# \<sigh\> Here's why us Yoopers get a little testy at times

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 30, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130 "2008-05-30T13:00:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/21 "2008-05-30T20:53:25Z")

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I’m confused by the OP. The map on the page linked clearly has the UP shown on the upper left corner.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/22 "2008-05-30T20:57:19Z")

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[QUOTE=MikeG]  
I’m confused by the OP. The map on the page linked clearly has the UP shown on the upper left corner.  
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It does now. I’m reasonably certain it didn’t show it before.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/23 "2008-05-30T20:59:03Z")

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HA they ADDED it!

That’s incredibly funny.

I wonder if a bunch of people wrote in to complain, because I know I did. Maybe it was just MY email. Yup, that’s what I’m going to believe. 😃

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**Author:** ![onedayfishsale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onedayfishsale/32/4398_2.png) [@onedayfishsale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/onedayfishsale)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/24 "2008-05-30T21:12:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Athena]  
HA they ADDED it!  
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Crap, I don’t think I grabbed a copy of the original. Anyway, I did track down [a few more for UPGAP](http://www.feep.org/gallery/upgap).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/25 "2008-05-30T21:22:06Z")

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[QUOTE=One Day Fish Sale]  
Crap, I don’t think I grabbed a copy of the original. Anyway, I did track down [a few more for UPGAP](http://www.feep.org/gallery/upgap).  
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[hijack] I heart your user name. [/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/26 "2008-05-30T21:23:46Z")

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[QUOTE=One Day Fish Sale]  
Crap, I don’t think I grabbed a copy of the original. Anyway, I did track down [a few more for UPGAP](http://www.feep.org/gallery/upgap).  
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I found a copy in my cache. It’s on its way to you.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/27 "2008-05-30T21:49:03Z")

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[QUOTE=One Day Fish Sale]  
Ooh, another one for [my collection](http://www.feep.org/gallery/upgap).  
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Genius.

I love the ones where they just sort of mashed Michigan into an unrecognizable lump. It’s like they just totally made up that part of the country as they went along.

Some of them also went to the trouble of outlining the UP, but not identifying it as Michigan. 😕

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/28 "2008-05-30T22:23:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Athena]  
Notice anything odd about the map of Michigan on the illustration that accompanies [this article?](http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/05/30/dnc_meeting/)

I’m off to send in my application for Canadian citizenship. Maybe they’ll remember we exist. :dubious:  
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_clicks through_

Oh, MI is missing the fragmented bit at the top. _doublechecks_ that’s weird, the original version that had the OP teed off still shows on my machine.

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**Author:** ![onedayfishsale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onedayfishsale/32/4398_2.png) [@onedayfishsale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/onedayfishsale)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/29 "2008-05-30T22:24:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Athena]  
I found a copy in my cache. It’s on its way to you.  
[/QUOTE]

Excellent, thanks. Added to [the collection](http://www.feep.org/gallery/upgap) (and promoted to first place 🙂 ).

[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
[hijack] I heart your user name. [/hijack]  
[/QUOTE]

Ha, thanks, likewise. Never caught on IRL, somehow.

[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]  
I love the ones where they just sort of mashed Michigan into an unrecognizable lump. It’s like they just totally made up that part of the country as they went along.  
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I can sort of understand the ones that somewhat follow the US/Canada border through the Great Lakes. Sort of. But c’mon, it’s not that hard to do the right thing. And you’d think it would occur to the author to, you know, look at a real map for reference.

Unless Athena and I just haven’t been introduced to the Yooper faction that’s _intentionally_ obfuscating our peninsula’s true location…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/30 "2008-05-31T04:30:46Z")

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You have my sympathy. As a New Yorker who doesn’t live in New York City, I know what it feels like to live in a forgotten land.

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**Author:** ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/31 "2008-05-31T05:20:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
You have my sympathy. As a New Yorker who doesn’t live in New York City, I know what it feels like to live in a forgotten land.  
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Huh? I thought the entire state was just one big metropolis. 😃

At least you didn’t grow up in Montana. Some people think its all dirt roads and saloons, and we ride horses around town instead of driving cars. They are surprised to find out we actually have indoor plumbing!

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**Author:** ![phil417](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@phil417](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phil417)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/32 "2008-06-01T02:33:15Z")

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**Athena** , I live in Flint, MI. A local hero (& columnist for our paper, the _Flint Journal_) , Andrew “Andy” Heller, keeps us apprised of goings-on in the “yoop”. According to the boy, you’re currently going from slush season to black fly season. Has anyone suggested you declare the black flies Canadian? They’ll have to move up north & will leave you in peace. (Oh, wait, Andy Heller suggested that a few years back.)

I have to love the UP…how else can I travel a few hours up an interstate & end up in Paradise (MI)?

Love, Phil

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/33 "2008-06-01T02:43:53Z")

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Oh slush season is long over. The snow’s been gone for a month at least. And the flies haven’t started yet, though the reason is that’s it still too cold. A couple days ago it was sunny & warm, and the noseeums came out at night. I’m not sure what they’re really called, but they’re sorta tiny black fly-like insects that put some sort of numbing thing into you when they bite, then sit and suck your blood. An hour later, you find a big dried pool of blood wherever they were.

Yup, the UP’s just great!

And just as a public service announcement - we have one month of bugs, June. Once June is over, summer in the UP is really paradise.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/34 "2008-06-01T03:04:13Z")

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As an (adopted) New Mexican, I [feel your pain](http://www.nmmagazine.com/50missing.php).

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-heres-why-us-yoopers-get-a-little-testy-at-times/451130/35 "2008-06-02T01:06:18Z")

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They still haven’t added the Keys.

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