at least three pieces about it. The Village Voice review is interesting as well. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/74 "2009-10-23T04:37:33Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > I put it to you that your taste in films is the equivalent of a hot sauce fetish - that it releases endorphins that can only be supplied consistently by more, hotter, and more outrageous. > > Another dimension the two passions share is that they both value “endurance,” assigning man-points to the “survivor” who can take the most. I usually think of it in roller coaster terms, but yeah, similar. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/75 "2009-10-23T05:00:20Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > The point is there, but Von Trier is not interested in leaving you unmarked. So it’s valid to be “not pleased.” > > Pretty harrowing though. Read Ebert’s take on it, if you’re curious; he’s kind of obsessed with it and has written at least three pieces about it. The Village Voice review is interesting as well. I’m sure he had a point in mind while making it. By the end I didn’t care to try and figure out what it was. And after the scene with the “chaos reigns” fox I couldn’t take any of it seriously anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/76 "2009-10-23T06:10:31Z")
I recently saw an ad for Von Trier’s Antichrist on TV (!) and was intrigued because it looked visually stunning and freaky as hell. However, after reading **lissener** ’s previous thread (which, annoyingly, doesn’t come up in searches because he titled it “-Antichrist-” with dashes) and Ebert’s blogs about it, I decided I’d better read the [IMDB synopsis](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870984/synopsis) first before I ran out and watched it. All I can say is “Oh, HELL no.” Several new things were added to my “I won’t watch a movie that has the plot X” list. ---
**Author:** ![Gesturing\_Mildly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@Gesturing\_Mildly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gesturing_Mildly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/77 "2009-10-23T14:29:39Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Unless you happen to encouter the original ending. True. It was my understanding that this was lost to history, though. Is that not true? I’d love to see it. ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/78 "2009-10-23T14:49:35Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Oh god. > > They showed that movie in public, in the large central room of the Campus Centre at Waterloo, when I was in first year. Goung to the pub. Arcade? Payphone? Come around the corner and be confronted by Divine. I watched part of the movie, but left at the scene where she’s in the crib covered in raw eggs. > > You’re telling me it got _worse?_ > > _shudder_ The woman in the crib with the eggs was Edith Massey, not Divine. Massey later sang for a punk band called Edie and the Eggs, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/79 "2009-10-26T19:48:38Z")
> [@Gesturing\_Mildly](#): > > It was my understanding that this was lost to history, though. Far as everyone knows, unless it turns up in a vault somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297/80 "2009-10-26T21:13:34Z")
May I nominate [Andy Warhol’s Frankenstein](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071508/) I’ve heard that [Santa Sangre](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098253/) is quite disturbing also, but never saw it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sickest-non-porn-movie-ever/514297.md?page=5)