# Sigh, Marley?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [May 7, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745 "2013-05-07T22:05:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/1 "2013-05-07T22:05:22Z")

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So a poster made [a sexual comment about me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16268296&postcount=608), that alleged I was turned on by something. Which, by the way, is a violation of the rules y’all just told us you’re enforcing.

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> Here, then, are the guidelines we will use when determining whether a post with sexual references needs review and might be subject to moderation:
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> 1. Is it directed at another poster on this board?
> 2. Is it a sexual comment in a thread with a non-sexual topic?

Was it directed at me? Yes.  
Was it a comment about my sexuality in a thread about moderation, that had nothing to do with what turns or doesn’t turn me on? Yes.  
[Who drew a Warning?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16268318&postcount=612) Me, when I pointed out that attempting to ascribe emotions to other people was a failing strategy.

If you can’t even enforce the rules in the thread that’s debuting them, pr’aps y’all need to go back to the drawing board.

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### Author: ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/2 "2013-05-07T22:07:40Z")

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Did you report it? You have to realize that the mods are not all-seeing. They are not obsessively following every thread but instead rely on reports from the rest of us.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/3 "2013-05-07T22:09:59Z")

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I didn’t report it, but it was my direct response to his post that Marley moderated.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/4 "2013-05-07T22:13:08Z")

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Fair enough, warnings for both of you. Of course “she started it!” isn’t an acceptable defense for adults, and you should know that. _Sigh._

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/5 "2013-05-07T22:16:51Z")

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Correct, nor was I saying I didn’t deserve a Warning _because_ “he did it first!”  
I _don’t_ deserve a Warning because, after someone trying to tell me what turns me on, telling them that they can’t ascribe emotions to other people, is a perfectly reasonable response.

But this does highlight the issue. Someone championing the new rules breaks them, in the thread authored to debut those rules, and you ignored that post and instead focused on someone who said in response that you couldn’t ascribe emotions to other people.

Ah well.

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### Author: ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/6 "2013-05-07T22:21:04Z")

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Sigh, here we go again.

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### Author: ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/7 "2013-05-07T22:22:40Z")

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Use the ignore list.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/8 "2013-05-07T22:26:14Z")

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Oh, I don’t have a problem with his comments and I didn’t Report his post because I don’t support the new rules. But they do serve as a great object lesson as to what’s fucked with this policy, when an admin doesn’t even notice a rules violation of the rules that the thread was started to point out.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/9 "2013-05-07T22:27:37Z")

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You know what - you’re right. **colander** said you were making an argument because the protestor turns you on, and you criticized her midreading abilities for that reason. You didn’t need to respond to that, but the fault was with **colander** ’s post and you didn’t make the discussion any more personal than she did. I’ll reverse the warning.

> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Sigh, here we go again.

No, here we don’t go again. This isn’t going to be another everything under the Sun about sexism thread, it’s about this one warning (which I’ve now reversed). To that end you may spare us the “let’s everybody calm down” mantra. You may have noticed that didn’t work.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/10 "2013-05-07T22:29:57Z")

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Thank you Marley, shows character and grace. I appreciate your willingness to re-examine the situation. I still don’t agree that the rule under which Colander was Warned should exist, and if I had my druthers I’d vote to get that changed, but yadda yadda, I hear and obey, yadda yadda.

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### Author: ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/11 "2013-05-07T22:33:44Z")

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Wait, I thought **colander** was a guy?

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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/12 "2013-05-07T22:40:31Z")

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Maybe we should all sigh a few times and let this die down for a while.

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### Author: ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/13 "2013-05-07T22:43:39Z")

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**MODERATOR NOTE;** Let me also remind everyone that this is not the Pit.

There is another forum for spleen venting and bile flinging and etc. It’s not About This Message Board.

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### Author: ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/14 "2013-05-07T22:54:36Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You know what - you’re right. **colander** said you were making an argument because the protestor turns you on, and you criticized her midreading abilities for that reason. You didn’t need to respond to that, but the fault was with **colander** ’s post and you didn’t make the discussion any more personal than she did. I’ll reverse the warning.

That’s good modding.

eta: I know you don’t need my approval, but I feel compelled to mention it in light of my previous criticism of other mod actions.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/15 "2013-05-07T22:57:49Z")

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Hip! Hip! Hooray!

I love it when everyone leaves a thread somewhere in the spectrum of moderately pleased to mostly assuaged.

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### Author: ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/16 "2013-05-07T22:59:01Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> There is another forum for spleen venting and bile flinging and etc. It’s not About This Message Board.

No spleen to vent here. Good call, classy move.

ETA: Bile flinging? Bleech. 😉

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### Author: ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/17 "2013-05-07T23:08:51Z")

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_No wagons were circled in the making of this decision._

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### Author: ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/18 "2013-05-07T23:12:04Z")

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Never mind.

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### Author: ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/19 "2013-05-07T23:19:25Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> _No wagons were circled in the making of this decision._

It’s no fair!!! Now forever more when someone accuses the mods of circling the wagons they will have this thread on bookmark. 😛 😉 😃

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### Author: ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-marley/657745/20 "2013-05-07T23:24:14Z")

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:sigh: I can’t stop thinking of Marley. Wondering where he could be; who he is with; what is he thinking; is he thinking of me; and whether he’ll ever return someday.

Wouldn’t the problem be with the quoting?

The rest of it I’d need a team of lawyers to untangle, and then retangle, and then submit a motion for a change of venue. Perhaps the south of France, but no time soon, what with the summer heat almost upon us.

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