# Sign up here for a game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643 "2009-04-01T21:24:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/161 "2009-04-04T04:50:58Z")

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NAF, your first guess in post 149 is the closest, but that’s not saying much. : p

FCOD and a few others who guessed: Way off.

I notice you all STILL keep on putting the SAME EXACT GUY in the same exact wrong place (or around the same wrong place).

Every time, almost. It’s the same guy. Either in the same wrong place or around the same wrong place.

It’s hard not to be able to say more but I don’t want to help anyone or give too many clues.

I like how you’re talking about Paul’s part and each other’s parts a bit now. That may help.

Okay, I’ll give you all a little something:

MOST of you are getting the first two (and sometimes first three) people right.

Some of you have gotten the first four right at times but not very often.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/162 "2009-04-06T07:17:14Z")

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Does nobody care anymore? : p

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**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/163 "2009-04-06T11:28:08Z")

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I am not lying. Or am I? \<twirls mustache and grind evilly\>

Nah. I’m not.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/164 "2009-04-06T12:41:20Z")

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It’s hard to keep interest when you feel like there are only 2 other players 😛

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/165 "2009-04-06T19:09:28Z")

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I don’t have any more leverage and it has devolved into a guessing game and keeping track of which orders have already been guessed.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/166 "2009-04-06T19:49:24Z")

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I am still interested, but like Cowman said, it’s not so much fun when only a few of us are really playing.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/167 "2009-04-08T17:48:46Z")

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I think it’s dead, **Idle** ☹

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/168 "2009-04-08T18:50:57Z")

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boooo

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/169 "2009-04-08T20:58:58Z")

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I think the problem is the game setup pre-supposes a slow but steady march towards sufficient knowledge to find the answer. The problem is lack of participation shuts down the information transfer. Furthermore, there is no incentive to tell the truth, which shuts down information transfer entirely. If only one player lied, then maybe by iteration one could come up with the answer, but if 2 lied then finding the correct answer by brute force is not plausible. More than that, and well, no answer is forthcoming.  
From a game theory point of view, there is no reason to tell the truth. Benefits can be had from lying, and telling the truth only helps your competitors. Plus, no one could even prove that you were lying.  
Some mechanism for increasing knowledge as time passes is required to keep the game moving.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/170 "2009-04-08T22:09:39Z")

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As well as a mechanism for encouraging participation.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/171 "2009-04-09T17:20:13Z")

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Come on just tell us the answer!

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/172 "2009-04-20T02:18:20Z")

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::Looks around to everyone who still gives half a care about this game::

Oh, Hey ChrisK…

So Uhm, Haggle? 😉

-Meeko

Who once again is glad he didn’t sign up for this game.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/173 "2009-04-20T17:46:35Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
>
> ::Looks around to everyone who still gives half a care about this game::
> 
> Oh, Hey ChrisK…
> 
> So Uhm, Haggle? 😉
> 
> -Meeko
> 
> Who once again is glad he didn’t sign up for this game.

Yes **Meeko** , Haggle signups have started!

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/174 "2009-05-15T04:53:08Z")

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BillMc  
ArchiveGuy  
Picker  
NAF  
MadTheSwine  
Cookies  
Paul  
sinjin  
Pedescribe  
FCOD  
Because, you know, I don’t think a simple bump would do anything in this game.

I mean, it IS still going on, right?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/175 "2009-05-19T16:23:05Z")

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I’m biding my time for _ **just** _ the right moment…

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/176 "2009-05-19T16:23:41Z")

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Yeah I think everyone has just about worn down…

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sign-up-here-for-a-game/491643/177 "2009-05-19T16:30:17Z")

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I have been working on this problem non stop since my last post. I don’t know what everyone else is talking about.

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