# Sigh (Lekatt, again. Not much of a pit) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218 "2008-08-07T21:39:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/1 "2008-08-07T21:39:08Z")
I was looking forward to the direction [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=478441) about whether or not Evolution and Creationism are the only choices for “the beginning of life” (particularly if there was more information forthcoming about scientific rationales and research into abiogenesis). But alas, **lekatt** has poked his nose into the thread, and thus it will degenerate into Dopers attempting to teach the pig to sing in the interests of making sure that the lurkers’ ignorance is fought. Grump. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/2 "2008-08-07T22:16:44Z")
My rule for dealing with posters like \*\*lekatt \*\* is called the Typing Monkeys rule, which absolves me of the responsibility of replying to them at all. The basis of the rule is the certain knowledge that, just because you might be able to teach a monkey to bang on a keyboard, it does not necessarily follow that the product of this typing is worthy of a serious response. If more people would keep this rule in mind, posters like lekatt would go away after pissing into a vacuum for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/3 "2008-08-07T22:16:57Z")
If you’ve kept up with the thread, you’ll have learned at least one thing: evolution doesn’t have anything to do with the origins of life. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/4 "2008-08-07T22:23:51Z")
[QUOTE=SisterCoyote] But alas, **lekatt** has poked his nose into the thread, and thus it will degenerate into Dopers attempting to teach the pig to sing in the interests of making sure that the lurkers’ ignorance is fought. [/QUOTE] Not if I get there first. How do we know that life isn’t an illusion created by ghosts? 🆒 (Okay…bad joke. Sorry.) ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/5 "2008-08-07T22:29:49Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] If you’ve kept up with the thread, you’ll have learned at least one thing: evolution doesn’t have anything to do with the origins of life. [/QUOTE] Yes, but I already _knew_ that! And, frankly, I am repeatedly baffled about how other people don’t know, but then I remember that I am an overeducated white woman and STFU. ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/6 "2008-08-07T22:32:05Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Not if I get there first. How do we know that life isn’t an illusion created by ghosts? 🆒 (Okay…bad joke. Sorry.) [/QUOTE] I think they’re already covering that over there - I know solipsism has come up - but I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/7 "2008-08-07T22:34:18Z")
Last I checked, he hadn’t brought up NDEs yet. For **lekatt** , this is a stellar performance. Of course he’s willfully ignorant, but than Og for small favors. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/8 "2008-08-07T23:31:35Z")
I think **lekatt** is absolute proof AGAINST ID. How can you call THAT “intelligent” design? (How many debates has he ruined and/or hijacked now?) ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/9 "2008-08-07T23:39:55Z")
I no longer address Lekatt, and usually ignore him the way I’d ignore a dog eating its own vomit behind a Dumpster, but the SDMB will be a little more pleasant once he’s finally banned. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/10 "2008-08-07T23:45:34Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] I no longer address Lekatt, and usually ignore him the way I’d ignore a dog eating its own vomit behind a Dumpster, but the SDMB will be a little more pleasant once he’s finally banned. [/QUOTE] Why yes, clearly he’s going to be a flash in the pan. He’s only lasted this brief while because the mods (like **tomndebb** ) haven’t noticed him yet, and so haven’t had the opportunity to take him to task for his frequent and flagrant rule violations. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/11 "2008-08-08T00:18:24Z")
As much as I dislike the guy (I feel the need to point out for his method of argument, not his beliefs), I don’t think he’s done anything bannable. Unless you think he’s making it all up, in which case bravo to him for being such a believable troll. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/12 "2008-08-08T00:20:03Z")
I’m reminded of the adage: _If you add a teaspoon of wine to a barrel of sewage, you still have sewage. Add a teaspoon of sewage to a barrel of wine, and…you have sewage._ **lekatt** ’s posts are sewage of the highest (lowest?) order. As long as this is the pit: he’s the argumentative equivalent of a large, smeary dingleberry – no matter how much toilet paper you use, you’ll still end up with an indelible skid-mark in your skivvies. The only remedy is a thorough cleansing – wash your hands (and other body parts) of the offending substance. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/13 "2008-08-08T01:08:39Z")
I just posted to the thread on my own hobby-horse, which might bring the discussion back around. **lekatt** has a serious point; science is not immune to the lure of dogma. Read **lobohan’s** post #69 in that thread; if that is most people’s understanding of evolution, is there really any wonder that some people just don’t buy into it? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/14 "2008-08-08T01:18:05Z")
[QUOTE=j666] **lekatt** has a serious point; science is not immune to the lure of dogma. [/QUOTE] That is not lekatt’s point. lekatt’s point is that all you have to do to “win” an argument is to refuse to accept the basic established facts that are relevant to the argument, and to pretend that any group of such facts is a “theory” and can simply be rejected by force of will, factuality be damned. His claim that science is the same as religion is only true for people like him, who choose to treat them the same. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/15 "2008-08-08T01:24:06Z")
I was thinking about pitting you people for humouring him. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/16 "2008-08-08T01:45:29Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I was thinking about pitting you people for humouring him. [/QUOTE] I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing. He’s not going to change. He’s not going to listen. He’s just going to re-type the same things he always types. When you see his posts don’t respond. At all. It amazes me that some long-time members haven’t figured this out yet. **Lekatt** doesn’t hijack threads. The people who respond to him hijack threads. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/17 "2008-08-08T02:39:24Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] I think **lekatt** is absolute proof AGAINST ID. How can you call THAT “intelligent” design? [/QUOTE] Maybe he is God’s monkeywrench? “Uh-oh, the atheists are on the verge of convincing one of my followers. Looks like it’s time to throw the Lekatt amongst the pidgeons.” ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/18 "2008-08-08T03:50:28Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] As much as I dislike the guy (I feel the need to point out for his method of argument, not his beliefs), I don’t think he’s done anything bannable. Unless you think he’s making it all up, in which case bravo to him for being such a believable troll. [/QUOTE] He is not a troll. He is a true believer. As was pointed out to me a while ago lekatt is an internet institution. This is by far not the only place he posts. He is everywhere. [Here](http://www.aleroy.com/) is his website if you are interested. I can’t get past the music. IIRC he doesn’t leave GD and never does the Pit so this won’t ever get to him. He is too busy posting on dozens of MBs. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/19 "2008-08-08T04:14:19Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] If you’ve kept up with the thread, you’ll have learned at least one thing: evolution doesn’t have anything to do with the origins of life. [/QUOTE] Just for the record, I know that. What I don’t know, is what IS the most commonly accepted scientific explanation for the origin of life? Is it as simple as “DNA formed randomly via naturally occurring chemical reactions?” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218/20 "2008-08-08T04:21:59Z")
What is “true” about asking for answers, ignoring the answers given, then re-asking over and over and over again as if he were asking them for the first time? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-lekatt-again-not-much-of-a-pit/459218.md?page=2)