# Sidequels **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 31, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489 "2014-07-31T14:43:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/1 "2014-07-31T14:43:42Z")
Sidequel: a spinoff or sequel that exists in the same universe and chronological frame of time as its predecessor work. This is easy with TV; spinoffs have been a common practice since nearly the invention of the medium. Concurrent main/spinoff TV series are less common, but there are many examples. Occurrences in film are rare; I could only come up with one (the first example below). Examples: _The Bourne Legacy_ occurs concurrently with the events in _The Bourne Ultimatum_. _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ occurs concurrently with the Marvel films, a situation that is almost certainly unique. Others? ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/2 "2014-07-31T15:04:49Z")
I am pretty sure there was a direct to video Lion King movie that takes place chronologically within the original movie (a side adventure we never saw). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/3 "2014-07-31T15:07:33Z")
They released a “sidequel” direct-to-video movie using characters from the **Get Smart** movie: > [@](#): > > A corresponding film, Get Smart’s Bruce and Lloyd: Out of Control (featuring Oka, Torrence, Miller, Warburton, Terry Crews and a cameo by Hathaway), was released on DVD on July 1, 2008,[2] 11 days after the feature film’s theatrical release.[3][4] The film tells a standalone story that takes place concurrently with the events within the film (including a scene in which Agent 99 calls Lloyd and angrily berates him for the poor quality of her gadgets compared to Max’s; that scene takes place immediately after Max accidentally renders himself unconscious with a blowgun during a stakeout in the main film). > **[Get Smart (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Smart_(film))** > > Get Smart is a 2008 American spy action comedy film directed by Peter Segal, written by Tom J. Astle and Matt Ember and produced by Leonard B. Stern, who was also the producer of the original series. The film is based on Mel Brooks and Buck Henry's television series of the same name. > The film stars Steve Carell, Anne Hathaway, Dwayne Johnson, and Alan Arkin, with Terence Stamp and James Caan in supporting roles. Bernie Kopell, who played Siegfried in the original series, also appeared in the f... I can’t imagine that it did very well. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/4 "2014-07-31T15:11:15Z")
_300_ and _300: Rise of an Empire_ overlap. That is, the timeline of the sequel starts before the first movie and ends well after it. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/5 "2014-07-31T15:23:01Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I am pretty sure there was a direct to video Lion King movie that takes place chronologically within the original movie (a side adventure we never saw). [Lion King 1 1/2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_King_1_1/2) > [@](#): > > Reviewers suggested that it was somewhat influenced by Tom Stoppard’s play _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead_, in which the titular characters are seen in every major event of _Hamlet_. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/6 "2014-07-31T15:50:15Z")
The Avengers prequels all happen at about the same time, with the exception of Iron Man and Iron Man 2. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/7 "2014-07-31T16:19:17Z")
In relation to the movie “Soldier” with Kurt Russell was the first time I heard the term “sidequel.” The definition there was “same universe but not having to do with the original.” “Soldier” takes place in the same universe as “Blade Runner” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/8 "2014-07-31T16:39:57Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > In relation to the movie “Soldier” with Kurt Russell was the first time I heard the term “sidequel.” The definition there was “same universe but not having to do with the original.” > > “Soldier” takes place in the same universe as “Blade Runner” How are they related? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/9 "2014-07-31T16:55:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > How are they related? From [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_(1998_American_film)#Blade_Runner): > [@](#): > > Soldier was written by David Peoples, who co-wrote the script for _Blade Runner_. By his own admission, he considers Soldier to be a “sidequel”/spiritual successor to _Blade Runner_.[4] It also obliquely references various elements of stories written by Philip K. Dick (who wrote the novel “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?”, on which _Blade Runner_ is based), or film adaptations thereof. A “Spinner” vehicle from _Blade Runner_ can be seen in the wreckage on a junk planet that features in the film.[5] > > There are also several dialogue references to events such as “Tannhauser Gate” from _Blade Runner_. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/10 "2014-07-31T18:01:20Z")
My favorite is a sidequel from the movie The Incredibles. In which Elastigirl makes a call to her babysitter from her plane just before it’s hit by missiles. We get to see the phone call from the babysitter’s side of it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/11 "2014-07-31T18:57:22Z")
Here is one from records. In the second Firesign Theatre album, Nick Danger receives a wrong number call trying to order pizza - pizza to go with no anchovies. The call is placed by a hungry George Tirebiter in the third album. Though it is a bit odd since Nick Danger runs on December 7, 1941 and the other is after Korea. But it might count. I’ve got a TV example starring Harry Morgan before Dragnet - though it might be he is involved with 2, since Adam 12 is at the same time as Dragnet, while After-MASH is after MASH and so doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/12 "2014-07-31T19:11:53Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > From [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_(1998_American_film)#Blade_Runner): Cool. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/13 "2014-07-31T20:05:31Z")
Disney is going to be generating a bunch of Star Wars “sidequels” beyond the Abrams Episode 7, 8, 9 films. Plus there’s the “Rebels” animated series. They want that money Marvel is getting for themselves! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/14 "2014-07-31T20:07:21Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > Disney is going to be generating a bunch of Star Wars “sidequels” beyond the Abrams Episode 7, 8, 9 films. Plus there’s the “Rebels” animated series. They want that money Marvel is getting for themselves! Disney already has the money that Marvel is getting - they bought the company back in 2009. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/15 "2014-07-31T23:35:14Z")
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/16 "2014-07-31T23:50:43Z")
I’ve seen it in books a few times. C. S. Lewis’ _A Horse and his Boy_ takes place entirely within the time span of _The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe_. And David Weber’s Honor Harrington series has spawned a few spin-off series that are better than the originals. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/17 "2014-07-31T23:51:56Z")
In the movie **Gravity** , Sandra Bullock’s character is trying to communicate with somebody, anybody, on Earth, and she reaches an Inuit speaker. Neither speaks the other’s language. Jonas Cuaron, Alfonso’s son, created the short film **[Aningaaq](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gravity-spinoff-watch-side-sandra-657919)**, from the Inuit guy’s point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/18 "2014-08-01T00:53:45Z")
_The Wind Done Gone_ by Alice Randall is a parody of _Gone With The Wind_. Randall’s novel parallels Mitchell’s book but does it from the viewpoint of a slave who is Scarlett’s half-sister. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/19 "2014-08-01T00:55:16Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I am pretty sure there was a direct to video Lion King movie that takes place chronologically within the original movie (a side adventure we never saw). Lion King 1 1/2. Very cute. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489/20 "2014-08-01T01:34:23Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? Already mentioned. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sidequels/694489.md?page=2)