# Sigh............Joe Biden

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378 "2009-01-22T00:32:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/41 "2009-01-22T06:41:25Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I’ve always thought Vice-Plagiarist Biden looks a lot like Jeff Dunham’s ‘angry old man’ puppet.

As long as he does not come out with someone that looks like Achmed the dead terrorist , we cool.

Declan

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/42 "2009-01-22T06:48:00Z")

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> [@lee](#):
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> Man, he really had a face like thunder for a moment!

Wow, you got all of that (your whole post) from that one little clip? I’ve now seen the clip 3 times and sure couldn’t get as much as you’ve interpreted from those few moments.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/43 "2009-01-22T06:56:28Z")

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> [@xanthous](#):
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> I also could see in his face right afterwards (yesterday), that he was heartbroken that the oath didn’t go well. He stays cool, but sometimes just a look says it all. Man, I’d hate to be his daughter and make him angry!

I swear I remember hearing somewhere that someone asked one of Obama’s daughters what happens if they get in trouble. Her response was that she gets a long, patient lecture on why that was wrong and how to avoid doing it again.

I may be making that up, but it sounds in character. That look in his face was definitely a Dad look, though – the look that says “If you’re lucky, we won’t have to discuss why you’re in trouble”.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/44 "2009-01-22T07:14:43Z")

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And then a White House staffer forgot to clean up after the Executive Dog. We will be embroiled in the Super Dooper Pooper Scoopergate.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/45 "2009-01-22T07:24:24Z")

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I think Obama handled it just right. Pretty sure Biden is on notice to stay on message and not deviate from the script. It was pretty inappropriate, especially given it was an honor for the appointees, and Obama, being a class guy, probably didn’t want to show up John Roberts.

I figure getting the elbow tap from Obama is kind of like a karate chop to the face from Chuck Norris.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/46 "2009-01-22T07:38:52Z")

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Biden looked like the idiot he is. Obama looked reserved an serious, appropriate to the moment. Good for him.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/47 "2009-01-22T07:41:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#):
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> I swear I remember hearing somewhere that someone asked one of Obama’s daughters what happens if they get in trouble. Her response was that she gets a long, patient lecture on why that was wrong and how to avoid doing it again.
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> I may be making that up, but it sounds in character. That look in his face was definitely a Dad look, though – the look that says “If you’re lucky, we won’t have to discuss why you’re in trouble”.

Yes, that was the one TV interview Obama allowed of his daughters – at Malia’s request, as a birthday present to her. An Access Hollywood reporter [sat down with the family on the Fourth of July for a chat.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25594061/) The text of the interview on that page doesn’t have that bit about discipline, and I haven’t watched the video clip on that page to see if it’s the expanded version I watched a while ago. What I recall is Malia answering the “What happens if you get in trouble” question with a reply along the lines of “He TALKS to us” (rolleyes). I had to laugh at the long-suffering way she spoke of it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/48 "2009-01-22T07:58:02Z")

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“I am not angry, just very, very disappointed…”

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/49 "2009-01-22T09:27:59Z")

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> [@lee](#):
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> Biden was being very Biden, and I love Obama’s stern but silent and immediate reaction. I am glad this happened. First, it really demonstrates that Obama does not think cheap shots at the expense of others is funny, not even when the shot is lighthearted and not even if the target is not a democrat. I think it sends the clear message that he expects better. I know that if I were in his staff, I would be mindful of that look on his face and think twice about some dig or joke I was about to say.

I agree with that. And I also think they both looked really, really frickin’ tired. Which is entirely understandable.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/50 "2009-01-22T09:30:08Z")

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Am I the only one who didn’t think it was a very big deal at all (both Biden’s comment or Obama’s look)?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/51 "2009-01-22T09:48:35Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Get back to us when he shoots someone in the face.

Do you always have to bring back Clinton? Isn’t it time to let go?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/52 "2009-01-22T09:52:26Z")

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> [@lee](#):
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> Biden was being very Biden, and I love Obama’s stern but silent and immediate reaction. I am glad this happened. First, it really demonstrates that Obama does not think cheap shots at the expense of others is funny, not even when the shot is lighthearted and not even if the target is not a democrat.

Except Nancy Reagan. She’s fair game.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/53 "2009-01-22T09:58:40Z")

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> [@lee](#):
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> Biden was being very Biden, and I love Obama’s stern but silent and immediate reaction. I am glad this happened. First, it really demonstrates that Obama does not think cheap shots at the expense of others is funny, not even when the shot is lighthearted and not even if the target is not a democrat. I think it sends the clear message that he expects better. I know that if I were in his staff, I would be mindful of that look on his face and think twice about some dig or joke I was about to say.
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> Man, he really had a face like thunder for a moment!
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> I am sure it was not staged, but it was perhaps fortunate. Justice Roberts looked a bit ridiculous at the inauguration. To me he seemed nervous before the flub. Today, he swore Obama in again, in front of witnesses, and wearing his official robes. Now, if Obama were just concerned about the oath being actually official, or political antagonists making as if it meant his presidency were not official, he could have any federal justice do the redo. But he did not. He got Chief Justice Roberts. It avoided making Roberts more of a figure of fun. And, by rebuking the Vice President for poking fun of the situation, he further made it clear that he respects Justice Roberts and will not tolerate anyone disrespecting him.

Best post.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/54 "2009-01-22T10:01:34Z")

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On the 3rd of November I was invited (obviously in a mass invite) on facebook to become part of a group called “Impeach Obama now!” or something to that effect.

Umm… the guy isn’t even president yet.  
Biden made a bland joke! Obama didn’t crack up! TAR AND FEATHER HIM!!!

And same goes to whoever gets a blowjob first after the whole deal…

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/55 "2009-01-22T10:19:10Z")

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> [@lee](#):
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> I am sure it was not staged, but it was perhaps fortunate. Justice Roberts looked a bit ridiculous at the inauguration. To me he seemed nervous before the flub. Today, he swore Obama in again, in front of witnesses, and wearing his official robes. Now, if Obama were just concerned about the oath being actually official, or political antagonists making as if it meant his presidency were not official, he could have any federal justice do the redo. But he did not. He got Chief Justice Roberts.

He summoned the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to his office to correct a mistake he made. Think about it.

It’s called showing people who’s boss.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/56 "2009-01-22T10:40:54Z")

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Seriously, what the fuck is this thread about?

I’ve watch the video, I’ve read the posts, and I still can’t see what the hell is the issue here. Is this the type of thing we’re going to talk about for rest of the Obama presidency?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/57 "2009-01-22T11:08:16Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> He summoned the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to his office to correct a mistake he made. Think about it.
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> It’s called showing people who’s boss.

The president is in no way the boss of any Supreme Court justice, they are members of separate and equal branches of govenment.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/58 "2009-01-22T11:09:59Z")

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> [@TwistofFate](#):
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> Seriously, what the fuck is this thread about?
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> I’ve watch the video, I’ve read the posts, and I still can’t see what the hell is the issue here. Is this the type of thing we’re going to talk about for rest of the Obama presidency?

I don’t know. You tell me. There is a thread going on right now about Cheney faking an injury so he wouldn’t have to stand for Obama. This presidency should not be immune from criticism. Even if it is petty. The OP wasn’t calling for blood. The OP didn’t blow things out of proportion. Biden isn’t exactly new to flubs. Unless he is kept under a rock he will have plenty. As long as there is an internet someone will point out every mistake of every politician of every party. Obama will not and should not be the exception. There were plenty of things to slam the previous president about. 90% of the shit that make its way to the Pit was petty bullshit. So yeah this is what will continue to be posted. Welcome to the internet.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/59 "2009-01-22T11:14:06Z")

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“Show who’s boss” in the “pwned” sense, not the constitutional sense. The three branches of government are designed to be in constant conflict, with each trying to exert its dominance. The President just scored a point.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-joe-biden/482378/60 "2009-01-22T11:29:07Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t know. You tell me. There is a thread going on right now about Cheney faking an injury so he wouldn’t have to stand for Obama. This presidency should not be immune from criticism. Even if it is petty.

this doesn’t even rantk as petty. There’s nothing to even criticise.

The cheney thread is as stupid as this one, I just saw this thread first.

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