# Significance of recent Supreme’s Chevron decision? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452 "2024-06-28T18:16:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/1 "2024-06-28T18:16:41Z")
On the face of it this seems like a lousy decision, overturning a lot of precedent for little reason. Don’t organizations have expertise? Way more than most politicians? But I am not American. Could someone explain what this might mean in more detail? It has been discussed briefly here (in terms of personal feelings): > [@Do you care if Chevron is upheld?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-care-if-chevron-is-upheld/983525): > > I posted earlier on the significance of the Texas abortion pill case with respect to federal regulatory authority. The Supremes have chosen to accept [another case with potentially wider implications](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3981417-supreme-court-to-consider-overruling-chevron-doctrine/). Chevron is well established precedent regarding permissible regulatory action. I don’t want to sound alarmist, but there are few more settled principles of administrative law than Chevron. Is this on anyone else’s radar? Here is a (limited gift) link for reference: > **[Live Updates: Supreme Court Overrules Chevron Doctrine, Imperiling an Array...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/06/28/us/supreme-court-chevron?unlocked_article_code=1.3E0.5J-a.klCtA35wkPRM&smid=url-share)** > > The foundational 1984 decision required courts to defer to agencies’ reasonable interpretations of ambiguous statutes, underpinning regulations on health care, safety and the environment. Here is the “most popular” response to the NYT article at the moment. (Others have argued here these agencies are also susceptible to outside influence.): _”Great – So now instead of experts from federal agencies deciding on the scope of wetlands and school-lunch programs, or how complicated financial instruments or student loans can be regulated, or certain drugs tested, or our beef inspected, we’ll have the courts and industry lobbyists (aka cough cough Congresspeople) deciding whether we can breath clean air, drink clean water, safely take medications, trust our beef…”_ ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/2 "2024-06-28T18:18:24Z")
**Moderating** : This is going to get political. No way around it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/3 "2024-06-28T18:18:58Z")
I leave it to your usual discretion which is the best forum for this topic. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/4 "2024-06-28T18:19:43Z")
This decision sets the stage for ignorant Justices to decide matters of Science and Engineering as just one example. It is a major plank of the Conservative Republican goal started about 30 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/5 "2024-06-28T18:25:00Z")
I didn’t realize the thread I quoted contains new info. Perhaps the title of the old thread could be updated, and this thread closed or merged. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/6 "2024-06-28T18:27:10Z")
**Moderating** : We’re good here, that was a pre-decision thread, this is a post decision thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/7 "2024-06-28T18:53:52Z")
> [@Do you care if Chevron is upheld?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-care-if-chevron-is-upheld/983525/51): > > Well, that and cutting taxes on the rich. Possible duplicate thread in P&E On edit - I guess that thread was linked. Unsure of the value of 2 threads, but not sure I have much to contribute to either. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/8 "2024-06-28T19:50:47Z")
The decision is utterly catastrophic, but that won’t be clear for several years. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/9 "2024-06-28T21:39:31Z")
Seems like a continuation of the SCOTUS student-loan ruling viz. agencies cannot interpret the law. You could argue that with this SCOTUS if I should have written Democratic agencies cannot interpret law. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/10 "2024-07-01T12:23:38Z")
Small bump: There’s an excellent and thorough analysis of the decision and its potential impact here: > **[What SCOTUS just did to net neutrality, the right to repair, the environment,...](https://www.theverge.com/24188365/chevron-scotus-net-neutrality-dmca-visa-fcc-ftc-epa)** > > The end of Chevron deference will touch on everything from broadband policy to climate change. Long, but recommended for interested parties. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/significance-of-recent-supreme-s-chevron-decision/1003452/11 "2024-07-11T08:04:53Z")
Legal Eagle has weighed in on the ruling; [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xoJZu_EaDeM/maxresdefault.jpg "The Supreme Court Destroyed The Government While You Weren't Looking") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoJZu_EaDeM)