# Sigh...I guess I joined the gun culture...and it pisses me off **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973 "2022-10-29T18:14:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/21 "2022-10-29T19:35:10Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Best thing to do to avoid the scenario of fighting in a civil war is the opposite of what you are doing. Actively work to cool the polarization. > > Unfortunately, messages that exploit emotional thinking resonate far better than analytical messages. The sky just turned green, geese are flying backwards, I hear a hen laid the same egg twice. And I agree with what I quoted from Octoputz. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/22 "2022-10-29T19:38:00Z")
> [@BlinkingDuck](#): > > So…for the Pit. > > FUCK YOU REPUBLICANS! Fuck you you god damned nutjobs. I would have been content to live my whole life without the possibility of shooting, or heaven forbid, killing someone. This is something I really, really don’t want to do. > > FUCK YOU for making me feel like this is something I needed to do. I grew up in a house with guns. Was taught young to respect them, that they’re not toys. We had rifles, shotguns, pistols. We never open carried (except out in the woods during hunting season), or even concealed carry. But then I was told I was a Nazi, a Klansman, a Murderer (of Bambi, no less!), just because I lived in a rural area and owned guns. I heard the calls for ever greater gun control, because people living somewhere else have high crime rates, revolving door justice system(s), and other people demanding door-to-door searches to confiscate private property, to round up all us redneck gun nuts and put us in prison (excuse me, “Cultural Readjustment Education Facilities” or some other Orwellian euphemism) just for existing (and killing Bambi). So…for the Pit. FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS! Fuck you you god damned nutjobs. I would have been content to live my whole life without the possibility of shooting, or heaven forbid, killing someone. This is something I really, really don’t want to do. FUCK YOU for making me feel like this is something I needed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/23 "2022-10-29T19:38:53Z")
Congratualations you found a new hobby that you enjoy. Just a couple of quick questions 1. If you were no longer able to enjoy your new found hobby would you feel a loss of your identity? 2. Do you feel that your right to enjoy of your new found hobby out weighs other peoples rights to live without fear of violence? 3. Does the enjoyment of your new hobby outweigh any other political consideration? 4. Do you fear that any regulation of your hobby will lead to its entire elimination? 5. If your hobby became illegal would you stridently break the law in order to continue it? 6. Do you fantasize about MAGAts invading your home so that you can put your new accessories to use? 7. Are you going to vote Republican in the next election? If your answer to all of these questions is no (and I’m pretty sure they are), then congratulations you are not a member of the gun culture, you just found a new activity you enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/24 "2022-10-29T19:48:17Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS! Fuck you you god damned nutjobs. I would have been content to live my whole life without the possibility of shooting, or heaven forbid, killing someone. This is something I really, really don’t want to do. > > FUCK YOU for making me feel like this is something I needed to do. Allow me to quote what you said before that: “ **I grew up in a house with guns … we had rifles, shotguns, pistols** ”. So Democrats made you get all those guns? Which you really never wanted? And you would have been content to never have a gun in your life? This is possibly the most incoherent failure of logic I have ever read. The only thing I understood from your rant is that some liberals called you names for being a gun nut. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/25 "2022-10-29T19:52:28Z")
Your inability to think beyond the end of your own nose in no way negates someone else’s position. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/26 "2022-10-29T19:52:45Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > But then I was told I was a Nazi, a Klansman, a Murderer (of Bambi, no less!), just because I lived in a rural area and owned guns. No you weren’t, and that’s not why. > [@ExTank](#): > > I heard the calls for ever greater gun control, because people living somewhere else have high crime rates, And the reason for that is because people like you won’t allow people living in a city to have any sort of gun control over just that city. > [@ExTank](#): > > and other people demanding door-to-door searches to confiscate private property, to round up all us redneck gun nuts and put us in prison (excuse me, “Cultural Readjustment Education Facilities” or some other Orwellian euphemism) just for existing (and killing Bambi). Bunch of hateful lies from a hateful liar. > [@ExTank](#): > > I would have been content to live my whole life without the possibility of shooting, or heaven forbid, killing someone. This is something I really, really don’t want to do. > > FUCK YOU for making me feel like this is something I needed to do. You feel you need to shoot and kill someone? Maybe you _shouldn’t_ have a gun. But thank you for demonstrating why rational people are feeling the need to arm themselves to protect themselves from irrational violent nutjobs like you. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/27 "2022-10-29T19:53:59Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > So Democrats made you get all those guns? Which you really never wanted? And you would have been content to never have a gun in your life? This is possibly the most incoherent failure of logic I have ever read. No, he is claiming that the Democrats are what is making him say that he feels he needs to shoot and kill people. Now that you see what kind of violence is being threatened by our fellow countrymen, you see why we feel the need to protect ourselves? ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/28 "2022-10-29T19:57:11Z")
Some fyi for you though anecdotal. When I was signing up for a gun safety course and a pistol maintenance course he mentioned that he needed to add “even more” of these classes because there has been a large increase in people who have never shot or owned a pistol before and kind of marveled that no one could teach them in their support group so they were dropping $125 a pop on these courses. When I took both courses, over half were women. The instructor even mentioned that this was odd but seemed a trend lately. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/29 "2022-10-29T19:58:06Z")
I don’t care if they’re making the Purge legal tomorrow I’m never buying a gun. BTW I’m a conservative. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/30 "2022-10-29T20:01:19Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > I don’t care if they’re making the Purge legal tomorrow I’m never buying a gun. If they make the Purge legal tomorrow, you won’t need to _buy_ one. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/31 "2022-10-29T20:01:51Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > … in no way negates someone else’s position You don’t have a “position”. What you have is an incoherent and rather menacing hateful rant. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/32 "2022-10-29T20:04:46Z")
I echo the OP and flip the script, and I’m being menacing? You are a fuckwit of the highest caliber. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/33 "2022-10-29T20:09:14Z")
Yes, you flipped the script from someone who feels as though they are threatened to someone who is doing that threatening. That’s not an echo, that’s you just being hateful and venting your violent desires. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/34 "2022-10-29T20:19:14Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > I echo the OP and flip the script, and I’m being menacing? False equivalence. Zelensky: “Ukraine needs to use all the weapons it has at its disposal to defend itself against Russian occupation of our territory” Putin: “Russia needs to use all the weapons it has at its disposal to defend itself against Ukrainian occupation of our territory.” Yes, the latter is more menacing. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/35 "2022-10-29T20:22:54Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > I echo the OP and flip the script, and I’m being menacing? I’m going to have to make the assumption that this actually has to be explained to you, using small words and simple sentences, because maybe you really are that stupid. The OP explained very clearly why threats from Republicans against him and his family put him in the position of needing a gun for protection, something he would rather not have done. By trying to “flip the script” you created an incoherent rant that made absolutely no sense. Unless you’d care to explain how Democrats forced you to own all those guns. The only possible conclusion one could draw is that you need all those guns to shoot Democrats because they called you mean names. Can’t say that I blame them. You’re clearly an idiot and very possibly a dangerous gun nut. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/36 "2022-10-29T20:25:25Z")
Remind us again who was responsible for all that violence and crime during the mostly peaceful protests? How useful were the police in preventing billions of dollars of damage to urban centers? Politically motivated violence is wrong. You can’t pick and choose which politically motivated violence you support or turn a blind eye towards. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/37 "2022-10-29T20:26:59Z")
> [@BlinkingDuck](#): > > Right…someone saying they will shoot you and your wife and daughter within an hour of being told to do so is just…someone of a different political persuasion. What odd company you keep. You need to hang out with [a better class of gun enthusiasts](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/04/liberal-gun-owner-enthusiast-second-amendment-politics-2017-215784/). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/38 "2022-10-29T20:28:22Z")
Owning a gun doesn’t make you part of gun culture IMO. It’s fetishizing guns that makes you part of it. If you own a gun and you’re responsible with it; get properly trained, lock it in a safe when not in use, don’t get drunk and shoot at random stuff, you’re not part of the “culture”. If you’re not lobbying to repeal all gun controls and donating to the NRA, you’re not part of gun culture. If you’re not voting based on a fear that the libruls are gonna come take your gun and put you in a concentration camp, you’re not part of gun culture. It’s not the simple fact of owning a gun that makes you a gun nut. You’re missing the “nut” half of the formula. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/39 "2022-10-29T20:38:41Z")
My god, you really are stupid, aren’t you? But, you do manage to contribute to the negative discourse, your hatred is on display for all to see. Do you have any words towards the poster that said that he feels the need to shoot and kill Democrats, or are you turning a blind eye towards the political violence that you agree with? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973/40 "2022-10-29T20:40:06Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > You need to hang out with [a better class of gun enthusiasts](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/04/liberal-gun-owner-enthusiast-second-amendment-politics-2017-215784/). I dunno – in the picture labeled “_Members of the Liberal Gun Club gather at the Conroe shooting range prior to their annual meeting_” it looks like one of them has been shot. Possibly over a political disagreement. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-i-guess-i-joined-the-gun-culture-and-it-pisses-me-off/973973.md?page=3)