# Signs you may be in the ghetto...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 14, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911 "2013-11-14T14:56:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/181 "2013-11-21T19:03:49Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> After Hurricane Katrina, enrolling some of the displaced children in school was challenging because:
> 
> 1. Many of those kids did not know their real names; some of their parents didn’t either.
> 
> 2. Their parent(s) or guardians did not know what school the kids attended.
> 
> 3. Said adults also did not know the kids’ dates of birth or what grade they were in.
> 
> One thing I also read many times was that in the Ninth Ward, school attendance average 40% every day. That’s right, only 2 children out of 5 were in school on any given day.
> 
> :eek:

You’re going to need to provide a cite for this.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/182 "2013-11-21T19:29:12Z")

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Dog carcass in alley, tire tread on burst stomach.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/183 "2013-11-21T19:39:59Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> This entire thread is sickeningly racist. I’d expect better from the enlightened sdmb posters

Yeah, I live in Australia (officially no ghettos here) and the area I’m talking about is whiter than white.

And I’m PROUD to live right in the middle of it! 😃

Another sign: roll-down shutters on walk-in medical centres (sited next to a ‘smoking paraphernalia’ shop).

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/184 "2013-11-21T19:54:54Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Dog carcass in alley, tire tread on burst stomach.

Hurm.

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**Author:** ![Coup\_Fourre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@Coup\_Fourre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coup_Fourre)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/185 "2013-11-21T20:41:02Z")

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> [@Whammo72](#):
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> Sadly, this only re-affirms my notion that I live in the Ghetto.

I came here to post the exact same thing. ☹

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/186 "2013-11-21T21:12:32Z")

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Since every picture tells a story:

[http://listdose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/il.jpg](http://listdose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/il.jpg)

East St Louis IL is the closest Ive ever come to a third world country. As of the last I saw of it: No police (I think I heard the National Guard was trying to maintain L & O), no garbage collection, no traffic signals, stop signs either torn down or moved to random places not associated with intersections, no road maintenance. Havent been back in a while/no intention to.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/187 "2013-11-21T21:17:48Z")

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> [@megabee](#):
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> you’ve been here long enough to know better.

perfecto.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/188 "2013-11-21T21:20:53Z")

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> [@SerafinaPekala](#):
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> Since every picture tells a story:
> 
> [http://listdose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/il.jpg](http://listdose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/il.jpg)
> 
> East St Louis IL is the closest Ive ever come to a third world country. As of the last I saw of it: No police (I think I heard the National Guard was trying to maintain L & O), no garbage collection, no traffic signals, stop signs either torn down or moved to random places not associated with intersections, no road maintenance. Havent been back in a while/no intention to.

I have a hard time believing that, it says right on the city website that East St. Louis is a great place to live, work, do business, and raise a family.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/189 "2013-11-21T21:40:28Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I have a hard time believing that, it says right on the city website that East St. Louis is a great place to live, work, do business, and raise a family.

And you believe this … why?

See for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/nBwAJuiVVDk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/190 "2013-11-21T21:43:54Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I have a hard time believing that, it says right on the city website that East St. Louis is a great place to live, work, do business, and raise a family.

Yes, if you’re a guard dog.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/191 "2013-11-21T21:45:59Z")

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> [@SerafinaPekala](#):
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> And you believe this … why?
> 
> See for yourself:
> 
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwAJuiVVDk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwAJuiVVDk)

Iwas just having a bit of fun; yes, everything on that side of the river is a shithole.

For that matter, there are also great swaths on the west side of the river that are shitholes, too.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/192 "2013-11-21T21:54:17Z")

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Sorry, missed the edit cutoff, but please do read the comments after the YT vid of E StL.

““It’s the Wild West,” said Wigginton, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Illinois. With a murder rate 17 times the U.S. average, the nation’s highest according to the FBI, East St. Louis offers a glimpse at the future…”  
[http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-04/east-st-louis-cops-outgunned-as-cuts-let-killers-thrive.html](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-04/east-st-louis-cops-outgunned-as-cuts-let-killers-thrive.html)

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/193 "2013-11-21T22:40:09Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> You can tell if you’re in the ghetto simply by looking at the parking spaces.
> 
> If every space has a huge spot of oil, then you’re in the ghetto.

Hey! oh…  
😃

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/194 "2013-11-21T23:00:13Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> After Hurricane Katrina, enrolling some of the displaced children in school was challenging because:
> 
> 1. Many of those kids did not know their real names; some of their parents didn’t either.
> 
> 2. Their parent(s) or guardians did not know what school the kids attended.
> 
> 3. Said adults also did not know the kids’ dates of birth or what grade they were in.
> 
> One thing I also read many times was that in the Ninth Ward, school attendance average 40% every day. That’s right, only 2 children out of 5 were in school on any given day.
> 
> :eek:

> [@Kolga](#):
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> I’d like some citations for these statements.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Me too.

> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Do you plan on responding to the folks above who asked you for a cite?

> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> You’re going to need to provide a cite for this.

**nearwildheaven,** any chance you’re going to change your pattern of making vaguely insulting and unsupported statements by coming back and actually providing a citation for us?

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/195 "2013-11-22T12:15:41Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> **nearwildheaven,** any chance you’re going to change your pattern of making vaguely insulting and unsupported statements by coming back and actually providing a citation for us?

Evidently not, despite the fact that she’s made over half a dozen posts in other threads since these requests, so it’s not as though she hasn’t been online.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/196 "2013-11-22T13:00:34Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> **nearwildheaven,** any chance you’re going to change your pattern of making vaguely insulting and unsupported statements by coming back and actually providing a citation for us?

I think we all know the answer.

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**Author:** ![pantheon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@pantheon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantheon)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/197 "2013-11-22T13:57:58Z")

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[This.](http://i.imgur.com/nw7j1Xp.jpg)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/198 "2013-11-22T14:46:49Z")

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> [@pantheon](#):
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> [This.](http://i.imgur.com/nw7j1Xp.jpg)

Lotsa diabetics in the ghetto?

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/199 "2013-11-22T17:05:01Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> A few observations I’ve made while exploring around my new neighborhood:
> 
> You can buy alcohol in almost any store, no matter what else they sell.
> 
> A free-standing department store, where there used to be an entire mall.
> 
> You’re near a stadium.  
> …

Was gonna say you lived near Springfield until I saw the stadium reference.

Cigarettes sold individually, another bad sign.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/signs-you-may-be-in-the-ghetto/673911/200 "2013-11-22T19:07:41Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> After Hurricane Katrina, enrolling some of the displaced children in school was challenging because:
> 
> 1. Many of those kids did not know their real names; some of their parents didn’t either.
> 
> 2. Their parent(s) or guardians did not know what school the kids attended.
> 
> 3. Said adults also did not know the kids’ dates of birth or what grade they were in.
> 
> One thing I also read many times was that in the Ninth Ward, school attendance average 40% every day. That’s right, only 2 children out of 5 were in school on any given day.
> 
> :eek:

Not providing a cite for this wasn’t due to not looking; trust me on that. I’m pretty sure I did hear this on CNN. Maybe it WAS foster children, like that other poster said.

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