# silenus, you're a fucking idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968 "2006-09-24T19:06:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/21 "2006-09-24T20:11:43Z")

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How in the world did the OP manage to bring Jews into this? Exceedingly strange.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/22 "2006-09-24T20:12:09Z")

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I retract my post, I see it is post number 5. Ok, now _that_ is going a bit far. I don’t wish harm on the cast, but I’ll not watch their movies or TV series by choice.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/23 "2006-09-24T20:16:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Zabali\_Clawbane]  
Cite please? I don’t read the words “I wish the cast of Jackass would die” or anything remotely similar in **silenus** ’ single post in the linked thread from the OP.  
[/QUOTE]

Post #5 of the linked thread.

> [@silenus](#):
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> I really hope everyone involved with this dreck dies during the making of Jackass 3. The average intelligence of the planet would take a measurable tic upwards.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/24 "2006-09-24T20:17:47Z")

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[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]  
How in the world did the OP manage to bring Jews into this? Exceedingly strange.  
[/QUOTE]

I replaced “[the cast of Jackass]” with “Jews” to show how ridiculous his logic was. What are you not getting about this?

For those keeping score at home, the original post that irritated me was this:

> [@silenus](#):
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> I really hope everyone involved with this dreck dies during the making of Jackass 3.

Which was then followed up by this:

> [@silenus](#):
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> No, I haven’t seen it, nor will I. I have no need to see it to know that it is stupid, vapid and **totally without any redemption**. One does not have to see garbage to know it when the smell is everywhere around it.

At which point I felt my response was inappropriate for Cafe Society.

The bolded part especially irks me because it implies the movie is obscene.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/25 "2006-09-24T20:20:43Z")

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[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]  
How in the world did the OP manage to bring Jews into this? Exceedingly strange.  
[/QUOTE]  
I believe it’s a statement about prejudice.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/26 "2006-09-24T20:20:52Z")

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[Well… it’s evident that the movie will be huge.](http://www.jackassmovie.com/downloads/wp/wp2_s3.html)

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Pageant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Silver\_Pageant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Pageant)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/27 "2006-09-24T20:21:17Z")

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[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]  
How in the world did the OP manage to bring Jews into this? Exceedingly strange.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, you really can’t avoid it. We do own all the banks, after all.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/28 "2006-09-24T20:23:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Silver Pageant]  
Well, you really can’t avoid it. We do own all the banks, after all.  
[/QUOTE]

And control the media…

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/29 "2006-09-24T21:29:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Astroboy14]  
And control the media…  
[/QUOTE]  
and are responsible for all the wars.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Pageant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Silver\_Pageant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Pageant)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/30 "2006-09-24T21:34:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Harborwolf]  
and are responsible for all the wars.  
[/QUOTE]

Plus, our noses are so big that we block out the sun.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/31 "2006-09-24T21:38:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
You just equated someone’s dislike for a movie to racism.

Just wanted to make sure you realized that.  
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**STUFF IT, NAZI!**  
😉

(Sigh. Here’s a perfect thread for the Jewish smilie. Oh well.)

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**Author:** ![overeasy4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9bd4f/32.png) [@overeasy4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overeasy4)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/32 "2006-09-24T21:39:05Z")

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Thank you, Cisco. I care not for sports so when I see a sports thread, guess what? I avoid it. Not interested. Those who are, post there!  
Those of us who have seen the movie post there, and we don’t care that you hate it, its the end of the world as we know it, etc. Thread shitting for sure. Give silenus a fart mask!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/33 "2006-09-24T21:45:21Z")

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My apologies to **Cisco** and everybody else in that thread. I blame the antibiotics. I shall hie my Nazi ass elsewhere. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/34 "2006-09-24T21:52:44Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
My apologies to **Cisco** and everybody else in that thread. I blame the antibiotics. I shall hie my Nazi ass elsewhere. 😃  
[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I apologize too if I over-reacted. I’m done here.

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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/35 "2006-09-24T22:13:03Z")

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[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]

(Guess who’s jewish… all of the Three Stooges! - A. Sandler)

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks.

I dunno what to make of the jew comment, either, but I figured I could connect the two…  
[/QUOTE]

“David Lee Roth is half Jewish, Goldie Hawn is too  
put them together and you have one good-lookin’ Jew!”

– Adam Sandler, paraphrased.

Personally, I think posters like **silenus** miss the point of Jackass and it’s kind. Entertainment like this used to be quite common, usually as part of carvival sideshows and circuses. The guys in Jackass are working in a long tradition exemplified by the old-fashioned geek show and [Grand Guignol Theater](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_072.html). P.T. Barnum made a fortune putting stuff like this on display in the 19th century, so it’s kind of tiresome to hear people proclaiming Jackass signals the decline of Western Civilization. It shows ignorance of history.

I actually think it takes a certain craziness that is not common to do deliberately what the guys in Jackass do. I would gladly pay money to see someone crawl over a pit of alligators with a raw chicken dangling from his groin or get shot with a taser gun. At least there’s REAL risk, which is more than I can say of pro wrestling.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/36 "2006-09-24T22:18:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Lizard]  
Personally, I think posters like **silenus** miss the point of Jackass and it’s kind. Entertainment like this used to be quite common, usually as part of carvival sideshows and circuses. The guys in Jackass are working in a long tradition exemplified by the old-fashioned geek show and [Grand Guignol Theater](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_072.html). P.T. Barnum made a fortune putting stuff like this on display in the 19th century, so it’s kind of tiresome to hear people proclaiming Jackass signals the decline of Western Civilization. It shows ignorance of history.  
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Very true, and Steve-O (principle cast member) actually graduated from Ringling Brothers Clown College.

> [@](#):
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> I actually think it takes a certain craziness that is not common to do deliberately what the guys in Jackass do. I would gladly pay money to see someone crawl over a pit of alligators with a raw chicken dangling from his groin or get shot with a taser gun. At least there’s REAL risk, which is more than I can say of pro wrestling.

Errr, ummm, yes except the last part. I don’t like pro wrestling either but people have died and sustained permanent injuries doing it, even recently. See the Blue Blazer (died in the ring) and a guy named Puke (was permanantly paralyzed in the ring) - both in the WWF. I’m pretty sure that there have been others but I can’t think of any off the top of my head. I know Cactus Jack has done some pretty serious permanant damage to himself, but he’s still walking AFAIK.

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**Author:** ![overeasy4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9bd4f/32.png) [@overeasy4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overeasy4)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/37 "2006-09-25T01:46:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Lizard]  
“David Lee Roth is half Jewish, Goldie Hawn is too  
put them together and you have one good-lookin’ Jew!”

– Adam Sandler, paraphrased.

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[/QUOTE]  
Paraphrased indeed. It was Paul Newman, which really makes more sense.

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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/38 "2006-09-25T02:13:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Errr, ummm, yes except the last part. I don’t like pro wrestling either but people have died and sustained permanent injuries doing it, even recently. See the Blue Blazer (died in the ring) and a guy named Puke (was permanantly paralyzed in the ring) - both in the WWF. I’m pretty sure that there have been others but I can’t think of any off the top of my head. I know Cactus Jack has done some pretty serious permanant damage to himself, but he’s still walking AFAIK.  
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Yes, people have been injured in pro wrestling, but that was only when a stunt was performed wrong, or because of some unforseen risk that was not supposed to be there. Compare this to a tightrope walker, who is deliberately courting a clear and evident risk, or pro football players, who are hitting each other for real. Pro wrestlers use a lot of techniques that give the appearance of danger and violence, but really don’t involve either. As such, what they do is a show or a performance, not a sport. It’s all appearance, no substance. This can’t be said of the cast of Jackass–they’re in real pain.

This point may be a bit removed from what I was trying to say though. Perhaps pro wrestling was a bad example of the point I was originally trying to make.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/39 "2006-09-25T02:24:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Lizard]  
P.T. Barnum made a fortune putting stuff like this on display in the 19th century, so it’s kind of tiresome to hear people proclaiming Jackass signals the decline of Western Civilization. It shows ignorance of history.  
[/QUOTE]

Barnum was wrong…it’s every 30 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/silenus-youre-a-fucking-idiot/373968/40 "2006-09-25T02:59:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Astroboy14]  
And control the media…  
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True, true but at least we know how to make a decent [pastrami sandwich](http://www.groovycathers.com/images/nyc_pastrami.JPG).

I’m so old, when I was Bar Mitzvah the Wailing Wall was barely despondant !

😃

Cartooniverse

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